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01-23-2013
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#16
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Run-loving Dino
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Originally Posted by BAZ
Lets hope Bill doesn't throw the Superbowl when we get to it.
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Ivy League
Jason Garrett offense rank minus Tony Sparano: 18, 14, 7, 15, 15
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01-23-2013
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#17
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Star Power
Joined: | Nov 2004 |
Location: | Potomac, MD |
Posts: | 7,681 |
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Originally Posted by stasheroo
Inconvenient that they've been right on all counts so far...
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They've been right about what has been happening, which anyone who has superficial access to events can see, not about the soap opera interpretation of the said events which is entirely laced with agenda.
Is there any reward for good other than good?
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01-23-2013
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#18
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1st Round Pick
Years Donated 2010, 2011, 2013
Joined: | Apr 2004 |
Posts: | 25,195 |
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Originally Posted by ufcrules1
Wow... I'm agreeing with you more and more lately. I feel the same way about 2013. Mainly because Romo is our QB though. I just know this team can't go anywhere with him leading it. Unless he sees a shrink or something.
Griffinless Washington? Griffin is going to be ready for the 2013 season according to his doctors anyway.
Keep in mind Washington also had a 30th ranked passing defense last year and 27th overall on defense. They have a ton of holes. Griffin and Morris were able to hide those. Not sure that will be the case in 2013 though.
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I just see Washington kind of being like our 2007 team the year Wade Phillips took over.
They'll have a ton of confidence if Griffin is playing at a high level.
I think they are at that stage where they are expecting things to go right for them as opposed to the Cowboys expecting something to go wrong.
I don't think they are that much better than us, if at all, but with the coaching and confidence they have I like their chances better than us if RG3 is ready. (which I don't think he will be. Even if he is out there on the field)
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01-23-2013
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#19
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Senior Member
Joined: | Feb 2009 |
Location: | Chicago |
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Here is what bugs me about all of this as a fan. I'm not a Garrett fan and think he hasn't been up to the task. BUT if you're going to keep the guy, don't waste a season just to prove your point. Either fire him or give him what he thinks he needs to win and let him make his own success or failure. Right now, I feel like 2013 will be a waste because the minute we lose some of the early games the lynch mob will be out.....already were. Unless we go on a major run I feel like 2013 is set up to fail vs at least giving the guy a chance. I'm not a Garrett fan but I'd rather eat crow with him doing it a certain way than setting him up for failure.
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01-23-2013
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#20
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Senior Member
Joined: | May 2005 |
Posts: | 312 |
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Callahan had the first losing season at Nebraska in over 40 years, and this was with top ranked recruiting classes. BC is gonna make us wish we had the red headed genius back as play caller......2013 is gonna be ugly, don't bother buying a ticket...think of the money you'll save.....
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01-23-2013
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#21
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Senior Member
Joined: | Apr 2004 |
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I just don't get it - Red doesnt want to give up playcalling despite the ample evidence that he can't manage game situations - to say nothing of the suspect playcalling he does do. It's bad enough that Red can't handle this reality but then Jerry has to negotiate with him ? Jerry cannot get an OC from the outside with head coaching experience - and we have to keep using Red's system - because Red says so ? This is lunacy. Jerry sees the problem and wants to make the change but has to accept these conditions from the person who he is demoting ? And why Red wants to stay the head coach under these conditions is anyones guess...maybe because he will never smell another head coaching gig again.
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01-23-2013
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#22
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1st Round Pick
Years Donated 2010, 2011, 2013
Joined: | Apr 2004 |
Posts: | 25,195 |
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Originally Posted by HoustonFrog
Here is what bugs me about all of this as a fan. I'm not a Garrett fan and think he hasn't been up to the task. BUT if you're going to keep the guy, don't waste a season just to prove your point. Either fire him or give him what he thinks he needs to win and let him make his own success or failure. Right now, I feel like 2013 will be a waste because the minute we lose some of the early games the lynch mob will be out.....already were. Unless we go on a major run I feel like 2013 is set up to fail vs at least giving the guy a chance. I'm not a Garrett fan but I'd rather eat crow with him doing it a certain way than setting him up for failure.
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Jerry doesn't put a high priority on coaching, safeties, & offensive and Defensive linemen.
He doesn't want to pay Garrett 4 Mill to sit at home. That's why he didn't overhaul a lot of the staff.
I'm sure Mike Zimmer will take over in 2014 and then Jerry will use that money he saved on a quality offensive coordinator at that point.
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01-23-2013
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#23
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iPhotoshop
Joined: | Mar 2005 |
Posts: | 5,685 |
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Originally Posted by perrykemp
One sentence in the article stood out:
"Regardless, Garrett has both been emasculated and placed on notice."
My immediate thought in how often I am hearing that term ("emasculated") lately as it relates to JG. Can't be a good thing.
I get the feeling that JG is the recipient of pity from the rest of the NFL coaching brotherhood -- OR scorn for being a push-over.
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Of course Garretts on notice. He's had back to back 8-8 season. Jerry tried it his way in letting him do everything. That didnt work nothing wrong with it, its just a different approach for the betterment of the DALLAS COWBOYS. Because thats what its about, the Cowboys. Not Garrett and not any one person in the organization.
All of you eat away at these media hacks like florio like what he writes is scripture when it involves Jerry but call him a hack in every other instance.
Get this through your heads. Jerry isnt going anywhere. The sooner you accept this you will quit crying, being miserable and just realize that this team is going to go where ever it is they go. Nothing you or I or anybody else is going to change that. So you can either accept the process and atmosphere in Dallas or you can just go root for another team. Plain and simple.
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01-23-2013
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#24
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Senior Member
Joined: | Mar 2006 |
Posts: | 15,407 |
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Originally Posted by SultanOfSix
They've been right about what has been happening, which anyone who has superficial access to events can see, not about the soap opera interpretation of the said events which is entirely laced with agenda.
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So it was in fact Garrett's idea to tell his brother to look for work?
It was Garrett's idea to give up playcalling?
Rather than blame the big bad media for an inconvenient truth, I think fans should look at themselves and ask if they're simply covering their eyes and choosing not to see what's being played out right in front of them.
"I don't understand it Stephen, it's opening day 2014, where is everybody?"
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01-23-2013
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#25
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Star Power
Joined: | Nov 2004 |
Location: | Potomac, MD |
Posts: | 7,681 |
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Originally Posted by stasheroo
So it was in fact Garrett's idea to tell his brother to look for work?
It was Garrett's idea to give up playcalling?
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How do you know otherwise? How do you know things aren't mutually discussed and then agreed upon in said circles? Because the media says so? Where is their proof that this went down this way or that? The media's interpretation of said events?
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Rather than blame the big bad media for an inconvenient truth,
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The sports media's job is to entertain their readers and sell papers.
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I think fans should look at themselves and ask if they're simply covering their eyes and choosing not to see what's being played out right in front of them.
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Confirmation bias goes both ways.
Is there any reward for good other than good?
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01-23-2013
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#26
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Senior Member
Joined: | Aug 2009 |
Location: | 30 yardline |
Posts: | 2,761 |
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BAZ
Lets hope Bill doesn't throw the Superbowl when we get to it.
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I'm sure Bill wont be around when this team gets to the Superbowl again, hell I might not be either 
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01-23-2013
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#27
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Inconceivable!
Joined: | Mar 2005 |
Location: | Virginia |
Posts: | 3,707 |
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This was probably the least crazy and circus-like solution to this crazy plan because he knows the playbook and this won't overly undermine JG's authority. He can add a few plays here and there and be, hopefully, more creative and broad in his play selection.
But it's still kind of crazy if you ask me.
The truth almost always lies somewhere in between...
Except on CZ.
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01-23-2013
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#28
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iPhotoshop
Joined: | Mar 2005 |
Posts: | 5,685 |
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Originally Posted by fanfromvirginia
This was probably the least crazy and circus-like solution to this crazy plan because he knows the playbook and this won't overly undermine JG's authority. He can add a few plays here and there and be, hopefully, more creative and broad in his play selection.
But it's still kind of crazy if you ask me.
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Crazier then when parcells stripped payton from calling plays in the middle of the season?
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01-23-2013
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#29
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Senior Member
Joined: | Feb 2009 |
Location: | Chicago |
Posts: | 1,310 |
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CATCH17
Jerry doesn't put a high priority on coaching, safeties, & offensive and Defensive linemen.
He doesn't want to pay Garrett 4 Mill to sit at home. That's why he didn't overhaul a lot of the staff.
I'm sure Mike Zimmer will take over in 2014 and then Jerry will use that money he saved on a quality offensive coordinator at that point.
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Agree with what he does...just don't like seeing a season wasted if it is due to not getting the right pieces when possible. Oh well, this should be an interesting season.
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01-23-2013
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#30
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Senior Member
Joined: | Nov 2008 |
Posts: | 913 |
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Does this seem like the same process Wade Phillips went through his last year? From an outsider's perspective, it seems like Jerry will always replace assistant's first, to give the HC a chance, but somehow(media spin) it ends up coming off as cutting the coach off at the knees.
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