Review Morris Claiborne's Rookie Season

[LatinMind]

Originally Posted by The Natural

Revis "wasn't Revis" his first year but he still had a much more impressive rookie season than Claiborne, posted 30 more tackles, tripled the interceptions, and doubled his passes defended. You can make the scheme argument but like another poster said he's not big enough yet, he needs to add atleast 10 pounds of muscle.

They also play a much more different style of DEF. Revis plays man. Mo played too much zone. We'll see how he does this yr.

[Ntegrase96]

Originally Posted by JerryJonesMustGo

He is not strong enough to press NFL receivers at this point in his career. I have my doubts to if he can add mass and still keep his 4.5 speed.

He could probably stand to put on a bit more muscle, but I don't think he's had many issues pressing NFL receivers.

Also his game speed looks to be faster than his 40 time.

[jterrell]

Originally Posted by JerryJonesMustGo

He is not a revis type of player. Not as fast nor as strong as DR. Temper expectations.

He is as fast with excellent agility. He certainly is no where near as strong and hasn't shown the awareness.

But he was playing man press coverage as a rookie in the NFL. That's about as hard as it gets after QB.

Anyone not impressed with him probably has a very limited football IQ.

Now as to how improves and grows that is up to his work ethic and ability to learn.

But there are 32 NFL teams that would love to have him including this one.

[Tenkamenin]

Originally Posted by Jenky

Revis wasn't Revis his first year.

A lot of you are going to eat your own words, cause this kid definitely has it.

Deion wasn't Primetime his first year as well, he had quite a few games where he was burnt toast. Corners tend to make a major leap there second year, there footwork and awareness improves greatly. Remember with Jenkins we were questioning whether he was going to beat out Scandrick, but his game elevated to another level after his rook year. Claiborne is going to tear things up next season.

[BIGDen]

Originally Posted by Eskimo

He doesn't look fast enough to be a shutdown type player.

I hope we see more evidence of playmaking ability. He made one INT on a popup and picked up a loose ball for a TD which weren't particularly spectacular plays. The one great play he made in the Chicago game was overruled and then the one he made against the Saints in OT to force the fumble actually worked in the Saints' favour because Jimmy Graham recovered the ball.

He was okay but only played like a late first rounder, not like a top 10 pick. I was quite disappointed after they hyped him as the second best player in the draft (above RG3, Trent Rich, Kalil, Tannehill).

IMO, Wagner outplayed him by a decent margin and Brockers looks like a quality starter at DT that we could badly use next year. The trade also looks like a pretty decent failure at this time. He will have to fulfill his All-Pro type projection to make the deal worthwhile.

This summed it up perfectly IMO.

[theogt]

Originally Posted by Eskimo

He doesn't look fast enough to be a shutdown type player.

I hope we see more evidence of playmaking ability. He made one INT on a popup and picked up a loose ball for a TD which weren't particularly spectacular plays. The one great play he made in the Chicago game was overruled and then the one he made against the Saints in OT to force the fumble actually worked in the Saints' favour because Jimmy Graham recovered the ball.

He was okay but only played like a late first rounder, not like a top 10 pick. I was quite disappointed after they hyped him as the second best player in the draft (above RG3, Trent Rich, Kalil, Tannehill).

IMO, Wagner outplayed him by a decent margin and Brockers looks like a quality starter at DT that we could badly use next year. The trade also looks like a pretty decent failure at this time. He will have to fulfill his All-Pro type projection to make the deal worthwhile.

Neither Brockers nor Wagner would start on this team. Brockers managed a couple sacks each in two games. Otherwise he was piss poor -- yes, that's 14 games of below average DL play. We have plenty of similar types on our team. We're very lucky we managed that trade. Very lucky. Corners like this are very rare.

[dupree89]

I dont have stats to back this up, so I could be absolutely wrong about this...but I got the feeling that he regressed a little toward the end of the season. But, maybe this was just due to all the other injuries on defense....or maybe the grind of his first NFL season wore him down a little.

[Mansta54]

Originally Posted by Jenky

Revis wasn't Revis his first year.

A lot of you are going to eat your own words, cause this kid definitely has it.

Man you're making waaaaay too much sense, that won't go over well around here.

[PullMyFinger]

P. Peterson wasnt that good his first year either, look at his second

[Rynie]

Originally Posted by theogt

Great season for a rookie corner. It's obvious how talented he is.

Exactly. I'm surprised at the negativity on this kid. He's a stud.

[Deep_Freeze]

Originally Posted by Eskimo

He doesn't look fast enough to be a shutdown type player.

I hope we see more evidence of playmaking ability. He made one INT on a popup and picked up a loose ball for a TD which weren't particularly spectacular plays. The one great play he made in the Chicago game was overruled and then the one he made against the Saints in OT to force the fumble actually worked in the Saints' favour because Jimmy Graham recovered the ball.

He was okay but only played like a late first rounder, not like a top 10 pick. I was quite disappointed after they hyped him as the second best player in the draft (above RG3, Trent Rich, Kalil, Tannehill).

IMO, Wagner outplayed him by a decent margin and Brockers looks like a quality starter at DT that we could badly use next year. The trade also looks like a pretty decent failure at this time. He will have to fulfill his All-Pro type projection to make the deal worthwhile.

Wagner proved to be a solid starter and Brockers was an average starter, but neither has the upside to be an All-Pro at a premium position. Top speed is probably his only hole, but it should be obvious how good he can be at such a hard position, rookies usually get abused in this league at the position.

Takes alot of work to be a good CB, hopefully he puts in the work and becomes what we thought he could be cause he definitely has the ability and talent.

[texbumthelife]

Originally Posted by theogt

Great season for a rookie corner. It's obvious how talented he is.

I echo this. The lack of any real safety play behind him coupled with the turnstall at LB really stunted his growth I believe. Although he was primarily a press corner in college, I think he and Church can thrive on one side in a cover two zone. Particularly if Kiffin varies between press and soft zone and uses combo coverages.

[LatinMind]

Originally Posted by perrykemp

Those expectations were set when the Cowboys front office said after they drafted him that they had him as the best CB prospect to enter the NFL in the past 23 years since Deion Sanders entered the league in 1989.

What I am curious about is if the Front Office truly believe that or not. Not sure why would have said it unless they believed it.

I think they said he seemed to have the best skillset of a CB prospect since deion. But everybody was saying that. I think ur trying to push your own version of the truth in there.

[hra8700]

The cowboys thought he was better than mike Jenkins. Check what contract Jenkins gets this offseason and that will be a pretty good measure of how good he was as a rookie.

[perrykemp]

Originally Posted by LatinMind

I think they said he seemed to have the best skillset of a CB prospect since deion. But everybody was saying that. I think ur trying to push your own version of the truth in there.

I don't remember a single other source indicating he was the best since Deion at anything. I only heard that out of Valley Ranch.

What other teams / media / etc did you see that said?