Could Campo go 8-8 with this talent?

[HowAboutThemCowboys]

Campo does have the distinction of being the only Dallas Cowboys coach to be "pantsed" on TV.

[ninja]

Originally Posted by BrAinPaiNt

What difference does it make if he could or could not?

Huge difference. If Garrett can't bring better results than say, Dave Campo, as head coach, then why exactly is Garrett here and getting $4M/year?

Garrett has an atrocious red zone offense.
Garrett is garbage when it comes to time management.
Garrett's game planning leaves a lot to be desired.
Garrett's playcalling is suspect at best.
Garrett was late in getting Hanna involved in the offense.
Garrett was late in benching Free and going with Parnell.
Garrett was late replacing Felix Jones with Harris at kick returner.

And Garrett can't even give a press conference without looking like an idiot. Yeah, process, and stacking, and all three phases, etc. Nobody is buying whatever he is saying anymore. The gig is up. Good riddance to this fool Garrett.

[links18]

A Campo coached team is by definition a 5-11 team.

[visionary]

Originally Posted by Joe Realist

He already is...

zinggggg.......

[HoustonFrog]

Originally Posted by Idgit

Could Andy Reid with his? Tom Coughlin?

The NFL is a tough business. Only in Dallas is 8-8 the end of the world and a harkening back to the darkest days of the franchise.

To answer your question: no.

Disagree. Again, as been discussed ad nauseam, you have to look at where people are coming from. 1966-1996. 26 of 31 years with a winning record...including a record 20 straight. Since then 16 years with 1 playoff win and 6 losing seasons, 3 .500 seasons and 3 9-7 records. The last 3 years are 6-10, 8-8 and 8-8. So let's stop putting things in a vacuum and acting like ONE season of 8-8 is causing all this hand wringing.

[zrinkill]

Campo had a team with no talent.

But he also played coached in the NFC east when the Skins and Giants were also without talent.

This was were most of his yearly wins came from.

The Eagles were the only team with talent at that time and they owned us.

Garrett coaches in an NFC East that is filled with talented teams.

This is the difference.

[Gameover]

yes..

[HoustonFrog]

Originally Posted by zrinkill

Campo had a team with no talent.

But he also played coached in the NFC east when the Skins and Giants were also without talent.

This was were most of his yearly wins came from.

The Eagles were the only team with talent at that time and they owned us.

Garrett coaches in an NFC East that is filled with talented teams.

This is the difference.

So is it your theory that the NFC East has been beating up on each other? I know the Giants won a SB but if you look at the regular season the last 2 years the NFC East has been pretty weak and that has shown by the fact that we were in playoff/division winning scenario games right around .500. We have a lot of big names but not much in the way of regular season dominance. I can see this if your theory is that all the teams are so good that its tough to get to 12-4

[Coy]

Yes he could, just look at the pieces in place and compare this team to Campo´s teams. Start with Romo vs Quincy or Antonio Bryant vs Dez haha.
Go on from there and you will find a MUCH better team in 2012 than in the early 2000´s

Saying that Campo sucked as a coach.

[Aven8]

Great topic.

I think Campo would have done better then 8-8 honestly. I was surprised we won 5 with the talent he had to work with back then.

That right there is very telling.

[superpunk]

Originally Posted by Chocolate Lab

And not just Romo, but Demarcus Ware... Spencer... Dez... Lee... Witten...

That's what's funny about people saying this team lacks so much talent. Go look at those teams if you want to see true lack of talent.

We have no depth though. Every year in the playoffs you see a few no-name young players come up big when it matters most. Their teams have stocked up through the draft, and even if these guys aren't considered "talent" they are valuable, cheap role-players.

We're top-heavy as hell. We draft one or two new starters per year, and recently we've had to wait for these guys to rehab before they can get out there. That's not getting it done.

[Wolfpack]

Originally Posted by DFWJC

Yes. I say 8-8. Gailey? maybe 9-7 Parcells? maybe 10-6 or 11-5

We lost about 5 games by just one or two plays. Baltimore, Atlanta, NY2nd, New Orleans, Washington2nd

Yep. Plus add in the big Seattle ST blunders.

[Chocolate Lab]

Originally Posted by superpunk

We have no depth though. Every year in the playoffs you see a few no-name young players come up big when it matters most. Their teams have stocked up through the draft, and even if these guys aren't considered "talent" they are valuable, cheap role-players.

We're top-heavy as hell. We draft one or two new starters per year, and recently we've had to wait for these guys to rehab before they can get out there. That's not getting it done.

Does this team have far better talent than Campo's or not?

Campo had garbage at the bottom of his starting 22, but unlike this team, he also had pretty much garbage at the top as well.

Plus complete and utter garbage at by far the most important position on the team. Tony Romo alone on that last team might've won 10 games.

[CowboysFaninDC]

Originally Posted by CATCH17

Also could he have gone 8-8 with Romo as his QB?

I don't think so. he would have still achieved 5-11 if not worse.

[superpunk]

Originally Posted by Chocolate Lab

Does this team have far better talent than Campo's or not?

Campo had garbage at the bottom of his starting 22, but unlike this team, he also had pretty much garbage at the top as well.

Plus complete and utter garbage at by far the most important position on the team. Tony Romo alone on that last team might've won 10 games.

Well you also have to factor in that the only reason we won 5 games those years is because the NFC and particularly the East was dreadful. 2 wins off Washington by default every season and we're midway to our Campo-quota.

My point was that outside of our top heavy stars we really have done a terrible job of replacing talent. Getting role players a la Canty and Bowen and co who contribute significantly early in their careers at a cheap rate then move on when it's time for a new deal.