Jerry needs to send a message

[Risen Star]

Originally Posted by Zordon

well i guess that's where we differ b/c ive never bought into that RKG crap. this team has been mostly choir boys for many years, what has that led us to? a discplined team? no. a smart team? no. a team that plays with emotion? no. if we lose the RKG label, so be it.

I've never much liked it either. Seems like a hollow title you can slap on a guy to justify a personnel decision. It's nothing you can see, but trust me....this is the right kind of guy.

My right kind of guy plays well on the field.

[LatinMind]

Originally Posted by Zordon

so lets say he cuts ratliff today but still keeps up his meddling ways, ignores the trenches, and continues the circus atmosphere throughout the offseason. what exactly has he done?

Only circus being portrayed is by fans. alot of media and nfl people like what he's doing.

[LatinMind]

Originally Posted by Risen Star

You know what would be even better?

If Jason Garrett had the power to make that call.

Lets be honest. Jason Garrett isnt good enough experienced enough to make these kinds of calls. Thats why teams have a GM.

Granted i wouldnt cry if Garrett came out and blasted him, but fans calling out garrett saying he doesnt know how to game manage a team but then want him to have final say over cutting a player is bogus.

[Risen Star]

Originally Posted by LatinMind

Lets be honest. Jason Garrett isnt good enough experienced enough to make these kinds of calls. Thats why teams have a GM.

Granted i wouldnt cry if Garrett came out and blasted him, but fans calling out garrett saying he doesnt know how to game manage a team but then want him to have final say over cutting a player is bogus.

There are a couple of things wrong with your response.

1, I've never said Garrett doesn't know how to manage a game.

2, if my choice is Garrett or a complete buffoon like Jerry Jones making this call, I'll take the inexperienced Garrett.

Jimmy would have made this call. Parcells would have made this call. The only time the Cowboys have ever improved under Jerry's ownership is when the head coach has the power to make this call.

[justbob]

Do not turn this into a bash Jerry ,Jason ain't the boss thread.

[LatinMind]

Originally Posted by Risen Star

There are a couple of things wrong with your response.

1, I've never said Garrett doesn't know how to manage a game.

2, if my choice is Garrett or a complete buffoon like Jerry Jones making this call, I'll take the inexperienced Garrett.

Jimmy would have made this call. Parcells would have made this call. The only time the Cowboys have ever improved under Jerry's ownership is when the head coach has the power to make this call.

Just cause i quote you doesnt mean im talking specifically about you. But alot of people share this view.

Parcells didnt have as much power as many think. Broaddus and Eatman talk about this in their show from time to time.

[LatinMind]

Originally Posted by justbob

Do not turn this into a bash Jerry ,Jason ain't the boss thread.

Lol exactly. It goes from hoping Jerry makes the best decision for the team, to Jason is a puppet quickly

[Risen Star]

Originally Posted by AMERICAS_FAN

No, Jerry needs to spend more time in Tampa occupying himself with business matters and leaving football matters for his coaches and scouts to handle.

The one good thing about releasing Ratliff is it would pretty much force the Cowboys to make a move for a top DT. Whether FA or the draft.

That is desperately needed with or without Ratliff.

[Zimmy Lives]

Bottom line is this is a business. Ratliff is an asset. Ratliff's offense, disappointing as it is, is not a despicable act warranting admonition and termination of employment.

It would be a bad business decision to release him without giving him an opportunity to redeem himself. Let him go to camp and fight for a job; until someone better comes along the Cowboys need Jay Ratliff to produce.

[Risen Star]

Originally Posted by Zimmy Lives

Bottom line is this is a business. Ratliff is an asset. Ratliff's offense, disappointing as it is, is not a despicable act warranting admonition and termination of employment.

It would be a bad business decision to release him without giving him an opportunity to redeem himself. Let him go to camp and fight for a job; until someone better comes along the Cowboys need Jay Ratliff to produce.

Whether people like it or not, it comes down to production. Jimmy has said he was consistent in being inconsistent. If a 3rd string QB falls asleep in a meeting, he's gone. If it's Troy Aikman, you wake him up and tell him to pay attention.

Ratliff has not been productive for 3 years. I don't think he qualifies any longer as a guy who should get special treatment for his play on the field.

[LatinMind]

Originally Posted by Zimmy Lives

Bottom line is this is a business. Ratliff is an asset. Ratliff's offense, disappointing as it is, is not a despicable act warranting admonition and termination of employment.

It would be a bad business decision to release him without giving him an opportunity to redeem himself. Let him go to camp and fight for a job; until someone better comes along the Cowboys need Jay Ratliff to produce.

When you have a fresh incident just a couple months away it is a despicable act. And can be viewed as detrimental to the team. This just shows that Ratliff isnt putting the team first. Plain and simple.

I guess ill just have to wait until the start of the new football yr to see if he will be cut. I have a feeling he will be. And ill be happy. Its funny how keeping Ratliff is viewed as a positive because theres nobody better at the moment, while its been documented by teammates the guy is a hothead. But a player who was viewed by his teammates as a good teammate was run out of Dallas in Owens. Same kind of situation. Dallas had nobody better. But it was the right choice. As in in this case, they might not have anybody better at the moment, but it would be the best choice to get him out of Dallas. A Cancer is a Cancer

[justbob]

In case you missed it the first time.


Do not turn this into a bash Jerry ,Jason ain't the boss thread.

Stay on thread ... There are plenty of bash JG, bash JJ threads out there. I'm not going to delete everything before but no more.

[Zimmy Lives]

Originally Posted by Risen Star

I know there was a report recently that representatives of MADD are going to come in and talk to the players about the dangers of drunk driving.

Sad that it would be needed, but hey.

It is sad that ANYONE could not have the reasoning ability to determine right from wrong actions. Athletes as entertainers, however, are under intense scrutiny and are judged more severely than the average citizen. Its the nature of their celebrity status.

[Doomsay]

Regardless of propriety, it would seem that we need to look beyond our two tackles due to age wear and availability considerations (incarceration), for the '13 season. Literally, a big hole to fill.

[LatinMind]

Originally Posted by Doomsay

Regardless of propriety, it would seem that we need to look beyond our two tackles due to age wear and availability considerations (incarceration), for the '13 season. Literally, a big hole to fill.

Me personally i think Hatcher can replace Ratliff easily. I do think Dallas needs another tackle anyways. Sylvester Williams in round 2 would do it for me.