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Old 01-31-2013   #121
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Let's keep the thread on topic...


If folks want to discus rap take it to the Off-topic Zone please.
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Old 01-31-2013   #122
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No, he isn't going to be a head coach this year because (aside from his former employer) 7 other teams had HC vacancies and decided they didn't want Lovie Smith. One team even picked a guy from the Canadian Football League rather than Lovie Smith. That indicates he's not exactly a hot property.

Of the 8 new head coaches hired this offseason, 7 of the 8 are offensive coaches. That percentage indicates teams would rather not hire defensive coaches.

You're not .... very good .... at math and calculating probabilities are you?
Nice attempt at spinning the point...

1. So Lovie Smith didn't get a job this year, after just getting fired somehow proves he won't get a job as a HC again? That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Maybe Lovie Smith made it known he's sitting out a year, because he wants to go back to Dallas when Jason Garrett fails yet again. The contention was not that he was hot property this year. To summarize to make it a little easier for you to follow:

Your contention was that Lovie Smith is not going to be offered a job because he is a defensive-minded coach, i.e. you rememebr your comment was originally made in respect to Rex Ryan not getting a HC job, because he is a 'defensive-minded' coach.

This brings me to point 2:

2. You claimed that defensive-minded coaches don't get jobs and that list of about 7 coaches seems to argue that your the one not very good at math and probabilities. Ironically, you 'cut' out that portion of the response, but it doesn't surprise me, because it makes you look like you don't know what your talking about. Gus Bradley had that Seattle defense playing pretty hard and is now a HC, which would necessitate that people do get HC jobs based upon the work they do as DCs.

Now, do you understand my 'math' and 'probability' qualifications?

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What a reach. He(Rob) doesn't have a job. That is the end of the story. Trying to make it into something else is ridiculous.
There is nothing to reach about here. The issue wasn't whether Rob Ryan has a job now. The issue was whether Rob Ryan would get a job after his '5 minute' comment, which HE DID. The fact that he was offered a job shows that he was respected by the Rams organization.

End of story. He left the Rams job, because HE FELT the 4-3 wasn't in his interests.
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Defensive coordinators exclusively wedded to a 4-3 or 3-4 are heading quickly toward extinction. And at current rates, they will be extinct before the fullback.

All teams run versions of the 3-4 and 4-3 and 5-2 and ... A good defensive coordinator will scheme according to his talent not force players into his scheme.

Rob Ryan had one interview after he was fired. I think all can agree he isn't exactly "in demand." I'm guessing a lot of teams did their research and contacted former and current players and decided against him. And it really is hard to explain why your team only got 7 INTs last year with Carr, Claiborne, Jenkins and Scandrick at CB. I don't know how you would even begin to explain that.
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Old 01-31-2013   #125
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There is nothing to reach about here. The issue wasn't whether Rob Ryan has a job now. The issue was whether Rob Ryan would get a job after his '5 minute' comment, which HE DID. The fact that he was offered a job shows that he was respected by the Rams organization.

End of story. He left the Rams job, because HE FELT the 4-3 wasn't in his interests.
much more likely the rams realized he was not worth the baggage he brings.
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Defensive coordinators exclusively wedded to a 4-3 or 3-4 are heading quickly toward extinction.
That makes Mike Zimmer a valuable commodity.
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much more likely the rams realized he was not worth the baggage he brings.
After the premature reports of Ryan getting hired while he was on vacation thousands of miles away, I tend to agree with you. I have a hunch that it was Ryan himself that was behind the bogus reports in order to save face.
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After the premature reports of Ryan getting hired while he was on vacation thousands of miles away, I tend to agree with you. I have a hunch that it was Ryan himself that was behind the bogus reports in order to save face.
exactly what i'm thinking. i can't believe all the people taking this last report as gospel.
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So much hate for Ryan. Just take care of him already or stop whining. Knock him out, smear butter all over him, then slide him down the street into a busy intersection at rush hour. Of if you're health-conscious, use non-hydrogenated margarine.


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So much hate for Ryan. Just take care of him already or stop whining. Knock him out, smear butter all over him, then slide him down the street into a busy intersection at rush hour. Of if you're health-conscious, use non-hydrogenated margarine.


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