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Old 01-11-2013   #16
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Who cares about the age... Monte Kiffin is a defensive GURU! I'm just happy Dallas is going back to a 4-3 defense!

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It's funny how the narrative always changes.

When Rob came in, Garrett was praised to the nines here for supposedly recognizing how important it was bringing in a DC that was the opposite of him personality-wise. Kind of a good cop/bad cop thing.

Now that failed and...oh wait, that wasn't Garrett's fault. Now we hail him as a genius for finally hiring "his kind of guy".

There's always an excuse. This move is all Jerry.
Whenever Jerry is interviewed he's always saying what's he's going to do.

So it's clear Jerry is making these moves.

I just wish he'd fire the coach that has no clue what he's doing.
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Take it for what its worth but The Fan reported earlier today that RR was a Garrett hire. Garrett got the thumbs up from his good pal Norv Turner who had RR on his staff in Oakland.

The way I see it, RR did a great sales job on Garrett and he did not live up to it. We'll never know what RR promised he could accomplish but it obviously was not achieved.
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I think we've come to the point where Jerry is giving Garrett the keys.
I sure hope that you're right, but this feels like either confirmation bias or wishful thinking. If Garrett is indeed stripped of playcalling responsibilities - or steps back from them willingly, would you still have the same perspective?
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I sure hope that you're right, but this feels like either confirmation bias or wishful thinking. If Garrett is indeed stripped of playcalling responsibilities - or steps back from them willingly, would you still have the same perspective?
Yes because overall the team is going in the direction that Garrett wants. IDK if thats a good thing or bad at this point. I just know i wanted to see a change in the coaching. Basically because this team was stupid in terms of the basic fundamentals, namely penalties.

Id like to see who Garrett chooses to concede his playcalling duties to. IMO Callahan can go. If theyre going to fire Ryan because his defense was fundamentally bad, they can fire Callahan too. Because his group was fundamentally horrible. Penalties, missed assignments.

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Yes because overall the team is going in the direction that Garrett wants. IDK if thats a good thing or bad at this point. I just know i wanted to see a change in the coaching. Basically because this team was stupid in terms of the basic fundamentals, namely penalties.

Id like to see who Garrett chooses to concede his playcalling duties to. IMO Callahan can go. If theyre going to fire Ryan because his defense was fundamentally bad, they can fire Callahan too. Because his group was fundamentally horrible. Penalties, missed assignments.
Not to be contrary, but it seems like you just "feel" that Garrett is getting the keys and won't be convinced otherwise by any evidence. Is there anything short of Garrett getting fired that would convince you that he doesn't have the keys?

You may end up being right, but it feels like a stretch to spin one of the coaches Garrett picked getting fired and a loss of playcalling responsibilities as evidence of increased authority.

Again, I hope you're right.
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Wow, ill start this off with just saying WOW!

Now i dont know if thats a good or bad wow just yet, but i guess we will find out in this year.

While alot of people are saying this is a Jerry move and Garrett is now his puppet. Ill say its the contrary, this is clearly a Garrett move. Kiffin is not the type of guy that Jerry goes after. He's about the flashy guy. Kiffen is a older version of Garrett personality wise. Boring and smart. Will not speak the media and will just get his job done.

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Wow, ill start this off with just saying WOW!

Now i dont know if thats a good or bad wow just yet, but i guess we will find out in this year.

While alot of people are saying this is a Jerry move and Garrett is now his puppet. Ill say its the contrary, this is clearly a Garrett move. Kiffin is not the type of guy that Jerry goes after. He's about the flashy guy. Kiffen is a older version of Garrett personality wise. Boring and smart. Will not speak the media and will just get his job done.

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I believe you may be onto something here. Jerry gives Jason the keys and full rope for the next year. Plenty of rope to either hang himself or jump rope to greater heights. I believe this is Jerry' s masterful way of making this a defining year for the young JG.
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Oh, and for the record, I LOVE this hire and how "uncomfortable" it makes many at VR. Work it Jerry!
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Maybe because he's afraid of young people, bright lights, and pooping himself at the podium.
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I agree this is a Garrett move, but I disagree that this is a good move.

I think Garrett has more power than people here think. Jerry listens to him.

But Kiffin is just too old. Being a DC requires long work hours and a lot of energy. It is a fast paced job and I doubt a 72 year old can handle it. Also, he was not succesful in his previous job, so I have my doubts that this will work. I am very concerned about the direction of this organization. I was not a huge RR fan, but he did a decent job with what he had. The defense had a real chance to improve next year and now we have to start over.
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I agree this is a Garrett move, but I disagree that this is a good move.

I think Garrett has more power than people here think. Jerry listens to him.

But Kiffin is just too old. Being a DC requires long work hours and a lot of energy. It is a fast paced job and I doubt a 72 year old can handle it. Also, he was not succesful in his previous job, so I have my doubts that this will work. I am very concerned about the direction of this organization. I was not a huge RR fan, but he did a decent job with what he had. The defense had a real chance to improve next year and now we have to start over.
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Yowza! Who's that pretty gal in your sig?
That's her.
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