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Old 01-16-2013   #121
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.....Carroll had NFL experience and so did Harbaugh: plus they both PLAYED and had that credibility. Kelly is a fat lil' troll. He'll be gone in 2 years IMO.
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Old 01-16-2013   #122
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I think the last true football genius was Landry.


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It is certainly thrown around too much, but I think Belichick deserves that label.
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Old 01-16-2013   #123
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Not good for us...not good at all. The NFL is changing, Chip Kelly is perfect for the new generation of NFL offenses
This.

And again Garrett is STILL the worst coach in the NFC East.
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Old 01-16-2013   #124
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.....Carroll had NFL experience and so did Harbaugh: plus they both PLAYED and had that credibility. Kelly is a fat lil' troll. He'll be gone in 2 years IMO.
Kelly played small division college football just like Bill Belichick.
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Old 01-16-2013   #125
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NFC East is about to get to a whole new level. It just had to be NFC East to be the beast of the NFL. Only can imagine more exciting rivalries to come.
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Old 01-16-2013   #126
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I don't really care if Kelly does well, if the Giants bounce back, if RGIII stays healthy.

I just want the Cowboys to put together a consistently good team.
The truth almost always lies somewhere in between...

Except on CZ.
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I really hope I was wrong about 2 months ago and that the NFL isn't headed in a different direction because if it is and we're still stuck in the mud than it's going to take us a couple years just to play catch up.
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The problem I have with Kelly's offense is not its simplicity, I think simple offenses can work - though the best (GB, NE, NO) are very complex. My issue with his offense is that it is predicated entirely on speed. They line up and essentially say things like "our RBs will beat your LBs to the edge every time." In college that idea works, and it frees up lots of other opportunities...it won't in the NFL.


..........great post. He had HUGE speed mismatches and PACE mismatches on the field. NFL refs won't RUN at break neck speed to spot the ball: guys will get hurt, guys will fake getting hurt and it will all slow down,and they WILL have to huddle up at times. I will also say that Oregon didn't have alot of success against the pro style teams it played: Stanford, Ohio State, etc....the defenses in the Pac 12 :including U$c LED BY Grandpa Kiffin, were horrific. A pro style D' can mash an offense like this. Plus....defenses WILL adjust to all this gimmicky crap too: RG3, Russell WIlson and Kaepernick will be shocked at some of the defenses they see rolled out next season; there WILL be adjustments and quickly.

...but can a guy like KIFFIN adjust? Doubtful based on what his teams at Tennessee and U$C did vs. these high octane offenses
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Hurry up and no huddle offenses have worked a lot in the NFL. The Bills went to 4 SBs with one.

...then the defenses adjusted and stopped them: starting with Dallas.
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I really hope I was wrong about 2 months ago and that the NFL isn't headed in a different direction because if it is and we're still stuck in the mud than it's going to take us a couple years just to play catch up.
IMHO, the Tampa 4-3 is a much better defense to defend the read option than the 3-4. You need small fast LBs who can chase sideline to sideline, not 255 lbs. Bradie James/Brandon Spikes/Larry Foote/Ted Johnson playing gap control. You also need fast DEs running up field to funnel everything inside to be cleaned up by persuit, not Ty Warren or Kenyon Coleman playing read and react 2 gap.

Also, college field makes it easier to use spread offenses because of the hash marks splits. Offenses have 12 more feet to use to run to the field side.

Despite labeling myself a "realist", no one understands my pain or appreciates my special truth. Stupid world.

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I really hope I was wrong about 2 months ago and that the NFL isn't headed in a different direction because if it is and we're still stuck in the mud than it's going to take us a couple years just to play catch up.
If so, then we wouldn't be the only ones.
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Are the Eagles trying to replicate every mistake the Redskins have made? Mind you, I would not mind seeing them in the basement every year, but I thought the Skins showed what not to do very well prior to the Shanahan/Allen hire.

1) don't pay big bucks for the media doll at the start of FA
2) don't hire a college coach with minimal to no NFL experience.
3) don't ignore importance of OL/DL in drafts

there are probably so many more ways that they are following in our footsteps. I hope they flounder around in the basement the next couple(dozen) years!!!
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If so, then we wouldn't be the only ones.
We aren't. Lots of teams have been switching from 3-4 to 4-3 lately.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/80...defense-future
http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_17418393

Not to mention Andy Reid was rumored to have wanted Kiffin in Kansas City, and only decided to keep their current 3-4 after losing out on him.
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Someone needs to inform Seattle and Chicago that their defenses were only competitive against conventional offenses.
Yes they Sea/Chi were very competitve with pretty much the opposite personell types that we presently have on D. It will take a while to acquire the pieces.
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Yes they Sea/Chi were very competitve with pretty much the opposite personell that we have on D. It will take a while to acquire the pieces.
So it's the personnel, not that the scheme is outdated.

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