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iceberg · 01-05-2013

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Originally Posted by TheCount

Then state your opinion and chill. Don't jump in a thread and declare that everyone that disagrees with you is a bad poster and a whiner. What kind of nonsense is that? And like every other conversation, once you state your opinion, you better be prepared to have people disagree.

why? did someone pass a law that says you're the model example for how people have to post? i should not have to come in here with Kevlar armor on because someone will go on a rage if i disagree with them and start calling me homer, kook aide drinker, sunshine pumper and the like.

i never said people who disagree with me are bad posters either. but much like you just did to eric here, you say they're doing something then run away from the accusation cause you were wrong. did he call you a name?

no. yet all you do is scold him about lessons in civility. i can easily see you're not qualified to teach that class anyway.

like i said, many of us don't come in here to argue or get scolded, but this is pretty much what it is now, by your own words.

TheCount · 01-05-2013

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Originally Posted by iceberg

why? did someone pass a law that says you're the model example for how people have to post? i should not have to come in here with Kevlar armor on because someone will go on a rage if i disagree with them and start calling me homer, kook aide drinker, sunshine pumper and the like.

You seem a little confused. I just said it's rude to come into a thread and call other people names (be it sunshine pumper/whiner) for stating their opinion and then you basically said the exact same thing.

I never said I was a model of anything either, I speak my mind and that's all. I don't appreciate being called a bad poster because I am critical of some aspect of the team, especially since I have never been one of those that finds fault with everything.

I don't consider 8-8 an improvement over 8-8, that doesn't make me an antagonist. It's my opinion and you're free to disagree, which you clearly do.

I don't even know what the rest of your post is in reference to. If you're not here to argue with someone, then don't come in and say everyone left on the board sucks and is an idiot because they see things differently. I don't see how that's so difficult to grasp.

iceberg · 01-05-2013

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Originally Posted by TheCount

You seem a little confused. I just said it's rude to come into a thread and call other people names (be it sunshine pumper/whiner) for stating their opinion and then you basically said the exact same thing.

I never said I was a model of anything either, I speak my mind and that's all. I don't appreciate being called a bad poster because I am critical of some aspect of the team, especially since I have never been one of those that finds fault with everything.

I don't consider 8-8 an improvement over 8-8, that doesn't make me an antagonist. It's my opinion and you're free to disagree, which you clearly do.

i don't consider the final record to be the only way to judge a team.

clearly you do.

if i'm wrong there, then stop putting words in my mouth.

but enough, like you said, you talk in here, prepare for an argument and i'm just not gonna go there.

rage on.

TheCount · 01-05-2013

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Originally Posted by iceberg

i don't consider the final record to be the only way to judge a team.

clearly you do.

if i'm wrong there, then stop putting words in my mouth.

but enough, like you said, you talk in here, prepare for an argument and i'm just not gonna go there.

rage on.

Nicely done.

**justbob** · 01-05-2013

I would advise everyone to back off the insults and get back to discussing thread or move on.

Bigdog24 · 01-05-2013

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Originally Posted by justbob

I would advise everyone to back off the insults and get back to discussing thread.

Well crap...what fun is that...

**justbob** · 01-05-2013

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Originally Posted by Bigdog24

Well crap...what fun is that...

Great fun for me --Its what I live for

cowboyeric8 · 01-05-2013

Yes of course the team needs improvement. They would still need improvement if they had just won the Super Bowl.

I see a bigger picture than our record. There is only one champ every year anyway. We are building, I enjoyed this season.

If people can't see improvement and a change for the future please open your eyes or stop watching football.

Coy · 01-05-2013

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Originally Posted by cowboyeric8

Yes of course the team needs improvement. They would still need improvement if they had just won the Super Bowl.

I see a bigger picture than our record. There is only one champ every year anyway. We are building, I enjoyed this season.

If people can't see improvement and a change for the future please open your eyes or stop watching football.

Look, everyone is entitled to their opinion but for you to make such a remark makes me think you are the one who should open your eyes.

Let me just throw some important stats your way from 2011 vs 2012.

Penalties per game 7.1 vs 7.8 (worse)
Scoring per game 23.1 vs 23.5 (just about the same)
Yds per game 375.5 vs 374.6 (just about the same)
Rushing Attempts 25.5 vs 22.2 (worse)
Pts allowed per game 21.7 vs 25 (much worse)
Yds per game allowed 343.2 vs 355.4 (worse)
Turnovers per Game .8 vs 1.2 (worse)

Not to mention other things like Romo throwing 3 less TD's (with one more game played in 2012) and 9 more Int's this year, Garrett still made huge clock managenent gaffes and this team specially the offense looked totaly unprepered at the begining of games.

Although I bet you could find many stats that the Cowboys were better this year than in 2011, my point is, there's no way someone can say we are a much improved team from what we were in 2011.

Look, I respect your opinion and I also see some good things with this team but for you to state that not to see improvement is completely wrong to the point of not watching football is completely wrong IMO.

This is the link where I got the stats from.
http://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/team...lties-category

Vanilla2 · 01-05-2013

I'm curious what people thought Dallas was gonna do before the season.

From some of the posts is read it seems like folks thought they were gonna be really good.

There are some posters here who are able to see the forest through the trees.

Others have an odd sense of entitlement even though I'm sure they went into the season not expecting much.

It's hard being a Cowboy fan these days.

Not so much because of the team but because of this element in the fanbase.

The element that is the joke they claim the team has become.

Rack Bauer · 01-05-2013

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Originally Posted by perrykemp

So... 9-7?

Whoa! Slow down there!

8.1 - 7.9.

It's a process.

CowboysYanksLakers · 01-05-2013

One problem... Romo is still the QB.

cowboyeric8 · 01-06-2013

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Originally Posted by CowboysYanksLakers

One problem... Romo is still the QB.

Yeah that's the one problem. It is in fact not even a problem. You sir are intelligent.

cowboyeric8 · 01-06-2013

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Originally Posted by Coy

Look, everyone is entitled to their opinion but for you to make such a remark makes me think you are the one who should open your eyes.

Let me just throw some important stats your way from 2011 vs 2012.

Penalties per game 7.1 vs 7.8 (worse)
Scoring per game 23.1 vs 23.5 (just about the same)
Yds per game 375.5 vs 374.6 (just about the same)
Rushing Attempts 25.5 vs 22.2 (worse)
Pts allowed per game 21.7 vs 25 (much worse)
Yds per game allowed 343.2 vs 355.4 (worse)
Turnovers per Game .8 vs 1.2 (worse)

Not to mention other things like Romo throwing 3 less TD's (with one more game played in 2012) and 9 more Int's this year, Garrett still made huge clock managenent gaffes and this team specially the offense looked totaly unprepered at the begining of games.

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Thank you for answering civilly. I can't dispute any of your stats. There is just a different aura around this team as lame as that sounds. I truly enjoy watching Cowboys' football again because I like how the team carries themselves and has a never quit attitude. I didn't have high expectations for the year but I did expect playoffs, we were close and would have achieved it if it weren't for the countless injuries. I think we are a few years from being a legitimate contender but believe we are in the right direction. Only time will tell who is right, I wouldn't bet against the Cowboys.

iceberg · 01-06-2013

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Originally Posted by CowboysYanksLakers

One problem... Romo is still the QB.

man, nothing gets by you...