Scouting the OTs: DJ Fluker, Alabama - Page 3 - Dallas Cowboys Forum

InmanRoshi · 02-01-2013

If we're going OL early, this is the type of guy I would want. A G/RT swing who plays guard initially and sticks there for 10 years because he's so dominant or a guy who could replace Free at RT down the road. A potential Alex Boone, Josh Sitton or Marshal Yanda type.

Aliencowboy · 02-01-2013

If Lane Johnson isn't there, I'd love to pick him at 18.
Watch Fluker against LSU and Bark or watch him
manhandle Jenkins#6 in the Georgia match. He'll do fine
in the NFL at RT. He'd be an instant Pro Bowler at G.

This guy has great football instincts and I've never seen
a college tackle be as dominant as he is in the running game.
Take him at 18 without a doubt. He'd bring an attitude to
the OL it hasn't seen in a decade.

[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcuejIQ-6tU"]

xwalker · 02-01-2013

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then we shouldn't ask him to block anyone 40 yards down field??

that's a very weak complaint imho.

The forty is a general indicator of quickness/athleticism. I would prefer 10-yard time, but it's not always available.

I just look for the measureables to match what I see in game footage when comparing players. Measureables aren't the end-all-be-all but they can be informative.

xwalker · 02-01-2013

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[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcuejIQ-6tU"]

xwalker · 02-01-2013

Even if Fluker can play RT in the NFL, I would expect him to be much better at OG. If the Cowboys were running a power-man blocking scheme, then I would be in favor of drafting him as a Guard.

Fluker going against Mingo in college is different than Fluker against Mingo in the NFL. NFL defenses are more complex in terms of blitzing, etc.. Also, pass-rushing against Alabama was difficult because defenses had to make stopping the run the top priority. That will not happen consistently in the NFL. There will be games in the NFL where the pass-rushers can just Tee-off on rushing the QB. College defenses rarely, if ever, did that to Alabama.

I see Fluker as a less athletic Leonard Davis. A guy that was a disappointment at OT but dominant as a Guard in a power-man blocking scheme (until the got too fat).

Either way, it's all opinion. It will be fun to come back and revisit this in a year.

jterrell · 02-02-2013

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great link man, thanks!

newlander · 02-04-2013

what the HECK are some of you watching? This guy was DOMINANT in the SEC...I mean, he isn't perfect but who is? I'd be a tad nervous at 18 but a trade down to 23ish and he could be had plus the extra picks: just a thought.

jnday · 02-04-2013

I understand that Fluker doesn't fit the zone blocking scheme, but the two free agents that Dallas signed last year was not zone blocking linemen. As I said in a previous post, when players such as Warmack, Warford and Fluker don't fit the scheme, the scheme needs to go. I don't care about linemen blocking at the second level when they can't get a push and block at the first level. Dallas tried these small quick linemen and found out that they get no push at the LOS. The lack of size and power is one reason that the Cowboys can't run the ball in the red zone. 290lb linemen just can't get it done IMO.

Gaede · 02-05-2013

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I understand that Fluker doesn't fit the zone blocking scheme, but the two free agents that Dallas signed last year was not zone blocking linemen. As I said in a previous post, when players such as Warmack, Warford and Fluker don't fit the scheme, the scheme needs to go. I don't care about linemen blocking at the second level when they can't get a push and block at the first level. Dallas tried these small quick linemen and found out that they get no push at the LOS. The lack of size and power is one reason that the Cowboys can't run the ball in the red zone. 290lb linemen just can't get it done IMO.

Exactly.

Give me a line with the likes of Warford, Warmack or Fluker and I'll actually be excited for the next season.

This team is deficient in strength.

xwalker · 02-05-2013

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Originally Posted by jnday

I understand that Fluker doesn't fit the zone blocking scheme, but the two free agents that Dallas signed last year was not zone blocking linemen. As I said in a previous post, when players such as Warmack, Warford and Fluker don't fit the scheme, the scheme needs to go. I don't care about linemen blocking at the second level when they can't get a push and block at the first level. Dallas tried these small quick linemen and found out that they get no push at the LOS. The lack of size and power is one reason that the Cowboys can't run the ball in the red zone. 290lb linemen just can't get it done IMO.

I think Livings and Bernadeau were not the Cowboys first choices. The cap penalty, the Carr signing and the 29.77M of dead-money might have caused the Cowboys to just grab some bodies to fill out the roster.

InmanRoshi · 02-05-2013

He looks like Mo Collins to me, and Mo Collins did pretty well as a right guard for Callahan.

CATCH17 · 02-05-2013

Im not down on Fluker at all but it's crazy talk to want him in the 1st round.

jnday · 02-05-2013

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I think Livings and Bernadeau were not the Cowboys first choices. The cap penalty, the Carr signing and the 29.77M of dead-money might have caused the Cowboys to just grab some bodies to fill out the roster.

I don't think there was many options other than draft some linemen or high price FAs. Draft is out of the question if you look at recent history.

jnday · 02-05-2013

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I think Livings and Bernadeau were not the Cowboys first choices. The cap penalty, the Carr signing and the 29.77M of dead-money might have caused the Cowboys to just grab some bodies to fill out the roster.

You may be right, but it was reported that these two were hand picked by Callahan as guys that would play well despite their history of being jags.

There are some comparisons between Fluker and Flozell. If so, I want him. I was Flozell fan. Some may disagree, but this line needs some of that.

xwalker · 02-05-2013

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You may be right, but it was reported that these two were hand picked by Callahan as guys that would play well despite their history of being jags.

There are some comparisons between Fluker and Flozell. If so, I want him. I was Flozell fan. Some may disagree, but this line needs some of that.

I think the "hand picked" report was a bit misleading. It's not as if they said, here pick the 2 best FA Guards. It was more like, pick the 2 best out of the bargain bin.

I don't see any similarity between Fluker and Flozell. Flozell had elite quickness. Flozell was a 5-time Pro Bowl LT and 1-time All-Pro. I don't think anybody is projecting Fluker to LT.

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