Talkin' Cowboys 1/25

[LatinMind]

* After 5 yrs of running the offense, the change for Garrett is better for the team. Gives him a better sense of the game and can communicate with his coordinators. Get more in tune with the game and be more involved with the game as a whole instead of just focus on the offense.

Better game manager than a play caller.

GM(Jerry) helping Garrett become a better HC, rather than making him a puppet.

* If Garrett fails, these coaches would make a case for Lovie Smith rather than gruden.

* Caller on Safety: Ballhawk in draft.
In this scheme, the safety rotates 1 up and 1 down. S does need range. And has to be able to lay a hit.

* Wr coach will be the tricky hire. Because you need a coach who will continue the growth and development of Dez Bryant.

* Email: Bacarri Rambo, off the field problems. Brought up "the box" that was the category from the parcells era players with off the field problems were put in. Not a good thing. Probably will not be on the board for the Cowboys.

* Ratliff, he is not a rookie. He should know better. Dont know how you can preach culture change in Dallas but let Ratliff stay on the team.

* Caller: healthy Coale, or healthy beasley? Beasley will be part of the mix in the WR core. Coale, havent had time to show it.

Beasley one trick pony.

Coale can do more things but has to be healthy.

* Mickeys view on Garrett change: Every guy they changed they improved. Sometimes players stop listening to posistion coaches. Garrett had say in choosing the def coaches. Offensive change was pretty much put on him by Jerry. Going with Callahan is a better choice then going with somebody outside the organization.

* Westhoff probably not a candidate because as Broaddus said " he's tired of what the NFL has become"

* Email: Margus Hunt? The first day he played LDe and struggled, no quickness. Went to RDE played better. But his height limits him.

* Wr Swoop, good athlete guy who was on the end of alot of Manziel's long plays.

* Austin Miles, seems Dallas is at the point where they say we're not going to extend restructure. either going to play or cut ties.

[RS12]

* If Garrett fails, these coaches would make a case for Lovie Smith rather than gruden.

Except the strong trend in the NFL nowadays is to hire offensive HC's which is why I dont necessarily see Lovie after Garrett.

[Gaede]

Great recap, thanks for doing all of these BTW.

[ScipioCowboy]

Originally Posted by LatinMind

* Mickeys view on Garrett change: Every guy they changed they improved. Sometimes players stop listening to posistion coaches. Garrett had say in choosing the def coaches. Offensive change was pretty much put on him by Jerry. Going with Callahan is a better choice then going with somebody outside the organization.

Mickey said that?

Yikes. Babe is right. It may be very difficult for Garrett to convince the players he's still in charge.

[RGKN33]

Originally Posted by LatinMind

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* Email: Bacarri Rambo, off the field problems. Brought up "the box" that was the category from the parcells era players with off the field problems were put in. Not a good thing. Probably will not be on the board for the Cowboys.

* Ratliff, he is not a rookie. He should know better. Dont know how you can preach culture change in Dallas but let Ratliff stay on the team.

What a joke how we pass talent(in general) year to year because of character but then bring back ratliff .
It has to be one way or another no exceptions .

Talking out two sides of one mouth !

[LatinMind]

Originally Posted by ScipioCowboy

Mickey said that?

Yikes. Babe is right. It may be very difficult for Garrett to convince the players he's still in charge.

Why? He basically said Garrett got the guys he wanted on the def side. But Jerry did want the change in play calling. It wasnt working and hasnt been working. Its not like this is the norm in the NFL HC overseeing everything and the coordinators preparing the game plans.

[Chocolate Lab]

Jerry: "You want Monte Kiffin as DC, right, Jason?"

Jason: "Yes sir."

[LatinMind]

Originally Posted by Chocolate Lab

Jerry: "You want Monte Kiffin as DC, right, Jason?"

Jason: "Yes sir."

do you go in every thread bashing Jerry?

[Chocolate Lab]

No, I don't.

And you shouldn't take everything as a "bash". I'm glad Jerry is doing this. I'd rather he fired his project and brought in someone better, but I very much prefer these changes to leaving everything the same as it was last year and hoping things get better.

If I was bashing anything, it was the idea that these are all Garrett moves and Jerry is just rubber stamping them. Which some have been claiming.

[1fisher]

Originally Posted by LatinMind

do you go in every thread bashing Jerry?

Of course.....that's the new norm around here.

[Wolfpack]

Originally Posted by ScipioCowboy

Mickey said that?

Yikes. Babe is right. It may be very difficult for Garrett to convince the players he's still in charge.

Ouch..if the mouthpiece is now saying such things, the leash is very short at this point.

[Gaede]

Originally Posted by RGKN33

What a joke how we pass talent(in general) year to year because of character but then bring back ratliff .
It has to be one way or another no exceptions .

Talking out two sides of one mouth !

That's an excellent point.

Someone who was drunk driving and even killed someone was allowed to come and watch the games (at least until people looked down on that).

Only once you become part of the country club are you allowed to drive drunk, do drugs and kill people.

But if you're a rookie who smoked some dope when you were 20, you're bad news.

[SDCowboy85]

Originally Posted by RS12

Except the strong trend in the NFL nowadays is to hire offensive HC's which is why I dont necessarily see Lovie after Garrett.

True, but both HC's in the current super bowl are defensive coaches. Go figure.

[RS12]

Originally Posted by SDCowboy85

True, but both HC's in the current super bowl are defensive coaches. Go figure.

Jim Harbaugh was an NFL QB and QB coach, John Harbaugh was a ST coach, so what are you talking about?

[ScipioCowboy]

Originally Posted by LatinMind

Why? He basically said Garrett got the guys he wanted on the def side. But Jerry did want the change in play calling. It wasnt working and hasnt been working. Its not like this is the norm in the NFL HC overseeing everything and the coordinators preparing the game plans.

Players aren't stupid. They know who's ultimately in charge because they see the name on their checks, regardless of whether it's Jerry Jones or, say, Robert Kraft. Consequently, players on every team around the league know who the ultimate authority is -- the owner of the team.

However, there's a difference between an owner who says to his coach, "As far as the players and your staff are concerned, your word is law. As long as you work for me, I will completely support whatever decision you make. When I no longer like your decisions, I'll fire you and we'll move on" and another owner who says, "I'm going to force personnel decisions on you."

The first type of owner creates in an environment in which players are accountable solely to the coach. The second type of owner creates an ambiguous power structure in which lines of communication are unclear and head coaches lack the authority to control their teams.