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Old 01-03-2013   #76
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Hos wanted to go OL in the draft but when the team went a different direction he didn't pout about it at all.

DeCastro was his pet, along with Konz (who he had to defend against Burmafrd because of the blood clots)

I've said it multiple times before but we really need to address the OC position for the long term. Alot of the running game problems were due to Cook not being able to execute the correct type of blocks to the play side.

Dominant OLs have very good center play especially when it's a ZBS.

OL play is only as good as the weakest link and Cook struggled to support both guys next to him. Costa is a complete question mark, and then you have Arkin who is another big question mark. Dallas needs to fix that problem for the long term. Bernadeau did OK when he played OC but he needs a full offseason to learn the position but even he is a question mark.

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I didn't pout about it either. I just told everyone we were wrong and it would keep us from winning anything this year. It has.

I also told everyone the CBs we acquired would do jack and squat for our defense. We'd be the same team. We were.

Now we're right back where we were last January. Only with less cap space and a lower draft pick. We can either get started fixing this team for real or waste another year rearranging deck chairs. If we start a real rebuild, I will praise the team for it. If we don't, I will criticize them. It's as simple as that.

The "pouting" usually comes from the people who can't handle reading certain opinions.

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Old 01-03-2013   #77
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I was serious.
Have u really given up on romo and garrett??
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Old 01-03-2013   #78
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im sure its "Just a process" ... and Garret will "keep stacking good days"
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Not sure anything will be settled by this presser. But to suggest this was somehow greatness is either a huge amount of gullibility or has an agenda that absolves Garrett because he is a pet.


This is a results oriented game.

For me I expect results, not excuses.
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Have u really given up on romo and garrett??
Read the top line of the sig. I lost a bet.
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My position is this. There were those who were railing on some that thought this was going to be a poor offensive line this season. So much so it turned acrimonious.

There are some - and I am not suggesting Hos is one of them - that likes to come back 7 months later and change their position once the chips have hit the table.
And there are some who give themselves an out to do that. It is called "I hope I am wrong."

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I ate a lot of crap here because I doubted Jerry signed any quality on the line this season.

This ain't an I told you so. But what it is is this.
If it isn't an "I told you so," why are you explaining that you "ate a lot of crap?" That sure makes it sound like you think people who disagreed with you, and you're now not saying I was one, owe you some kind of pat on the back.

Okay, pat on the back from me. You told us so. Oh wait...

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Don't now come around claiming you were telling everyone the line would suck when you were ridiculing those that were actually saying so back in August.

I am not now nor never have I claimed to have great insight into this game. I say what I think, and I think before I speak.


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I find your explanations to be credible, but I think Bernadeau was crap before he got here, and when he is one on one with a defender has shown time and again he cannot move worth a damn. Your point about the center is well made but Berny is crapola no matter if he had Stepnoski next to him.

When I am wrong I freely admit it.


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I wanted Roy Williams from Detroit. I wanted Bobby Carpenter over the other choices.

So I am not the Amazing Kreskin nor Knute Rockne.

But I own my talk. And I will point out those that are now trying to slither in and make claims they did not in August.
Which isn't me, even though you addressed me originally? I am so lost.
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It's a pretty good interview, I think. I really do like JG as a guy.

I think the points on the press conferences are insightful and true, and people would do well to recognize them. Both the supporters and naysayers of Garrett should realize that press conferences have a particular audience. I never understood why people criticize Garrett for not "calling out" players for mistakes at press conferences, and I also never understood why people laud Garrett for saying right-sounding-things in those same conferences. They serve a particular purpose, and it's a small part of the job he does reasonably well. Not only that, but understanding when, how and to whom to say certain things is a key aspect of leadership a lot of leaders don't understand.

I wasn't crazy about his answer on the softball question on whether his Xs and Os were "beyond reproach." (It's like asking a controversial figure "Are you the worst person on the planet?" to allow them an easy rebuttal opportunity - sloppy interviewing to curry favor) Calling flaws a "collective responsibility" means that he's taking vicarious responsibility for others' mistakes because of his role. It was a weak response that didn't acknowledge direct mistakes of his own - the crux of the question in the first place - and felt very defensive to me.

You always hear what you expect to hear in things like this, and I'm as guilty of that as anyone. But after listening to this, again, I can't help wishing he were 1/10th as effective at coaching Xs and Os and creating an atmosphere of discipline as he is as a leader and speaker.

There's a lot of hat on this guy and we're all just waiting for the cattle. I hope they show up at some point here but I'm losing hope.
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Read the top line of the sig. I lost a bet.
I see an Elway like ending for Romo....

But im waiting on couchscout to give his findings. Can u give him a ring and see if he'll drop a few nuggets
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i don't see why it was such a great interview. the "insight" about the vanilla interviews should have been apparent.

as for the questions asked, i couldn't care less about whether jg listens to springsteen or watches seinfeld. rather, i would like to know:

why did you suck at game management last year?

what did you do to address those flaws, and do you think you improved in that regard this season?

why couldn't the team run the ball well, consistently, throughout the season?

why didn't you do more of the things that made the hurry-up offense successful, before the last, desperate moments of games?

would you accept the hiring of an offensive coordinator, or would you quit rather than give up play-calling duties for the offense?
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I see an Elway like ending for Romo....
i'm hoping for an elway-like ending for romo...

but it isn't up to him. like elway, he needs the rights pieces to be put in place.
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i don't see why it was such a great interview. the "insight" about the vanilla interviews should have been apparent.

as for the questions asked, i couldn't care less about whether jg listens to springsteen or watches seinfeld. rather, i would like to know:

why did you suck at game management last year?

what did you do to address those flaws, and do you think you improved in that regard this season?

why couldn't the team run the ball well, consistently, throughout the season?

why didn't you do more of the things that made the hurry-up offense successful, before the last, desperate moments of games?

would you accept the hiring of an offensive coordinator, or would you quit rather than give up play-calling duties for the offense?


This was a "let's make Jason look good" softball piece, nothing more.

Wonder why Gailey or Campo or Wade never got one of those.
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Best interview he's ever given. Fisher asked good questions.

Loved the stuff about the boring press conferences.

I hope others will listen to it.
I don't know why he had to clarify his press conferences. Anyone with a brain in the 21st century should know this, but I guess that's asking for too much. I too think it was a great interview.
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This was a "let's make Jason look good" softball piece, nothing more.

Wonder why Gailey or Campo or Wade never got one of those.
Dead on. This was completely planned by the Cowboys PR team to lift the JG brand as much as possible after a disappointing season.
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I don't know why he had to clarify his press conferences. Anyone with a brain in the 21st century should know this, but I guess that's asking for too much. I too think it was a great interview.
The DFW media and fans here haven't picked up on what he is doing in his PCs. If you think the media have why do they ask him the exact same questions each week?

Q: What's the status on __________'s injury?

A: Day to day right now.
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The DFW media and fans here haven't picked up on what he is doing in his PCs. If you think the media have why do they ask him the exact same questions each week?

Q: What's the status on __________'s injury?

A: Day to day right now.
Of course they have picked up on it. What else do you want them to ask? They have a job to do.
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