Jerry's Outside Sources

[Hostile]

Originally Posted by AbeBeta

Al may have been a little whacky late in life but he was a truly revolutionary football mind.

You know, of all the NFL guys who get bashed, I think when people bash Al it bothers me most. He got old. What choice did he have there? We all get old.

The one thing Al did that I think hurt the Raiders is the thing way too many fans here want. Constant coaching changes rather than building something.

[Zordon]

lacewell, switzer, and captain morgan.

[Redball Express]

Originally Posted by Hostile

Ron Wolf, Mike Holmgren, Barry Switzer, Larry Lacewell, Bill Belichick, Bill Parcells.

These few have been reported over the last couple of years.

Jimmy Johnson surprise anyone..?

I'd like to see Johnson back in some form of a team consultant or something.

We could use the tough attitude and leadership for a change. How about the Jimster as our GM..?

That would be interesting.

RedBaLL ExPreSS

[cowboys1981]

It should be Jimmy Johnson. He won't be afraid to tell Jerry what needs to happen.

[sbark]

gotta figure Dan Reeves...he actually hired him for that reason for 3 days before Reeves quit on him

[john van brocklin]

Originally Posted by Hostile

I do know one who has. I will leave it at that though.

Jimmy ???

[SkinsandTerps]

Originally Posted by Hostile

You know, of all the NFL guys who get bashed, I think when people bash Al it bothers me most. He got old. What choice did he have there? We all get old.

The one thing Al did that I think hurt the Raiders is the thing way too many fans here want. Constant coaching changes rather than building something.

I agree. However Al should have turned over control of the draft a decade or so earlier. I do think he should have kept Gruden, and possibly even Callahan.

[newlander]

Originally Posted by Hostile

Ron Wolf, Mike Holmgren, Barry Switzer, Larry Lacewell, Bill Belichick, Bill Parcells.

These few have been reported over the last couple of years.

...maybe IF the playoffs were over Belichick would return a call....MAYBE. But they're still playing and he has NO time for Al Jr. and his senility. Barry SWITZER? The bootleggers boy? ......send in the clowns eh?

The others are solid but averge 70 years old.....not ONE guy in his prime. Is it ANY wonder this team/organization has been steered into the ice berg? The Titanic analogy is apt.

[newlander]

Originally Posted by SkinsandTerps

I agree. However Al should have turned over control of the draft a decade or so earlier. I do think he should have kept Gruden, and possibly even Callahan.

.........IF you're competent, you realize your gettting old and losing it and DELEGATE. Meaning, YOU HIRE A NEW FRONT OFFICE INCLUDING A GM AND LET THEM DO THEIR JOBS....it's what lil' dan did in DC and it's working out just fine. You should KNOW that as a foreskins fan, which leads me to believe you're either A)trolling or B)not too bright

[newlander]

Originally Posted by Hostile

You know, of all the NFL guys who get bashed, I think when people bash Al it bothers me most. He got old. What choice did he have there? We all get old.

The one thing Al did that I think hurt the Raiders is the thing way too many fans here want. Constant coaching changes rather than building something.

..........you are a great FAN but your opinion on this topic is just BRUTAL. No CRAP we all get old. WE also realize our limitations and do the right thing. JJ has never gotten that memo. He's too narcissistic and egotistical to consider what's in the BEST interest of the team AND IT'S FANS.

Year in and year out he continues to try and dig his way out of the .500 hole his team has slid into DUE TO HIS MALFEASANCE and will not and can not admit he simply can't figure it out. No shame in that for crying out loud.....look what lil' dan has done in DC...delegate, do it smartly and WIN.....and we all win.


To keep doing the same thing over and over and over to no avail is the very definition of insanity, as is the blind loyalty of fans who don't see anything wrong with the dysfunctionality of it all.

[Wood]

Originally Posted by CowboyChris

We all heard Jerry say he was gonna consult with others outside of the organization that he has the upmost confidence in, who would some of these people be?

Holmgren ? and others ?

I was thinking it was ice cream truck driver. In all seriousness, who would be motivated to dealing with Jerry? People remember the handling of Reeves situation. Suspect it will take alot of money to get someone with present credibility to enter working relationship with him.

[SkinsandTerps]

Originally Posted by newlander

.........IF you're competent, you realize your gettting old and losing it and DELEGATE. Meaning, YOU HIRE A NEW FRONT OFFICE INCLUDING A GM AND LET THEM DO THEIR JOBS....it's what lil' dan did in DC and it's working out just fine. You should KNOW that as a foreskins fan, which leads me to believe you're either A)trolling or B)not too bright

You do realize that Snyder isn't even 50 yet right ? I believe he was the youngest owner in the league when he bought the Redskins.

He is a tad ridiculous...but not even close to the level of Jerry or Al.

[DOUBLE WING]

The thought of Jerry calling Lacewell or Switzer for advice on how to fix our current situation makes me want to repeatedly slam my head against a wall.

[Wolfpack]

It is sad that a GM has to call everyone in the NFL (including his competition) to know what to do. Thats the circus here...a rudderless ship in the wind.

[trueblue1687]

Originally Posted by CowboyChris

thats easy, everyone in the organization are yes men...i doubt any of them will butt heads with him.

Without reading the rest of the posts, I thought of chiming in and say he would consult all the 'experts' posting from their mother's basement on here. They could really show him a thing or two

In all seriousness, I am leaning toward Holmgren as one of the very close sources. Jerry has done the outside consultation for a long time in varying levels...usually with regard to coaching choices...like he did with Garrett incidentally.