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TheCount · 02-16-2013

Great work, Risen.

Risen Star · 02-16-2013

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Originally Posted by Boys122

Not for nothing but I've yet to see a bad draft of yours. Not since I've been in these.

I've had some bad picks. I took Troy Williamson in the top 10 one year. The worst pick I've ever made. I remember taking Dexter McCluster and Mardy Gilyard with my two 2nd round picks the year they were drafted. McCluster's okay, but he's certainly not worth a 2nd rounder.

DeMarcus "Tank" Tyler in the 2nd round. Ayieee.

visionary · 02-16-2013

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Originally Posted by Sifillest

Ha, thanks man. I realized after some folks killed the hankins pick that there was not gonna be any way to make everyone happy....so i figured i'd just continue to be confident in my board and go from there. And yea i did the math after the trade was done on sportscalc or some site like that, it was a 95 pt diff in value, not too much but i should have gotten like a 5th as well. Lol it seemed almost every team had the same needs as we(Dallas) did in this mock. Had a ton of fun on my first try, can't wait to participate again. Kudos to Risen, taking the entire process on by himself. I might volunteer to assist next year if Hos(I think that's who helped last year) doesn't get back in it.

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sorry sifillest
at your picks richardson and cyprien in 1 and 2 would immediately be starters and make a huge impact
hankins is not a difference maker IMO, richardson is

Oh_Canada · 02-17-2013

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Originally Posted by visionary

sorry sifillest
at your picks richardson and cyprien in 1 and 2 would immediately be starters and make a huge impact
hankins is not a difference maker IMO, richardson is

I like the Hankins pck actually-will be a starter in the league a long time. Though I prefer Richardson.

Pick I wish Cowboys had made was Alvin Bailey instead of Taylor (whom I like) in the third. Bailey will be a ten year starter at guard in the NFL.

Sifillest · 02-17-2013

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Originally Posted by Oh_Canada

I like the Hankins pck actually-will be a starter in the league a long time. Though I prefer Richardson.

Pick I wish Cowboys had made was Alvin Bailey instead of Taylor (whom I like) in the third. Bailey will be a ten year starter at guard in the NFL.

I was hoping bailey would be there with the 2nd pick i had in the third. but he and Brian Winters got snatched up. It's like every GM read my mind....and the GM's that weren't here got consensus picks from the most diabolical minds in the draft...

All of 'em

TheCount · 02-17-2013

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Originally Posted by Sifillest

I was hoping bailey would be there with the 2nd pick i had in the third. but he and Brian Winters got snatched up. It's like every GM read my mind....and the GM's that weren't here got consensus picks from the most diabolical minds in the draft...

All of 'em

Perils of trading down.

DFWJC · 02-17-2013

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Originally Posted by Risen Star

I've had some bad picks. I took Troy Williamson in the top 10 one year. The worst pick I've ever made. I remember taking Dexter McCluster and Mardy Gilyard with my two 2nd round picks the year they were drafted. McCluster's okay, but he's certainly not worth a 2nd rounder.

DeMarcus "Tank" Tyler in the 2nd round. Ayieee.

FWIW
Your draft this year looks really solid top to bottom.

As much as I talk a BPA game, these mocks show how hard it is to do when your team has glaring needs in certain areas. I tried to to intersect BPA with need or else trade up or down, but it didn't work quite as smoothly as hoped.

DFWJC · 02-17-2013

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Originally Posted by robert70x7

Better than Terron Armstead, Ricky Wagner, David Quessenberry, David Bakhtiari, Reid Fragel, Xavier Nixon, Jordan Mills, Chris Faulk, Luke Marquardt, Nick Becton, Manase Foketi?

Not my pick, but time will tell on all of these. For all we know, the guy made the right call.

Tezz · 02-17-2013

I made a mistake thinking Vaccaro was still on the board so I traded up ughhh, but I like my class... The Patriots draft is my fave, high on Brandon Williams.

Risen Star · 02-17-2013

I went into the draft knowing the Bucs needed help on pass defense and could really use a new TE capable of being a major weapon on offense. I don't want to say I focused on that but it certainly broke any ties when it came time to pick.

I normally would never trade down before the draft starts but I'm just not impressed with the top end talent in this draft. You can get the same type of player at 23 as you can 13, for the most part. Or at least the difference doesn't trump the extra pick or two you get moving down. So adding an extra 3rd rounder this year and next year for a drop from 13-19 seemed like a gift to me.

1(19) Sheldon Richardson DT Missouri
I honestly didn't think he'd be there. I was surprised to see Ogletree and Richardson still on the board at 18. It justified my trade down, IMO. I thank the Texans for taking Ogletree and saving me from maybe burning a 1st on the latest DUI idiot. Richardson has legitimate pro bowl potential in the NFL but does come with some off field risk.

2(43) Tyler Eifert TE Notre Dame
I really wanted one of the two 1st round caliber TEs. I was even investigating what it would take to get back into the late 1st round to do it, but I didn't want to act until the first one went off the board. I don't like trading up and burning picks unless it's needed. Well it turns out Ertz fell to 40 and I only had to sweat out a couple of picks. Eifert should walk into Tampa as the starter and provide Freeman a security blanket he hasn't really had yet as he develops. If he develops. More on that with my last pick.

3(73) Khaseem Greene OLB Rutgers
Extremely athletic, tackling machine. This is probably my favorite pick and I wouldn't be surprised if it turns out to be the best. Sure, he's undersized. So was Lavonte David. This is a different NFL. I think Greene's going to excel at the pro level if he goes to the right system for his skill set. Which would be Dallas now, by the way.

3(81) Logan Ryan CB Rutgers
Too much value. Highly productive underclassman who could easily go a round or more higher. The Bucs don't have much at CB so the opportunity for early impact is there.

4(108) Brandon Jenkins OLB Florida St.
21.5 sacks in the two years leading up to this season. Then suffered a Lisfranc injury to his left foot in the season opener this year and missed the rest of the season. He's got a history of injuries. This is a flyer. But on a guy who, again, had 21.5 sacks in two years. Work him in at end and cross your fingers he can stay healthy. Boom or bust. Worth the 108th pick, IMO.

4(123) Landry Jones QB Oklahoma
I had no real intention on drafting a QB but a 6'4" 230lb guy who threw for over 16,000 yards and 120 TDs at a major conference level probably shouldn't still be available here. He's a work in progress but so is Josh Freeman. I'm not sold on him. The Bucs shouldn't be either. Jones is a possible option should the Freeman era fizzle out.

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I thought Winicki had a nice draft in Tennessee. Minnesota, Atlanta, New Orleans and Denver were others that stood out to me.

St. Louis, Miami and Cincinnati had strong drafts but they were mostly site picks. I can't include them.

Hard to pick a winner this year. It's really balanced.

As for Dallas. I would probably lose my mind if they ignored the OL talent once again like they did here.

Risen Star · 02-17-2013

Don't forget to take a look at the team by team selections thread and send me draft grades. Also include the biggest steal of the draft and the biggest reach. Don't grade yourself.

Hopefully we can get the grading done and put a big bow on this year's mock next weekend.

DFWJC · 02-17-2013

Always hope to save these for a couple of years, becasue so often what drafts we think look good today could be a steaming pile of.... in a couple of years.

It's good fun and we really appreciate the effort.

Risen Star · 02-17-2013

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Originally Posted by DFWJC

Always hope to save these for a couple of years, becasue so often what drafts we think look good today could be a steaming pile of.... in a couple of years.

It's good fun and we really appreciate the effort.

We've done this draft since 2004 but I've only saved mine since 2007. Have a look, if you like.

2007 - New Orleans
1(27) Aaron Ross CB Texas
2(58) DeMarcus Tyler DT North Carolina St.
3(88) Ben Patrick TE Delaware
4(119) Michael Johnson S Arizona
4(121) Dustin Fry C Clemson
4(122) Michael Okwo OLB Stanford

Pretty weak class, IMO.

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2008 - Buffalo
1(11) Ryan Clady T Boise St.
1(26) Mario Manningham WR Michigan
3(71) Chevis Jackson CB LSU
4(110) Jermichael Finley TE Texas
Lost 2009 3rd Round Pick (Jacksonville)

Jackson flamed out but overall a very strong class.

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2009 - San Diego
2(34) Larry English OLB Northern Illinois
2(54) Shonn Greene RB Iowa
3(78) Brian Robiskie WR Ohio St.
4(109) Kraig Urbik G Wisconsin
4(123) Tyrone Green G Auburn
Added 2010 4th Round Pick (Kansas City)
Added 2010 5th Round Pick (Baltimore)
Lost 2010 4th Round Pick (Washington)

I hit on my two 4th round picks. Which saved what would have been a bust class.

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2010 - Tampa Bay
1(3) Eric Berry S Tennessee
2(35) Mardy Gilyard WR Cincinnati
2(44) Dexter McCluster RB Mississippi
3(67) Jon Asamoah G Illinois
4(98) Brandon Lang DE Troy

Berry is a stud. I hit on another mid round offensive lineman. Somebody give the Cowboys my contact info. The two 2nd round picks were a waste. Lang was even't drafted and was playing in Canada within a year. Mixed bag. I "won" the contest this year. Which shows you how seriously to take the vote but it's still fun to do.

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2011 - San Diego
1(18) Corey Liuget DT Illinois
2(50) Torrey Smith WR Maryland
2(62) Ras-I Dowling CB Virginia
3(82) Rodney Hudson G Florida St.
3(89) Randall Cobb WR Kentucky

If not for injuries for Dowling and Hudson this would be an epic class. And I didn't win this year.

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2012 - Kansas City
1(12) Trent Richardson RB Alabama
2(64) Kendall Reyes DT Connecticut
3(76) Brock Osweiler QB Arizona St.
3(95) Trumaine Johnson CB Montana
4(106) Mitchell Schwartz T California
Added 2013 3rd Round Pick (N.Y. Giants)

We're to the point now where guys are still developing but the early returns on this class are promising. If Osweiler can be the successor to Manning, it's a great class, IMO.

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2013 - Tampa Bay
1(19) Sheldon Richardson DT Missouri
2(43) Tyler Eifert TE Notre Dame
3(73) Khaseem Greene OLB Rutgers
3(81) Logan Ryan CB Rutgers
4(108) Brandon Jenkins OLB Florida St.
4(123) Landry Jones QB Oklahoma
Added 2014 3rd Round Pick (N.Y. Giants)

Who knows? I wouldn't trade it back in. I like my chances.

DFWJC · 02-17-2013

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Originally Posted by Risen Star

We've done this draft since 2004 but I've only saved mine since 2007. Have a look, if you like.

2007 - New Orleans
1(27) Aaron Ross CB Texas
2(58) DeMarcus Tyler DT North Carolina St.
3(88) Ben Patrick TE Delaware
4(119) Michael Johnson S Arizona
4(121) Dustin Fry C Clemson
4(122) Michael Okwo OLB Stanford

Pretty weak class, IMO.

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2008 - Buffalo
1(11) Ryan Clady T Boise St.
1(26) Mario Manningham WR Michigan
3(71) Chevis Jackson CB LSU
4(110) Jermichael Finley TE Texas
Lost 2009 3rd Round Pick (Jacksonville)

Jackson flamed out but overall a very strong class.

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2009 - San Diego
2(34) Larry English OLB Northern Illinois
2(54) Shonn Greene RB Iowa
3(78) Brian Robiskie WR Ohio St.
4(109) Kraig Urbik G Wisconsin
4(123) Tyrone Green G Auburn
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Always fun to be able to look back a few years later and see how you did.

Risen Star · 02-18-2013

When you send in your grades, don't forget to include who you felt was the biggest steal and who was the biggest reach.