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Old 01-09-2013   #1
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Default 4-3 Carter OLB?

Can Carter play outside in a 4-3 defense? That could allow Ware-Lee-Carter at linebacker. But if you sign Spencer after a very impressive season, you have an excess LB who really needs to be on the field.

Assuming we would stay in a 3-4 alignment, I've been telling my family that the Cowboys linebackers in 2013 might prove to be the best in the history of the Dallas Cowboys using the assumption that Spencer is re-signed or franchised with Lee and Carter on the inside.
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Can Carter play outside in a 4-3 defense? That could allow Ware-Lee-Carter at linebacker. But if you sign Spencer after a very impressive season, you have an excess LB who really needs to be on the field.

Assuming we would stay in a 3-4 alignment, I've been telling my family that the Cowboys linebackers in 2013 might prove to be the best in the history of the Dallas Cowboys using the assumption that Spencer is re-signed or franchised with Lee and Carter on the inside.
Ware would most likely play defensive end in a 4-3, not linebacker.

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I'd love to see what he can do as an edge rusher on passing downs.
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the question w carter was could he play inside in a 3-4

hes proven he can play outside in a 4-3...at least in college

he will be fine
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Spencer and ware would play d end in a 43.
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Carter and Lee IMo can play any 3 of the Lber posistions in the 4-3. Ware is a DE plain and simple. Dallas goes to a 4-3 i think ull see Dallas resign Sims

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Can Carter play outside in a 4-3 defense? That could allow Ware-Lee-Carter at linebacker. But if you sign Spencer after a very impressive season, you have an excess LB who really needs to be on the field.

Assuming we would stay in a 3-4 alignment, I've been telling my family that the Cowboys linebackers in 2013 might prove to be the best in the history of the Dallas Cowboys using the assumption that Spencer is re-signed or franchised with Lee and Carter on the inside.
Dominant, I take it you don't watch much college football (which is not a knock or dig at you). Bruce Carter played OLB in 4-3 while at UNC. He played both WLB & SLB. He and Lee both played in the 4-3 in college. Ware would NOT be a LB in the 4-3 - he would be the Rush End (normally, the Right End).
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Carter and Lee IMo can play any 3 of the Lber posistions in the 4-3. Ware is a DE plain and simple. Dallas goes to a 4-3 i think ull see Dallas resign Sims

OLB Carter
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OLB Sims
This is my feeling. This was my biggest reasoning for wanting to resign sims.
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Spencer is very strong against the run, so shouldn't he be strong side LB?
Carter is very fast and athletic, so he should be weak side LB right?
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Can Carter play outside in a 4-3 defense? That could allow Ware-Lee-Carter at linebacker. But if you sign Spencer after a very impressive season, you have an excess LB who really needs to be on the field.

Assuming we would stay in a 3-4 alignment, I've been telling my family that the Cowboys linebackers in 2013 might prove to be the best in the history of the Dallas Cowboys using the assumption that Spencer is re-signed or franchised with Lee and Carter on the inside.
Your premise of Carter being an OLB in a 4-3 is nice. But then you imply Ware and Spencer would be LB's in a 4-3 which brings to question do you understand the difference between the two formations, and the players that it requires?

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Jeff: No, I didn't watch Carter at UNC. I do now remember the discussion about moving him inside after playing outside previously.

With both Spencer and Ware at DE, would be a little small at that position? I know guys like Charles Haley played smaller but 2 DEs at 250 & 255 lbs feels a little small. Ware would be fine. Spencer is strong against the run so maybe it would work fine for him too.
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Carter and Lee IMo can play any 3 of the Lber posistions in the 4-3. Ware is a DE plain and simple. Dallas goes to a 4-3 i think ull see Dallas resign Sims

OLB Carter
ILB Lee
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This is what I am hoping for. It also can allow for Spencer to leave and also eliminates a need for a huge NT if Ratliff is retained and moves to DT in the 4-3.
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Your premise of Carter being an OLB in a 4-3 is nice. But then you imply Ware and Spencer would be LB's in a 4-3 which brings to question do you understand the difference between the two formations, and the players that it requires?
I do. But I was pondering keeping Ware at LB in a 4-3 anyway. Then, on passing downs, we put Ware on the line and perhaps even one more of our other LBs.
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If we go to the 4-3 the Lee/Carter/Sims combo will be speedy and exciting. No more getting gashed beacause of the damn flats.

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This is what I am hoping for. It also can allow for Spencer to leave and also eliminates a need for a huge NT if Ratliff is retained and moves to DT in the 4-3.
I wondered how Ratliff might do shifting to the DT position similar to how Glover played a decade or so ago, then bringing in a huge NT.
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