Gosselin comments on the firings - Page 2 - Dallas Cowboys Forum

Vertigo_17 · 01-08-2013

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Originally Posted by FLCowboyFan

Do you remember Zimmer posted as a dunce and run out of town? We didn't love him when we had him.

GROZ

I'll admit I was part of it..and can also admit I was wrong. He wasn't the root of the problem but took a lot of the blame. Doing pretty well in Cincinnatti now

I just have to think this is part of just something larger and behind the scenes JG is being accountable and truly trying to make this team better

Risen Star · 01-08-2013

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Originally Posted by LatinMind

Rick Gosselin ‏@RickGosselinDMN No commitment to run game so you fire RB coach. No healthy bodies on D so you fire the coordinator. The real problems need to be addressed.

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Seems the feelings are mutual everywhere. How do you fire these coaches but keep Garrett.

Im not saying Rob and Peete shouldnt have been fired, but if the message is the job wasnt good enough, i dont see how Garrett keeps his job. Cause he was just as bad if not worse

He lost credibility with me at the start when he mentioned the lack of a commitment to the running game.

When you have no talent up front to run the ball, you better have no commitment to it. I don't want to bang my head against the wall for 3 hours expecting stiffs to turn into players. If that's the hand I'm dealt, I'm committed to Romo carrying the offense. Win or lose.

Zman5 · 01-08-2013

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Originally Posted by erod

The 3-4 got fired. Dallas hasn't played good defense since Zimmer ran the 4-3.

We had a good defense in 2009 under Wade.

Risen Star · 01-08-2013

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Originally Posted by FLCowboyFan

Do you remember Zimmer posted as a dunce and run out of town? We didn't love him when we had him.

That's how it works though. Now he's quality. Like Sean Payton. Man he sucked here. LOL. Over his head. ------- Now he's a football savior.

Guess what happens when Garrett leaves?

Tick tock.

PA Cowboy Fan · 01-08-2013

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Originally Posted by Vertigo_17

GROZ

I'll admit I was part of it..and can also admit I was wrong. He wasn't the root of the problem but took a lot of the blame. Doing pretty well in Cincinnatti now

I just have to think this is part of just something larger and behind the scenes JG is being accountable and truly trying to make this team better

If he wanted to make the team better, he'd bring in an Offensive Coordinator.

superpunk · 01-08-2013

I'm thinking Jerry is just screwing with reds mind, saw style.

He's making him fire all his assistants and get his face ripped off by nipple pins, only to fire him anyway when it's all over. It's the perfect crime.

cwboy1 · 01-08-2013

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Originally Posted by FLCowboyFan

Do you remember Zimmer posted as a dunce and run out of town? We didn't love him when we had him.

This.... What a bunch of fickle fans.....

Vertigo_17 · 01-08-2013

That's my hope at this point. Bring in or turn over OC duties and with Ryan being fired we have an opportunity to upgrade the DC and possibly switch back to the 4-3 depending on the DC.

That is, unless Jerry dictates the defensive scheme BEFORE he hires the DC :-)

CATCH17 · 01-08-2013

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Originally Posted by Risen Star

That's how it works though. Now he's quality. Like Sean Payton. Man he sucked here. LOL. Over his head. ------- Now he's a football savior.

Guess what happens when Garrett leaves?

Tick tock.

Zimmer didn't play to win. I have no problem with him being fired.

Chocolate Lab · 01-08-2013

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Originally Posted by superpunk

I'm thinking Jerry is just screwing with reds mind, saw style.

He's making him fire all his assistants and get his face ripped off by nipple pins, only to fire him anyway when it's all over. It's the perfect crime.

Aven8 · 01-08-2013

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Originally Posted by Risen Star

That's how it works though. Now he's quality. Like Sean Payton. Man he sucked here. LOL. Over his head. ------- Now he's a football savior.

Guess what happens when Garrett leaves?

Tick tock.

Nothing. Payton and Zimmer have skins. How can you even compare the three?

newlander · 01-08-2013

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Originally Posted by Risen Star

That's how it works though. Now he's quality. Like Sean Payton. Man he sucked here. LOL. Over his head. ------- Now he's a football savior.

Guess what happens when Garrett leaves?

Tick tock.

........alot of us feel this way and as much as I hate Al Jr. and his "gm" skills or lack thereof it appears to me he is basically saying: "Ok Red, I forced Rob down your throat and the defense hasn't performed, so now we will go with your guy (Horton?) but the offense hasn't been up to snuff either, so I am going to bring in an OC as well like it or not."

As someone said earlier, it's what Houston did with Kubiak who was teetering on the brink and not getting results: similar to situation with Red and Dallas. Will it work? Probably not if history is an indicator, but.....it's the way I read what he's doing right now.

Chocolate Lab · 01-08-2013

Yeah, but Kubiak's side of the ball was always good once he got a QB, it was the defense that was abysmal. Not the case here.

HoustonFrog · 01-08-2013

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Originally Posted by Chocolate Lab

Yeah, but Kubiak's side of the ball was always good once he got a QB, it was the defense that was abysmal. Not the case here.

Exactly and Kubiak is still a bad game manager. The Texans offense was never a problem. He just hired his buddies as D Coordinator and was foreced to hire Wade to save his tail.

CowboysYanksLakers · 01-08-2013

I think it was the right move... Might be time to go back to the Dallas traditional 4-3 defense.