In Sum: Why Jerry Jones is a Psycho

[Irving Cowboy]

Originally Posted by DOUBLE WING

Matt Millen was on the competition committee too.

Just saying.

Well that just means he was not a joke at the time, apparently.

[DOUBLE WING]

Originally Posted by Irving Cowboy

Well that just means he was not a joke at the time, apparently.

He was named to the Competition Committee near the end of his tenure in Detroit, so no, he was definitely viewed as a joke at the time.

[Hostile]

Originally Posted by TwoDeep3

Wasn't it you that posted the local channel 11 football report on training camp as crack evidence that Jerry Jones is merely a guy that hangs out with the decision makers?

I'm sorry, that question was just baaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhd.

No, I'm the guy who posted the video of Tom Ciskowski explaining his job which a lot of "geniuses" in here clearly did not know the details of.

Details that I had outlined over and over to derision many times. I posted the video as evidence of the man's duties, not because I follow the media. Huge difference.

[Hostile]

Originally Posted by DOUBLE WING

Matt Millen was on the competition committee too.

Just saying.

Can you find me a video of Ozzie Newsome mocking and joking about Matt Millen? Fans and media did. I did. But the point was and remains laughed at in NFL circles. I don't believe so, and as bad as Millen was he still knows more about football than any of us. So let that sink in a little.

[DOUBLE WING]

Originally Posted by Hostile

Can you find me a video of Ozzie Newsome mocking and joking about Matt Millen? Fans and media did. I did. But the point was and remains laughed at in NFL circles. I don't believe so, and as bad as Millen was he still knows more about football than any of us. So let that sink in a little.

Can you find a video of Ozzie Newsome mocking and joking about anyone? I'm sure he's done it before in his life. I'm not sure why you'd expect me to have access to video of it.

[Hostile]

Originally Posted by DOUBLE WING

Can you find a video of Ozzie Newsome mocking and joking about anyone? I'm sure he's done it before in his life. I'm not sure why you'd expect me to have access to video of it.

It does not fall on me to prove the comment, because I didn't make it.

http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showpo...7&postcount=75

He said Dallas is laughed at by the entire league. No sir.

You can try and spin it off into Matt Millen and the price of coffee at Starbucks all you want. But the fact is the Cowboys are not disrespected and laughed at around the NFL. Outside the NFL, yes. Same with Millen. As I said, I'm even guilty of that myself.

But the comment was laughed at by the entire league. It was an is a rash statement that is completely unfounded.

You can continue to try and uphold it if you wish, but I'm not moving from that statement and all the little sidebar attempts to move from it won't work.

[TwoDeep3]

1. Jerry could have used his resources to improve the offense this off-season after spending a zillion on defense. The defense was not that bad, and with health could have been vastly improved if the offense was not a turn over machine.

2. Jerry fired Rob Ryan. he may have needed firing, but this caused a huge problem that hasn't been considered.

3. Kiffin will need to do at least some retooling. His defense is predicated on strong defensive tackles that hold their ground and can stop the run. The machinations of the back field in this defense means there will be times the linebackers are moving with receivers and leaving the middle open for the tackles to make the plays.

It would be seriously naive to expect that this team has the personnel for the interior defensive line at this point.

4. That means resources will need to be spent that could have gone to shoring up the offense.

So in Jerry's mind as he plays GM he created a problem by hiring Kiffin he did not have to begin with.

Because the offense was the weak link, and the offensive line was the problem for the offense.

And now with the resources being allocated to defense for the new DC - a supposition at this point but scheme isn't anything if the talent isn't there to perform it.

This leaves the team with the same offense they had last year. And while Romo threw an inordinate amount of picks, it was because of the offensive line and skill player mistakes that contributed to most.

How have we fixed that?

Well, to date, we haven't.

And no amount of videos of Tom Cisnowski absolve Jerry of the moves he just made.

[DOUBLE WING]

Originally Posted by Hostile

It does not fall on me to prove the comment, because I didn't make it.

http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showpo...7&postcount=75

He said Dallas is laughed at by the entire league. No sir.

You can try and spin it off into Matt Millen and the price of coffee at Starbucks all you want. But the fact is the Cowboys are not disrespected and laughed at around the NFL. Outside the NFL, yes. Same with Millen. As I said, I'm even guilty of that myself.

But the comment was laughed at by the entire league. It was an is a rash statement that is completely unfounded.

You can continue to try and uphold it if you wish, but I'm not moving from that statement and all the little sidebar attempts to move from it won't work.

I think the fact that no other team was willing to even sniff Millen after he left Detroit is a much stronger indication of what the rest of the NFL thought of him than the fact that he was on the Competition Committee.

Doesn't the Commissioner alone appoint members to the Committee anyway? It isn't like the entire NFL takes a vote and selects someone.

Now, are we laughed at by the rest of the league? I don't know if we are or not, but I don't think anyone around the league respects Jerry as a personnel guy. Nobody else would hire him as a GM. In that respect, we..or at least he, are a complete joke.

[Holdenteller67]

Originally Posted by Irving Cowboy

Really? Well why don't you enlighten me as to who hired him as GM? Because on 31 other teams that is what has happened.

Just because I go and buy a 747 doesn't make me a pilot. If I put on an outfit and sat in the chair, I would be accused of impersonating a pilot.

[popp1234]

Originally Posted by TwoDeep3

1. Jerry could have used his resources to improve the offense this off-season after spending a zillion on defense. The defense was not that bad, and with health could have been vastly improved if the offense was not a turn over machine.

2. Jerry fired Rob Ryan. he may have needed firing, but this caused a huge problem that hasn't been considered.

3. Kiffin will need to do at least some retooling. His defense is predicated on strong defensive tackles that hold their ground and can stop the run. The machinations of the back field in this defense means there will be times the linebackers are moving with receivers and leaving the middle open for the tackles to make the plays.

It would be seriously naive to expect that this team has the personnel for the interior defensive line at this point.

4. That means resources will need to be spent that could have gone to shoring up the offense.

[View Full Quote]So in Jerry's mind as he plays GM he created a problem by hiring Kiffin he did not have to begin with.

Because the offense was the weak link, and the offensive line was the problem for the offense.

And now with the resources being allocated to defense for the new DC - a supposition at this point but scheme isn't anything if the talent isn't there to perform it.

This leaves the team with the same offense they had last year. And while Romo threw an inordinate amount of picks, it was because of the offensive line and skill player mistakes that contributed to most.

How have we fixed that?

Well, to date, we haven't.

And no amount of videos of Tom Cisnowski absolve Jerry of the moves he just made.

The scariest thing to me is that I just came to the realization that Jerry really believes in what he is doing. He wants to win...really badly. One could only dream of the catastrophic consequences that would ensue if he actually sucked as GM because he didn't care about winning. This, to me is SCARY.

[jnday]

Originally Posted by DOUBLE WING

I think the fact that no other team was willing to even sniff Millen after he left Detroit is a much stronger indication of what the rest of the NFL thought of him than the fact that he was on the Competition Committee.

Doesn't the Commissioner alone appoint members to the Committee anyway? It isn't like the entire NFL takes a vote and selects someone.

Now, are we laughed at by the rest of the league? I don't know if we are or not, but I don't think anyone around the league respects Jerry as a personnel guy. Nobody else would hire him as a GM. In that respect, we..or at least he, are a complete joke.

Jerry is well respected for being a money making owner, but Jerry or Stephen couldn't get a GM job with any other team. Jerry had to buy the team to find an owner dumb enough to let him be a GM. Stephen is worse. He doesn't come off as a guy with much personality and he sure as hell doesn't know talent. Risen Star would make a better GM than either of them, so would many other fans.

[Bluestang]

Originally Posted by TwoDeep3

1. Jerry could have used his resources to improve the offense this off-season after spending a zillion on defense. The defense was not that bad, and with health could have been vastly improved if the offense was not a turn over machine.

2. Jerry fired Rob Ryan. he may have needed firing, but this caused a huge problem that hasn't been considered.

3. Kiffin will need to do at least some retooling. His defense is predicated on strong defensive tackles that hold their ground and can stop the run. The machinations of the back field in this defense means there will be times the linebackers are moving with receivers and leaving the middle open for the tackles to make the plays.

It would be seriously naive to expect that this team has the personnel for the interior defensive line at this point.

4. That means resources will need to be spent that could have gone to shoring up the offense.

[View Full Quote]So in Jerry's mind as he plays GM he created a problem by hiring Kiffin he did not have to begin with.

Because the offense was the weak link, and the offensive line was the problem for the offense.

And now with the resources being allocated to defense for the new DC - a supposition at this point but scheme isn't anything if the talent isn't there to perform it.

This leaves the team with the same offense they had last year. And while Romo threw an inordinate amount of picks, it was because of the offensive line and skill player mistakes that contributed to most.

How have we fixed that?

Well, to date, we haven't.

And no amount of videos of Tom Cisnowski absolve Jerry of the moves he just made.

Regardless of the front 3-4 or 4-3, we need to upgrade the DL. If we had stayed in a 3-4, we still need a DT/NT, and a OLB/DE.

Dallas rushed 4 men or fewer 76% of the time this season. 3-4, 4-3 is doesn't really matter what you put out there as a base defense.

Nickel and Dime formations are the new rage. That's where you make a living these days in the NFL.

Sub-packages are what offenses want to attack you because you have to put lesser talented players (third DB or one-dimensional DL) on the field.

[Zordon]

Originally Posted by TwoDeep3

1. Jerry could have used his resources to improve the offense this off-season after spending a zillion on defense. The defense was not that bad, and with health could have been vastly improved if the offense was not a turn over machine.

2. Jerry fired Rob Ryan. he may have needed firing, but this caused a huge problem that hasn't been considered.

3. Kiffin will need to do at least some retooling. His defense is predicated on strong defensive tackles that hold their ground and can stop the run. The machinations of the back field in this defense means there will be times the linebackers are moving with receivers and leaving the middle open for the tackles to make the plays.

It would be seriously naive to expect that this team has the personnel for the interior defensive line at this point.

4. That means resources will need to be spent that could have gone to shoring up the offense.

[View Full Quote]So in Jerry's mind as he plays GM he created a problem by hiring Kiffin he did not have to begin with.

Because the offense was the weak link, and the offensive line was the problem for the offense.

And now with the resources being allocated to defense for the new DC - a supposition at this point but scheme isn't anything if the talent isn't there to perform it.

This leaves the team with the same offense they had last year. And while Romo threw an inordinate amount of picks, it was because of the offensive line and skill player mistakes that contributed to most.

How have we fixed that?

Well, to date, we haven't.

And no amount of videos of Tom Cisnowski absolve Jerry of the moves he just made.

excellent post. you pretty much said word for word why i am hesitant about this move.

[jnday]

Originally Posted by TwoDeep3

1. Jerry could have used his resources to improve the offense this off-season after spending a zillion on defense. The defense was not that bad, and with health could have been vastly improved if the offense was not a turn over machine.

2. Jerry fired Rob Ryan. he may have needed firing, but this caused a huge problem that hasn't been considered.

3. Kiffin will need to do at least some retooling. His defense is predicated on strong defensive tackles that hold their ground and can stop the run. The machinations of the back field in this defense means there will be times the linebackers are moving with receivers and leaving the middle open for the tackles to make the plays.

It would be seriously naive to expect that this team has the personnel for the interior defensive line at this point.

4. That means resources will need to be spent that could have gone to shoring up the offense.

[View Full Quote]So in Jerry's mind as he plays GM he created a problem by hiring Kiffin he did not have to begin with.

Because the offense was the weak link, and the offensive line was the problem for the offense.

And now with the resources being allocated to defense for the new DC - a supposition at this point but scheme isn't anything if the talent isn't there to perform it.

This leaves the team with the same offense they had last year. And while Romo threw an inordinate amount of picks, it was because of the offensive line and skill player mistakes that contributed to most.

How have we fixed that?

Well, to date, we haven't.

And no amount of videos of Tom Cisnowski absolve Jerry of the moves he just made.

Great post. Actually, better than great.

[Irving Cowboy]

Originally Posted by DOUBLE WING

He was named to the Competition Committee near the end of his tenure in Detroit, so no, he was definitely viewed as a joke at the time.

I was being sarcastic.