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Old 01-22-2013   #76
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Yea, and neither do you.

6 kids, .. 4 women, .. none his wife, .. I'll stand by what I've said.

Being there for your kids, .. ya , what was I thinking?
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Old 01-22-2013   #77
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Yea, and neither do you.

6 kids, .. 4 women, .. none his wife, .. I'll stand by what I've said.

Being there for your kids, .. ya , what was I thinking?
That's right.. i don't. That's why im not trying to sit here on my high horse and condemn the man. As i said before, all his kids that he's had could be having much better upbringings than you ever had.. you have no clue. Who's to say he's not there for his kids? Not you. You stand by what you said, or backtrack.. either way the fact remains your comments are spawned from ignorance.
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Old 01-22-2013   #78
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Surely you can see the difference between your mother and father, who loved each other, got married, committed to each other, had a child within the framework of that love and marriage, .. and a guy that went around knocking up women and leaving like somebody was keeping score.

Your parents did it the right way, the way that I was talking about. Your father was nothing like Ray Lewis.

It breaks my heart to see divorce, but that is totally different than guys like RL that never marry anyone, only spewing their seed around because they can, without ever committing to the mother.

Not sure how you could read what I wrote and think I was talking about someone like your parents who actually were married and brought you into the world as a product of that love and commitment.
You continue to make a fool of yourself. I can't say how I truly feel about you but you are a piece of work. Please continue to attack people like me when you know nothing about our situation.

Here is a hint, I have a son, lives in another state, I was never married to his mother. Please go to my son and tell him that his father is really just a cool uncle who used to let him play with Army stuff and take him to cool places every now and then. The self righteousness on this site is appalling, the mods really need to get rid of a lot of posters.
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you got it.
people wouldn't be quite as irritated with Ray Lewis for being an accessory to murder were he not so celebrated and enshrined by the media and NFL in general
He is celebrated because he is one the best LBs to ever play the game. He hasn't been in trouble since the fight in Atlanta and to call the deaths of the attackers "murder" is silly. Do cops commit murder when they shoot an armed attacker or is it justice? Sometimes over zealous DAs try to make a career off of a high profile case, like Kobe, Duke lacrosse and yes, Ray Lewis.
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It's good to know I'm the dumbest person posting on the internet.

/Aaargh! I messed that up!

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Okay, think I got it right this time
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Congrats to Welker - she is hot.
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That's right.. i don't. That's why im not trying to sit here on my high horse and condemn the man. As i said before, all his kids that he's had could be having much better upbringings than you ever had.. you have no clue. Who's to say he's not there for his kids? Not you. You stand by what you said, or backtrack.. either way the fact remains your comments are spawned from ignorance.
6 kids from 4 different moms. no way is he there for them like a normal dad would be. That would require santa like capabilities.

be honest, if you meet a women that has 6 kids from 4 different men, you take a low opinion of her decisions.
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6 kids from 4 different moms. no way is he there for them like a normal dad would be. That would require santa like capabilities.

be honest, if you meet a women that has 6 kids from 4 different men, you take a low opinion of her decisions.


It's called the double standard, Bobby.


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That's right.. i don't. That's why im not trying to sit here on my high horse and condemn the man. As i said before, all his kids that he's had could be having much better upbringings than you ever had.. you have no clue. Who's to say he's not there for his kids? Not you. You stand by what you said, or backtrack.. either way the fact remains your comments are spawned from ignorance.
Spawned from truth.
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6 kids from 4 different moms. no way is he there for them like a normal dad would be. That would require santa like capabilities.

be honest, if you meet a women that has 6 kids from 4 different men, you take a low opinion of her decisions.
Not everyone is so fortunate to have a "normal" upbringing, with a mom and a dad in a nice big house with a white picket fence and a puppy. Doesn't mean the children can't be raised properly and have a great life. As i said, the kids could be having a better upbringing than you or me, for all we know. We don't know the nature of the relationships at all, is the point.

I would also imagine when you are famous and are known to have money, that some women would try to throw themselves at you in an attempt to get at some of that money in some way.. its certainly not far fetched imo. When you're young and have money and women are throwing themselves at you, its easy to make mistakes.. no doubt.

Point is.. we don't know the situation, so why pass judgement? Especially on a person who has taken so many steps to turn their life around, and has helped so many needy families and disadvantaged youth with the forture he has been blessed with. Every NFL player has the ability to do alot of charity work and help alot of people.. not many choose to do as much as Ray has done over his career. He also mentors alot of guys on his team and is a leader on that team in every sense of the word.

Like i said before.. i hope he gets his ring, and i hope to heck that someday, somehow, we get a guy like him on this team.
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Spawned from truth.
Exactly.
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Spawned from truth.
Sir, you sound like a Christian man, so am I. I agree with your stance that pre-martial relations and creating children out of wedlock are the result of bad decisions. But where we differ is how we choose to judge him TODAY. Are we not called to forgive? Are we not called to treat others as we would like to be treated?

If you want to judge Ray Lewis, judge him based off the person he is today....not by the person he was yesterday. In this discussion, your morals are sound but your self-righteousness is not. When you condemn this man for what he's did YESTERDAY, when he's done everything within his ability to make amends TODAY, you're saying there is no redemption for anyone who attempts to change. That is not acceptable to me, many of the people who've commented in this discussion, and above all, the source of where your morals lie.
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You continue to make a fool of yourself. I can't say how I truly feel about you but you are a piece of work. Please continue to attack people like me when you know nothing about our situation.

Here is a hint, I have a son, lives in another state, I was never married to his mother. Please go to my son and tell him that his father is really just a cool uncle who used to let him play with Army stuff and take him to cool places every now and then. The self righteousness on this site is appalling, the mods really need to get rid of a lot of posters.
Dude, I'm sorry, but you are the one making a fool of yourself.

You say I attack you, .. I never once mentioned you, never mentioned you & your father, or you & your son. You are the one that brought all of you into this thread. Not me.

I was talking about Ray Lewis, .. I never mentioned you or anyone else.

If you cannot see the difference between one child with one woman, .. and 6 children with four women, .. then you will never get my point.
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Dude, I'm sorry, but you are the one making a fool of yourself.

You say I attack you, .. I never once mentioned you, never mentioned you & your father, or you & your son. You are the one that brought all of you into this thread. Not me.

I was talking about Ray Lewis, .. I never mentioned you or anyone else.

If you cannot see the difference between one child with one woman, .. and 6 children with four women, .. then you will never get my point.
He didn't say you attacked him.. your reading comprehension skills are about on par with your logic, i see.

BTW.. the post above yours that i quoted here.. you should read it. We all get your point, its not complicated.. most just don't agree with you.

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