Tired of hearing Garrett losing power / Gruden on the Way - Dallas Cowboys Forum

Sandman · 01-25-2013

I am so damn tired of hearing this. Jason is STILL the HEAD COACH! Now he can focus on beng the HEAD COACH! Now he will have more influence on the WHOLE team because he can be a HEAD COACH! Every SB wining Cowboys coach DID NOT call plays. Please shut up about Garrett losing power, he is actually gaining it. Ask Jimmy Johnson what he thinks - this is the best move for Jason and the COWBOYS! Jerrah got it right but people read to Yahoo news to believe what they know is true, this is a goos move for Cowboys!

BTW- Jason will be the coach of the Cowboys for the next 10 years, not because of Jerry but because of Stephen Jones. Gruden doesnt fit with Cowboys and would will be a terrible hire.

xwalker · 01-25-2013

The Gruden rumor might be the dumbest of all the Jerry related stories over the years.

It is amazing that people believe that an owner would plan out the coaching staff a year in advance of hiring the head coach. That would indicate that Jerry is planning on 2013 being a losing season.

Love him or hate him, people just have not been paying attention if they think Jerry plans on losing. He just does not think in those terms.

The 2nd thing is that Jerry wouldn't put that type of effort into getting a Head Coach. He does not place that high of a value on them. IMO, he believes that the assistants and coordinators do all of the work.

The 3rd reason is that Jerry would not want a media-popular HC. It's like Parcells not a wanting a Celebrity QB.

jason54858 · 01-25-2013

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Originally Posted by Sandman

I am so damn tired of hearing this. Jason is STILL the HEAD COACH! Now he can focus on beng the HEAD COACH! Now he will have more influence on the WHOLE team because he can be a HEAD COACH! Every SB wining Cowboys coach DID NOT call plays. Please shut up about Garrett losing power, he is actually gaining it. Ask Jimmy Johnson what he thinks - this is the best move for Jason and the COWBOYS! Jerrah got it right but people read to Yahoo news to believe what they know is true, this is a goos move for Cowboys!

BTW- Jason will be the coach of the Cowboys for the next 10 years, not because of Jerry but because of Stephen Jones. Gruden doesnt fit with Cowboys and would will be a terrible hire.

Garrett wont last past next season IMO fwiw

Aven8 · 01-25-2013

SilverStarCowboy · 01-25-2013

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Originally Posted by Sandman

I am so damn tired of hearing this. Jason is STILL the HEAD COACH! Now he can focus on beng the HEAD COACH! Now he will have more influence on the WHOLE team because he can be a HEAD COACH! Every SB wining Cowboys coach DID NOT call plays. Please shut up about Garrett losing power, he is actually gaining it. Ask Jimmy Johnson what he thinks - this is the best move for Jason and the COWBOYS! Jerrah got it right but people read to Yahoo news to believe what they know is true, this is a goos move for Cowboys!

BTW- Jason will be the coach of the Cowboys for the next 10 years, not because of Jerry but because of Stephen Jones. Gruden doesnt fit with Cowboys and would will be a terrible hire.

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jason54858 · 01-25-2013

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Originally Posted by xwalker

The Gruden rumor might be the dumbest of all the Jerry related statements over the years.

Agreed

The Quest for Six · 01-25-2013

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Originally Posted by jason54858

Garrett wont last past next season IMO fwiw

I agree....might as well fire him now, Jerry pretty much neutered him in the eyes of the players by the moves thus far...

The Natural · 01-25-2013

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Originally Posted by Sandman

BTW- Jason will be the coach of the Cowboys for the next 10 years

PA Cowboy Fan · 01-25-2013

Gruden might not be coming but there's no doubt that Garretts lost what little power he had with the team. This coming season is a make or break season for him. I always wanted him to be just a head coach but it had to be his choice.

Yakuza Rich · 01-25-2013

I never understood the theory that if Garrett isn't calling plays, then he shouldn't be the head coach. Most head coaches in the league don't call plays. The JOB for Garrett is to win games and win a Super Bowl. I wouldn't care who is calling plays if that happened.

Then you have people here who have called for Garrett to give up his playcalling and once that happens...they say that Garrett lost all of his power.

YR

junk · 01-25-2013

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Originally Posted by Yakuza Rich

I never understood the theory that if Garrett isn't calling plays, then he shouldn't be the head coach. Most head coaches in the league don't call plays. The JOB for Garrett is to win games and win a Super Bowl. I wouldn't care who is calling plays if that happened.

Then you have people here who have called for Garrett to give up his playcalling and once that happens...they say that Garrett lost all of his power.

YR

It is the right move, but.....it is odd. I think I posted something along those lines prior to all the coaching changes. I just wish they had brought in someone from the outside and turned over more of the offensive staff.

I don't think the Gruden thing is a possibility, but I am curious why they decided the Tampa 2 was the way they wanted to go. I'm sure the Chicago game might have had some influence, but it seems like an odd transition.

jason54858 · 01-25-2013

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Originally Posted by Yakuza Rich

I never understood the theory that if Garrett isn't calling plays, then he shouldn't be the head coach. Most head coaches in the league don't call plays. The JOB for Garrett is to win games and win a Super Bowl. I wouldn't care who is calling plays if that happened.

Then you have people here who have called for Garrett to give up his playcalling and once that happens...they say that Garrett lost all of his power.

YR

I think people understand there are many HCs who don't call plays. Garrett not calling the plays is not the issue. The issue is it appears Jerry made the call to strip the play calling duties from Garrett. If this is indeed what happened then it compromises Garrett's authority.

SilverStarCowboy · 01-25-2013

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Originally Posted by jason54858

I think people understand there are many HCs who don't call plays. Garrett not calling the plays is not the issue. The issue is it appears Jerry made the call to strip the play calling duties from Garrett. If this is indeed what happened then it compromises Garrett's authority.

Most everything that comes out of his mouth compromises any authority other than his own.

Chocolate Lab · 01-25-2013

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Originally Posted by jason54858

I think people understand there are many HCs who don't call plays. Garrett not calling the plays is not the issue. The issue is it appears Jerry made the call to strip the play calling duties from Garrett. If this is indeed what happened then it compromises Garrett's authority.

Yep, should be pretty obvious.

Did anyone hear Greg Ellis on the Fan about half an hour ago? They asked him about these very things. He said the players do pay attention to things like this (Jerry making coaching hires and stripping playcalling) and they do realize that Jerry is the one in charge. And he said that did affect the team at times, though he didn't give specifics.

But he said everyone just had to realize that was the way things were here and play anyway.

**Idgit** · 01-25-2013

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Originally Posted by SilverStarCowboy

Most everything that comes out of his mouth compromises any authority other than his own.

Yeah, JG really limits himself when he opens his mouth. Good point.