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01-26-2013
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#76
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Shrinkage
Years Donated 2007, 2008, 2010, 2011, 2012
Joined: | Dec 2005 |
Location: | Dallas |
Posts: | 34,624 |
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Originally Posted by SkinsandTerps
It's not the always numbers. It's the wins. The impact, the leadership.
Aikman was a leader, he was not the best as far as overall numbers, but he led his team along with Irvin (Emmitt was just behind them to me).
They won games. They motivated. They at times dominated.
What was it that Parcells says about your record ?
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If you had asked Aikman to throw it 50 plus times a game, he would've shattered records.
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01-26-2013
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#77
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Convicted of Gnostical Turpitude
Joined: | Jan 2007 |
Location: | Gatesville, Texa |
Posts: | 11,850 |
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SkinsandTerps
I would say he does leave the team. Yes.
Perhaps to San Fran among one team when that time comes.
I call it like I see it...the team including coaches, and Romo...failed him equally. You have a weapon like that you take advantage of it...even if it is just as a decoy.
And this is certainly not because I am a Redskins fan. That is just your spin...which is towards being simply homer, not open minded or looking at all the variables.
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Oh, yeah.
That's how Risen Star is known around there parts -- a super homer.
Dude, quit while you're behind.
"Many of the greatest things man has achieved are not the result of consciously directed thought, and still less the product of a deliberately coordinated effort of many individuals, but of a process in which the individual plays a part which he can never fully understand." - Friedrich Hayek
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01-26-2013
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#78
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Senior Member
Joined: | Jan 2006 |
Posts: | 14,759 |
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ScipioCowboy
Oh, yeah.
That's how Risen Star is known around there parts -- a super homer.
Dude, quit while you're behind.
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That's me. I just can't criticize a Cowboy.
Hey, I thought Dez was slighted but once I read this thread and Percy broke it down for me, clearly he was majorly snubbed. I don't know why anyone would have a problem with that. Despite all the excuses, Dez is the only guy to put up those numbers and get past over by so many with lesser stats.
Do I care? No. It doesn't define him as a player. But was he snubbed like no other at his position in the history of the voting? Apparently so.
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We'll settle this with a good dust up.
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01-26-2013
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#79
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Senior Member
Joined: | May 2008 |
Posts: | 134 |
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after this season he'll be voted pro bowl pretty much every time her breaks 1k imo
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01-26-2013
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#80
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Redskins Forever
Joined: | Apr 2004 |
Posts: | 7,295 |
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Risen Star
I didn't realize that.
We'll mark him down for 2 touchdowns that year then.
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haha. I am not against Dez being in. Perhaps you will get that soon.
Along with the others that posted after you.
The main point is...it doesn't matter. Shut the naysayers up.
Monk at retirement was one of if not THE best WR to ever play the game. Same can not be said for other WRs that some of you guys even complain about not getting in. To me Gary Clark should be in the Redskins hall of fame, not the NFL hall of fame.
It's that simple.
The Pro Bowl vote is garbage, the stats are pointless, and it all comes down to who likes who...same as now in some aspects with the HOF.
Scipio, I never said "super homer"...not at all. Perhaps both of you need to step back have a Dr. Pepper...and re-read what I wrote.
Clove, He would have lasted 4 years back then. Today...I agree he probably would have.
Again, that 1300 and 12...not telling the whole story. Stats are not the end all. Same as a QB rating.
Watch the games not the stats.
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Originally Posted by AbeBeta
Results are facts. What if is fantasy. Teams pay for facts.
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01-26-2013
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#81
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Redskins Forever
Joined: | Apr 2004 |
Posts: | 7,295 |
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Going to bed guys. I have a good reason.
This is interesting however. I will get back to it. Thanks.
Have a good night.
Quote:
Originally Posted by AbeBeta
Results are facts. What if is fantasy. Teams pay for facts.
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01-26-2013
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#82
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Convicted of Gnostical Turpitude
Joined: | Jan 2007 |
Location: | Gatesville, Texa |
Posts: | 11,850 |
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SkinsandTerps
Scipio, I never said "super homer"...not at all. Perhaps both of you need to step back have a Dr. Pepper...and re-read what I wrote.
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Whether you said homer or super homer is irrelevant. Either is still absurd given the person with whom you're debating.
"Many of the greatest things man has achieved are not the result of consciously directed thought, and still less the product of a deliberately coordinated effort of many individuals, but of a process in which the individual plays a part which he can never fully understand." - Friedrich Hayek
Last edited by ScipioCowboy : 01-26-2013 at 11:47 PM.
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01-26-2013
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#83
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Messenger to the football Gods
Joined: | Feb 2005 |
Posts: | 10,195 |
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God help us. Players are faking a hang nail to not play in the probowl. Now we have athletes snubbed? Direct your efforts to Hallmark for inventing Valentines Day. I got your back.
AS: Cowboys ice their own kicker in 19-13 OT loss
“That is one of the luxuries of my position as owner as well as the ultimate decision maker, general manager and president – I can do that and take the losses and come back for more,” Jones said.
God help us...............
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01-26-2013
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#84
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Formerly sm0kie13 ROY
Joined: | Jan 2009 |
Posts: | 3,574 |
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thanks for the numbers percy. and to skinsandterps, if you think Jerry is gonna let this shiny toy get away you are sadly mistaking. short of some kind os massive implosion on the sidelines or off the field, he is gonna be on this team for quite a while.
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01-27-2013
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#85
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Banned
Joined: | Oct 2008 |
Posts: | 1,253 |
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 5Stars
Now your getting the picture! The pro bowl is a gimmick, a dog and pony show, a flag football game, a meaningless game that does not even provide entertainment unless people just like to see the cheerleaders.

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You haven't watched the Pro Bowl in the last 20 years you have ZERO credibility judging the Pro Bowl
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01-27-2013
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#86
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Senior Member
Joined: | Mar 2010 |
Posts: | 2,584 |
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I wouldn't call it the "biggest Pro Bowl snub of all time," but yes, Dez definitely deserved to be in and wasn't selected.
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Random observation: Every single division in the NFL contains at least one team that has appeared in a Super Bowl but never won one.
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01-27-2013
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#87
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Senior Member
Joined: | Jan 2011 |
Location: | Washington DC |
Posts: | 657 |
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It is a fan vote. Obviously the fans were more off-put by his past off-field shenanigans more than they are enamored by his on-field accomplishments. Simple as that.
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01-27-2013
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#88
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Senior Member
Joined: | Jan 2011 |
Location: | Washington DC |
Posts: | 657 |
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Quote:
Originally Posted by IAMKING
You haven't watched the Pro Bowl in the last 20 years you have ZERO credibility judging the Pro Bowl
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You can read the box score/news, watch highlights, etc. without watching the game. I don't watch the game either but I know it is a joke. Credibility intact.
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01-27-2013
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#89
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Senior Member
Joined: | Jan 2006 |
Posts: | 14,759 |
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JustDezIt
thanks for the numbers percy. and to skinsandterps, if you think Jerry is gonna let this shiny toy get away you are sadly mistaking. short of some kind os massive implosion on the sidelines or off the field, he is gonna be on this team for quite a while.
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You said it. There's next to no chance he leaves unless the Cowboys want him to leave.
That's wishful thinking on his part.
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We'll settle this with a good dust up.
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01-27-2013
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#90
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Senior Member
Joined: | Jan 2006 |
Posts: | 14,759 |
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SkinsandTerps
haha. I am not against Dez being in. Perhaps you will get that soon.
Along with the others that posted after you.
The main point is...it doesn't matter. Shut the naysayers up.
Monk at retirement was one of if not THE best WR to ever play the game. Same can not be said for other WRs that some of you guys even complain about not getting in. To me Gary Clark should be in the Redskins hall of fame, not the NFL hall of fame.
It's that simple.
The Pro Bowl vote is garbage, the stats are pointless, and it all comes down to who likes who...same as now in some aspects with the HOF.
Scipio, I never said "super homer"...not at all. Perhaps both of you need to step back have a Dr. Pepper...and re-read what I wrote.
Clove, He would have lasted 4 years back then. Today...I agree he probably would have.
[View Full Quote]Again, that 1300 and 12...not telling the whole story. Stats are not the end all. Same as a QB rating.
Watch the games not the stats.
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I agree that pro bowl voting is a joke. Percy just provided proof of how bad it was in Dez's case. That's all we're saying here.
Would I as a Cowboys fan like to see Dez get that recognition? Of course. But it doesn't define him as a player. Just give me more seasons like this last one.
He deserved the criticism when he got in trouble. He deserves some praise for the way he stepped up this year.
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We'll settle this with a good dust up.
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