Did Matty Ice & Tom Brady "Choke" in Romo Fashion?

[Teague31]

Originally Posted by zack

Some of that makes sense but Cap is only throwing the ball 22 times vs Romo who throws it 40-45 times per game. Again the balance issue is my point.

Not to mention that when defenses actually have to respect the run it makes throwing so much easier

[ufcrules1]

Originally Posted by zack

Some of that makes sense but Cap is only throwing the ball 22 times vs Romo who throws it 40-45 times per game. Again the balance issue is my point.

Zack.. in time you will come around. I have seen many Romo homers come around. The latest one is Catch17, he gave me grief for 2 years here and now he is saying the same things I have been saying. I don't fault you for having the opinion that you do, heck, I once had the same opinion. Just keep watching closely. I will be routing hard for Romo and the Cowboys just like you... deep down I have lost all faith in Romo though.

[Blast From The Past]

Originally Posted by WPBCowboysFan

Yea, I know, another Romo thread.

Matty Ice has 1, thats right ONE playoff win, correct? Yesterday HE coughed up a big lead. HE threw a pick. HE fumbled a snap. HE didnt get it done at the end of the game down in the redzone.

Is Matty Ice a choker too?

How about the venerated Tom Brady? On BSPN this morning they said he is 7-7 in his last 14 playoff games. Yesterday HE screwed up with clock management at the end of the 1st half. HE didnt put up any points in the 2nd half. HE threw picks.

Is Tom CryBrady a choker too?

Or, do we put these losses on the teams?

Oh, and BTW, what about Peyton Manning? 9-11 in the post season. Threw a pick to lose the game in OT against the Ravens.

Peyton a choker too?

Those three are not chokers! This is a team sport and their teammates didn't do their part in all of their playoff losses. Now Romo on the other hand is a textbook definition of a choker you see. He and he alone has the responsibility to make sure the Cowboys win all their games no questions asked.

[Clove]

Originally Posted by BanditHiro

Tom Brady like most QB look pretty average under pressure.

He wasn't under THAT much pressure. He had normal pressure like both QBs did.

(this next statement is not directed at you, have to have my disclaimers now-a-days)

I'm just sick of everyone comparing our NOTHING QUARTERBACK, to guys who are annually in the playoffs, and competing for Super Bowls. Romo apologists/excuses-makers are super annoying, I wish they all would go away and take Romo with them.

[forever22]

Originally Posted by Coy

You got that right but the truth is that we probably win that last game with Orton or some other average QB, Romo did blow it but that´s what you get with him, no other way around it, either he´s the best player on the field for the Cowboys and our only hope to win a game or he flat out chokes and loses the game all by himself which IMO he did in Washington.

But I doubt they win those games leading up to it, with a lot of other QB's and especially Orton, as well. He was basically perfect in those wins, so with or without him, they wouldn't have made the playoffs anyway.

I won't stand here and say Romo is one of the greatest. I know he has his faults but he has a lot of strengths as well and made some incredible plays over the years. I just find a lot of criticism thrown his way is just unbelievable, especially from some of the fans on this board who know a lot about football

I'm not gonna try and compare him to someone else because it isn't fair to anyone. You don't know how someone's career would pan out being with another team, players, coaches and schemes.

It is what it is with Brady and Rogers. They are very good QB's who have won and no taking it away from them. You just can't compare Romo to them and what they've accomplished.

We also have to face the fact that if you aren't a Cowboys fan, you despise them. No criticism is going to be fair

[noshame]

Originally Posted by Super_Kazuya

People keep saying the same stupid things "over and over". The Washington game was the first time you could make the argument that Romo was the primary culprit in losing. You sound like an uneducated national observer instead of a Cowboys fan.

The first time? See, this is what makes me crazy. I root for Tony every week, but I don't see for a NY minute Tony ever putting together 3-4 solid games in the play-offs.

Reminds me of Danny White. Not in style, but in results, Danny would look like Heavens gift to the Cowboys for a couple games, then vomit pea soup and twirl his head in the next.

[Super_Kazuya]

Originally Posted by noshame

The first time? See, this is what makes me crazy. I root for Tony every week, but I don't see for a NY minute Tony ever putting together 3-4 solid games in the play-offs.

Reminds me of Danny White. Not in style, but in results, Danny would look like Heavens gift to the Cowboys for a couple games, then vomit pea soup and twirl his head in the next.

LOL, he's only played 4 playoff games, period. If you question if it's the first time, NAME the other times.

[Coy]

Originally Posted by forever22

But I doubt they win those games leading up to it, with a lot of other QB's and especially Orton, as well. He was basically perfect in those wins, so with or without him, they wouldn't have made the playoffs anyway.

I won't stand here and say Romo is one of the greatest. I know he has his faults but he has a lot of strengths as well and made some incredible plays over the years. I just find a lot of criticism thrown his way is just unbelievable, especially from some of the fans on this board who know a lot about football

I'm not gonna try and compare him to someone else because it isn't fair to anyone. You don't know how someone's career would pan out being with another team, players, coaches and schemes.

It is what it is with Brady and Rogers. They are very good QB's who have won and no taking it away from them. You just can't compare Romo to them and what they've accomplished.

[View Full Quote]We also have to face the fact that if you aren't a Cowboys fan, you despise them. No criticism is going to be fair

That´s exactly what I´m trying to say, he may play like the best QB in football like he did from week 10 to week 16 or so but unfortunately he still can play and lose a game almost by himself like he did in week 17, Love him or Hate him, that´s Romo.

[DFWJC]

Originally Posted by Coy

That´s exactly what I´m trying to say, he may play like the best QB in football like he did from week 10 to week 16 or so but unfortunately he still can play and lose a game almost by himself like he did in week 17, Love him or Hate him, that´s Romo.

And that's about right. It's not like was said earlier, that "he can just as easily lose the game as win it". No, he can win about 5 times as often as he can lose it. The question then becomes "is that good enough". Is a 5-1 ratio good enough..especially given the team around him?

[davidyee]

[quote=ufcrules1;Harbaugh would be in Tony's grill non stop if he pulled those tactics in San Fran.[/QUOTE]

...Alex Smith's grill all last year and Smith had some poor games where if it wasn't for their defence they should not have won.

This year he gave Smith the starting job, but very quietly gave Kaep the job due to a concussion.

You are making stuff up about Harbaugh's demeanor with his QBs in order to justify your argument.

I would like you to prove to us where you have seen Harbaugh's demeanor with his QBs. From what I found most of it was very encouraging of Smith despite the fact that this year he was having one of his worst in terms of protecting the ball.

Made especially worse since he is Mr. Dink and Dunk and is regularly lambasted by 49er fans for being so.

Maybe you need to get off your high horse about Romo.

[Coy]

Originally Posted by DFWJC

And that's about right. It's not like was said earlier, that "he can just as easily lose the game as win it". No, he can win about 5 times as often as he can lose it. The question then becomes "is that good enough". Is a 5-1 ratio good enough..especially given the team around him?

Yep, although you wish that 1 bad game isn´t in a win or lose scenario like it was this year and frankly on a couple of other years as well, this isn´t to say he lost those games by himself, certainly not, but he hasn´t played very well either.

[davidyee]

Originally Posted by Clove

He wasn't under THAT much pressure. He had normal pressure like both QBs did.

(this next statement is not directed at you, have to have my disclaimers now-a-days)

I'm just sick of everyone comparing our NOTHING QUARTERBACK, to guys who are annually in the playoffs, and competing for Super Bowls. Romo apologists/excuses-makers are super annoying, I wish they all would go away and take Romo with them.

...I don't understand why you are even here on this board or a fan of the Cowboys?

Tens of thousands of posts and you are so miserable and vindictive to others who don't share your opinion. You say things above like you are "sick". Want posters to "go away". Listen to yourself!!! Seriously. This is a sports fan board and you have gotten yourself to this state.

Do you actually have any friends? How can you spend so much time on this board with that kind of attitude and not have a coronary?

You must not have any fingernails?

I seriously suggest you find another team to cheer for. Go outside for some fresh air. Take up jogging. Exercise. Get away form the computer for at least two months.

There is possibly a mental health term coined for the condition that you constantly find yourself in with regards to talking about the Cowboys and Tony Romo.

You need to check out of being a Cowboys fan. Honestly. For the good of yourself and the rest of us.

[DavidAK]

These stupid comparisons trying to find the silver lining with Romo are starting to get extremely annoying. I don't see this anywhere else besides this forum...Matt Ryan and Tom Brady had bad games in their respective Championship games...Why are we even talking about Romo again?

[DFWJC]

Originally Posted by Coy

Yep, although you wish that 1 bad game isn´t in a win or lose scenario like it was this year and frankly on a couple of other years as well, this isn´t to say he lost those games by himself, certainly not, but he hasn´t played very well either.

I'd say he had three really bad ones this year and maybe a couple of others that were JAG level. The rest, he was very good.
Regardless of the reasons, this year was subpar for him overall, no doubt.
Put it this way, his good to bad ratio was probably not 5:1 until late in the season.

Last year, when the Cowboys were really overmatched and also lost in the last game at New York, Romo survived a real beating and was not too bad.
He 29-37, 2 TDs, 1 int and a 106 passer rating , all with a hand that looked like a football.
But he was sacked 7 times--really battered--and Cruz started the game off witha 74 yard TD catch and run. it was over before it started really. The Giants never lost again.

[DFWJC]

Originally Posted by davidyee

...I don't understand why you are even here on this board or a fan of the Cowboys?

Tens of thousands of posts and you are so miserable and vindictive to others who don't share your opinion. You say things above like you are "sick". Want posters to "go away". Listen to yourself!!! Seriously. This is a sports fan board and you have gotten yourself to this state.

Do you actually have any friends? How can you spend so much time on this board with that kind of attitude and not have a coronary?

You must not have any fingernails?

I seriously suggest you find another team to cheer for. Go outside for some fresh air. Take up jogging. Exercise. Get away form the computer for at least two months.

There is possibly a mental health term coined for the condition that you constantly find yourself in with regards to talking about the Cowboys and Tony Romo.

[View Full Quote]You need to check out of being a Cowboys fan. Honestly. For the good of yourself and the rest of us.

Clove's pretty funny when he's on your side.

Regarding Romo, I think he's way over-the-top. But people are fed up and when the next to last drive of the season ends in a pick, it brings up all those old memories as if it happens every week.

Granted, the tone of Clove's comments on all topics seem to be a bit mean-spirited. But since I don't now him I don't know if he is actually a vile person.
Like I said, when you have him in your corner, it's kind of fun for a change....in a morbid way.