QB ranking by tier including Romo

[weaver21]

Originally Posted by DejectedFan1996

I sometimes have to wonder how/why people have such an emotional attachment to Romo? Like, its slightly frightening. I feel like some posters would gladly take bullets for Romo if given the opportunity.

Odd stuff...

Maybe if people didn't make countless threads that trash Romo then maybe those posters wouldn't have to defend him all the time. I feel bad for people that want Romo, I really do. This franchise has shown me nothing that they can find quarterbacks and have instant success. After Aikman, we had 9 quarterbacks after him and none of them had any success. Romo was on our team for nearly 3 teams before he was given a chance to shine and he's been our quarterback for the last 7 years.

This team is horrible at finding quarterbacks and I guarantee we will go through the same thing we went through with Aikman when Romo leaves. Fix the damn offensive line and Romo will get us deep into the playoffs and possibly into the Super Bowl. If we don't, Romo is gonna leave and we're gonna spend countless years looking for our next quarterback and all the haters will realize how important Romo was to this team. He's the only reason we're even relevant now and some of you can't grasp that fact.

[KJJ]

Originally Posted by Super_Kazuya

For the last time, I have no idea what you're talking about with your made up elimination game nonsense. Romo has played in 121 regular season games and 4 playoff games. There's no such thing as elimination games, it's just something you made up with your own magical definition.

If you think there's no such thing as elimination games and it's just a figment of my imagination here's a few links with others using the term "elimination games" when talking about Romo's 1-6 record do or die record. If you want more let me know.

http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2012/...-season-flops/

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap100...-cowboys-faith

http://cowboys24x7.com/columns/Cowbo...omo-experiment

http://thelandryhat.com/2013/01/01/a...ith-tony-romo/

https://jp.twitter.com/BruceMurraySh...05576958959617

Originally Posted by Super_Kazuya

I tried to find Bart Starr's elimination game record. I tried to find Joe Montana's elimination game record. It doesn't exist, because it's made up.

Try looking up their playoff records those are "elimination games."

[Frozen700]

Oh...I guess we should start crying and throwing fits

[Clove]

Originally Posted by Beast_from_East

We had 17 different starting QBs between Aikman and Romo.


What makes you so sure "a real QB" is not going to take another 17 starters to find? Hope you got some snacks put up, might be a hell of a long wait.

If I'm being honest, and I have to control myself when talking about the 3 untouchables, based on the new rules.

But, Jerry has not made a real attempt to draft a qualified QB in over 23 years. Of course you're not going to find a QB if you don't try. Picking up trash off the street, drafting 4th rounders in the 2nd round, trying to find baseball players to play football is just bad business.

And as far as your "real QB" comment, in my opinion, we've not had a real QB since Aikman. To me, a real QB is someone who can lead their team, excuses and all, to the playoffs, win, and put themselves in position to win Super Bowls.

And, I KNOW Romo is here to stay, and I know everyone wants us to be in a jolly mood, and I'm sure I may have to find another place to vent soon because it's hard to contain my opinions about things I think have held this team back. But until I finally put a nail in my own clove coffin, I will believe that this franchise has wasted 7 years, and will ultimately waste a decade on a fraud QB.

Nothing anyone on this board, stats, opinions, or a gun to my head, can convince me that Romo is the QB to lead this team to a Super Bowl. And having said all of that, maybe I just won't respond to anymore Romo threads, I will try my best not to, but in case I can't help my self, it's been fun.

[Chuck 54]

Only guy ahead of Romo that I question is Matty Ice...he IS younger, but he seems very much like Romo in big games.

[burmafrd]

Originally Posted by Clove

If I'm being honest, and I have to control myself when talking about the 3 untouchables, based on the new rules.

But, Jerry has not made a real attempt to draft a qualified QB in over 23 years. Of course you're not going to find a QB if you don't try. Picking up trash off the street, drafting 4th rounders in the 2nd round, trying to find baseball players to play football is just bad business.

And as far as your "real QB" comment, in my opinion, we've not had a real QB since Aikman. To me, a real QB is someone who can lead their team, excuses and all, to the playoffs, win, and put themselves in position to win Super Bowls.

[View Full Quote]And, I KNOW Romo is here to stay, and I know everyone wants us to be in a jolly mood, and I'm sure I may have to find another place to vent soon because it's hard to contain my opinions about things I think have held this team back. But until I finally put a nail in my own clove coffin, I will believe that this franchise has wasted 7 years, and will ultimately waste a decade on a fraud QB.

Nothing anyone on this board, stats, opinions, or a gun to my head, can convince me that Romo is the QB to lead this team to a Super Bowl. And having said all of that, maybe I just won't respond to anymore Romo threads, I will try my best not to, but in case I can't help my self, it's been fun.

you romo haters are so unintentionally funny

[ufcrules1]

Originally Posted by weaver21

Maybe if people didn't make countless threads that trash Romo then maybe those posters wouldn't have to defend him all the time. I feel bad for people that want Romo, I really do. This franchise has shown me nothing that they can find quarterbacks and have instant success. After Aikman, we had 9 quarterbacks after him and none of them had any success. Romo was on our team for nearly 3 teams before he was given a chance to shine and he's been our quarterback for the last 7 years.

[View Full Quote]This team is horrible at finding quarterbacks and I guarantee we will go through the same thing we went through with Aikman when Romo leaves. Fix the damn offensive line and Romo will get us deep into the playoffs and possibly into the Super Bowl. If we don't, Romo is gonna leave and we're gonna spend countless years looking for our next quarterback and all the haters will realize how important Romo was to this team. He's the only reason we're even relevant now and some of you can't grasp that fact.

Your post is exactly why Cowboys fans are in love with Romo. You are right that we went through several years with bad QB's before Romo came along. Romo is also way better than those bad QB's. The problem is, you think we simply cannot find another good QB and so you want to hang on to Romo. There have been other good to great QB's drafted recently Colin, Luck, RG3, Dalton, Wilson, etc. So it very possible we can find a solid QB at out there in the draft.

[ufcrules1]

Originally Posted by Chuck 54

Only guy ahead of Romo that I question is Matty Ice...he IS younger, but he seems very much like Romo in big games.

Fair enough. I'm not a big Matty ICE fan. I think he is an example of a player who has a solid team around him and when the going really gets too tough, he folds. He becomes the weakest link on his team thus holding them back from going all the way.

[Nation]

Originally Posted by ufcrules1

Your post is exactly why Cowboys fans are in love with Romo. You are right that we went through several years with bad QB's before Romo came along. Romo is also way better than those bad QB's. The problem is, you think we simply cannot find another good QB and so you want to hang on to Romo. There have been other good to great QB's drafted recently Colin, Luck, RG3, Dalton, Wilson, etc. So it very possible we can find a solid QB at out there in the draft.

Andy Dalton? Really?

[ufcrules1]

Originally Posted by Nation

Andy Dalton? Really?

I think Andy is a good QB. He has also led his team to the playoffs every year he has been there. He is not great, but then again neither is Romo.

2010 Bengals were 4-12
2011 With Dalton 9-7 Playoffs.. HUGE turnaround.
2012 With Dalton 10-6 Playoffs Improved on 2011 season.


How about Luck, RG3, Colin, and Wilson?

[DejectedFan1996]

Originally Posted by Super_Kazuya

But let me guess, you find Romo haters who would fire the gun at Romo if given the opportunity perfectly normal. One group helped to make the mods adopt a new ban policy, the other did not. I'll let you guess which.

Now that's "odd stuff".

The same knee jerk reactions that happen when someone mentions something slightly negative about Romo far outweighs the knee jerk reactions (if any at all) when someone mentions positive about him.

The the other poster that quoted me, if people are bashing Romo or have their own personal opinions of him, why can't people just deal with it? Its not healthy to be so emotionally attached to a public figure you have never met and have no real connection with other than the fact that he is the QB of your team. The attachment/sensitivity for Romo, as I said, is very scary. If someone gives him props, but mentions something very slightly negative, there's at least 4 or 5 people that will quote that individual to defend that very slight negative comment. Let it go. I understand this is a forum and opinions will obviously be expressed but why do people feel the need to jump at every single negative comment, as vague as it may be, in Romo's defense.

There's a ton of positive comments/threads about Romo since I've been here and the amount of "haters" that respond to those positive threads is significantly less than someone making a SLIGHT comment about something negative about Romo. I mean, its gotten to the point where this topic, regardless of what you think the posters intention was, has been completely derailed. If someone decides to make a topic about drafting a QB, I can put my salary on someone taking that as a slight jab to Romo and inserting a "well if we draft someone we have to get an oline because Romo makes this oline way better than it is" type of comment.

Yoda: "Learn to let go, of everything you fear to lose. Attachment leads to jealously. The shadow of greed that is. "

[Reverend Conehead]

Originally Posted by KJJ

It only drives you crazy because Romo hasn't won a SB. Teams are driven by their QB and it takes at least 3 straight wins in postseason to win a championship. One slip up and you're done. It's hilarious everytime someone brings up Trent Dilfer when everyone knows he was carried to a SB win by one of the greatest defenses in NFL history. He's the only QB to ever be released immediately after winning a SB what does that tell you?

A bus driver winning a SB has only happened probably 4 times in SB history Dilfer, Brad Johnson, Jim McMahon and Jeff Hostetler. Each one of those QB's were average QB's at best who were carried to championships by great defenses. They also had a running game to lean on so all they had to do was manage the games and not make any mistakes. You'll never see another bus driver win a SB in this pass happy era.

[View Full Quote]Flacco went from a bus driver to a QB who could carry his team. Had Flacco not developed into the big game passer he's become the Ravens would have come up short again. Flacco has taken his game to another level and he needed to because the Ravens weren't the defensive team they've been in the past. Neither Dilfer, Johnson, McMahon or Hostetler would have a ring if those SB's came down to them having to make plays.

There's in between bus driver and great quarterback.. The Redskins have gone to and won all their Super Bowls with good quarterbacks who were not great. Billy Kilmer (gone to, but did not win), Joe Theismann, Doug Williams, Mark Rypen. Those guys all have one thing in common: They were good, but not great. But they weren't bus drivers either. The point is, you can win the Super Bowl with a good quarterback who isn't great. It requires a top-notch team. If you want to win it with a bus driver QB, on the other hand, you need a superb defense and a running game.

[Coy]

Originally Posted by Reverend Conehead

There's in between bus driver and great quarterback.. The Redskins have gone to and won all their Super Bowls with good quarterbacks who were not great. Billy Kilmer (gone to, but did not win), Joe Theismann, Doug Williams, Mark Rypen. Those guys all have one thing in common: They were good, but not great. But they weren't bus drivers either. The point is, you can win the Super Bowl with a good quarterback who isn't great. It requires a top-notch team. If you want to win it with a bus driver QB, on the other hand, you need a superb defense and a running game.

You are correct, but that´s something that could happen back in the day, in today´s NFL you´ll almost always need a great QB or at least great QB play in the playoffs and SB (Flacco) in order to win.

[ufcrules1]

Originally Posted by Coy

You are correct, but that´s something that could happen back in the day, in today´s NFL you´ll almost always need a great QB or at least great QB play in the playoffs and SB (Flacco) in order to win.

I would agree with this opinion above. Last time a bus driver went to the superbowl was Grossman and that Bears defense took him there. Ultimately, he ended up being their weakest link and choked as you would expect a bus driver QB to do throwing a few INT's.

[weaver21]

Originally Posted by ufcrules1

Your post is exactly why Cowboys fans are in love with Romo. You are right that we went through several years with bad QB's before Romo came along. Romo is also way better than those bad QB's. The problem is, you think we simply cannot find another good QB and so you want to hang on to Romo. There have been other good to great QB's drafted recently Colin, Luck, RG3, Dalton, Wilson, etc. So it very possible we can find a solid QB at out there in the draft.

And again have the Cowboys proved to you in the past that their good at finding quarterbacks? There is no rookie quarterback that's gonna come in and be successful with this team. None. You honestly think Luck, RG3 or any of those rookie quarterbacks would've got us to the playoffs with our current team?