PFF ranks Cowboys OL #22

[Phoenix]

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blo...fensive-lines/


Ranking the 2012 Offensive Lines

Khaled Elsayed | 2013/01/28


22. Dallas Cowboys (15)

PB – 26th, RB – 8th, PEN – 32nd
Stud: Never let us say we can’t be wrong. Nate Livings (+11.3) had his most consistent year as a pro in Dallas, making a mark with his run blocking.


Dud: It may be time to admit that signing Doug Free (-10.1) long-term just hasn’t worked out. There were too many games where he was taken to the woodshed by explosive defensive ends.


Summary: The Cowboys have put some money into their line recently, but the return just wasn’t there in 2012. Tyron Smith had an at times awkward first year at left tackle, while Mackenzy Bernadeau gave up too much pressure for an interior linemen. There is talent here, but like a lot of spots in Dallas you don’t always see it.








...posting this just because I want to cause brain hemorrhaging with the PFF haters bwaaa ha ha



(pass block - 26, run block - 8, penalties - dead last, 15th ranked last year)

[CyberB0b]

I don't see how you can determine the Cowboys were #8 in run blocking, using any type of metric.

[unionjack8]

Originally Posted by CyberB0b

I don't see how you can determine the Cowboys were #8 in run blocking, using any type of metric.

agreed, a 3.6 avg and 8 tds says that PFF are useless.

[CATCH17]

Originally Posted by CyberB0b

I don't see how you can determine the Cowboys were #8 in run blocking, using any type of metric.

May have something to do with our low amount of runs.

[Titleist]

PB – 26th, RB – 8th, PEN – 32nd
Stud: Never let us say we can’t be wrong. Nate Livings (+11.3) had his most consistent year as a pro in Dallas, making a mark with his run blocking.

Wow, Nate must have been god-awful in Cincinnati. No wonder they wanted him gone.

[theebs]

Originally Posted by CyberB0b

I don't see how you can determine the Cowboys were #8 in run blocking, using any type of metric.

Yep.

The reason I think everyone should have been removed from there jobs including Jerry, Stephen and ciskowski is because of what they have done with the running game.

Its not up to nfl standards and the qb and skill positions are way too good to be this poor running the football.

Its completely unacceptable and just saying murray was hurt does not cut it for me.

They built it, they should pay the price for it.

"you may not be responsible but you will be held accountable" applies here in regards to the running game.

it should have been the catalyst to make real changes like other organizations do. Start at the top, rebuild the structure and let those people build a new program...

not here though.

[Rack Bauer]

PFF WAY overrated us on this one. They're being way too nice to us on this one.

[DezBRomo9]

Originally Posted by Titleist

Quote:

PB – 26th, RB – 8th, PEN – 32nd
Stud: Never let us say we can’t be wrong. Nate Livings ( +11.3) had his most consistent year as a pro in Dallas, making a mark with his run blocking.

Wow, Nate must have been god-awful in Cincinnati. No wonder they wanted him gone.

Yeah, Cincinnati had a pretty good running game but its pass pro struggled at times. Honestly Cook, Costa, Smith and Livings were about what we should expect, but Free and Berny were God awful. Add killer and Parnell, plus a high pick at OG to replace Berny we should have an about average line to go into nex
t year. The only thing that will make us better is making teams actually bite our play action passes, then give Romo a chance with a 7 step drop. Remember having TO and Crayton catch those deep passes all day in '07? That is all we need...(and some more turnovers )


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[coogrfan]

Originally Posted by CyberB0b

I don't see how you can determine the Cowboys were #8 in run blocking, using any type of metric.

Agreed. I have no idea how PFF comes up with it's rankings, but it's clear they need to tweek their methodology.

In 2012 the avg NFL team had 435.2 rushing atts for 1854.7 yds (4.3/att), 96.9 rushing 1st downs and 12.5 rushing tds. Our numbers: 355 atts, 1265 yds (3.6/att), 76 1st downs and 8 tds.

[Future]

I don't care what metrics they use. What idiot could possibly think that this OLine was top 10 in anything?

[percyhoward]

Remember, PFF put Bennett on their All-Pro team ahead of Witten.

Then came out later and said they'd made a mistake with their math.

[robert70x7]

I averaged out all of Football Outsider's O-Line Metrics, and here's what I came up with.

1. Seattle
2. Giants
3. Patriots
4. Saints
5. 49ers
6. Ravens
7. Texans
8. Bucs
9. Bills
10. 4skins
11. Vikings
12. Broncos
13. Dolphins
14. Lions
15. Jets
16. Bengals
17. Rams
18. Cowboys
19. Chiefs
20. Browns
21. Steelers
22. Jaguars
23. Colts
24. Eagles
25. Bears
26. Falcons
27. Raiders
28. Titans
29. Panthers
30. Chargers
31. Packers
32. Cardinals

Power Rank - 15th
Stuffed Rank - 12th
2nd Level Rank - 25th
Open Field Rank - 26th


Pass Blocking - 11th


Left End - 6th
Left Tackle - 9th
Mid/Guard - 17th
Right Tackle - 32nd
Right End - 28th

[cowboysooner]

My impression of PFF is that they generally overrate penalties and somewhat run blocking. They underrate pass blocking. They don't account much for scheme differences i.e. 3 step drop or 7 step drop. They don't adjust for how a defense changes with a mobile qb.

It is not an accident that #1 pass blocking offensive lines follow Peyton Manning around the league. It is no accident that Bruce Arrian's qb's make big plays but take alot of sacks and hits.

[DFWJC]

Originally Posted by percyhoward

Remember, PFF put Bennett on their All-Pro team ahead of Witten.

Then came out later and said they'd made a mistake with their math.

[cowboysooner]

I do think it is instructive that Free was a big problem and McKenzie was bad, especially early. Also Evan Mathis went from camp fodder guy to the highest rated guard in the league. He was a McKenzie B level signing for the Eagles. That is some strong performance enhancement on their part.