Hypothetical on draft day?

[Verdict]

Lets suppose that by some stroke of luck, that all three of these guys are available when we draft ..... who do you take, and why?

Chance Warmack G Alabama
Lane Johnson T Oklahoma
Kenny Vaccaro S Texas

[CashMan]

Originally Posted by Verdict

Lets suppose that by some stroke of luck, that all three of these guys are available when we draft ..... who do you take, and why?

Chance Warmack G Alabama
Lane Johnson T Oklahoma
Kenny Vaccaro S Texas

I think you take the G, for the simple fact of, pick a side of the line to fortify, and that would be the left side. Although, my feeling is, there is more value with a T over a G, I think this is the right choice. Although FS is a big thing in the Tampa-2.

[Verdict]

Originally Posted by CashMan

I think you take the G, for the simple fact of, pick a side of the line to fortify, and that would be the left side. Although, my feeling is, there is more value with a T over a G, I think this is the right choice. Although FS is a big thing in the Tampa-2.

Personally, if we have an equal grade on them, I would go OT, mainly due to the fact that tackles cost a lot more to sign in free agency, and we could get a good guard, and safety in rounds 2 and 3 or vice versa.

I do not think we could get a starting caliber OT in the 2nd or 3rd that would start for us this year.

[CashMan]

Originally Posted by Verdict

Personally, if we have an equal grade on them, I would go OT, mainly due to the fact that tackles cost a lot more to sign in free agency, and we could get a good guard, and safety in rounds 2 and 3 or vice versa.

I do not think we could get a starting caliber OT in the 2nd or 3rd that would start for us this year.

Those are good points. I havent started my draft rankings yet, so I do not know the answer to starting caliber T or G's past the 1st rd, but the T makes sense. But, it might be one of those, instead of taking the #3 or #4 T on the board, you can get the #1 G. I don't know where they are all ranking in terms of that.

[Verdict]

I am guessing it would be easier for the guard or safety to crack the starting lineup on opening day, but that might even be true if we selected the safety and guard in round 3 this year.

[LatinMind]

Warmack easily. Who cares about posistion. You go BPA. And Warmack is above both

[cbow44]

I really really like Warmack. But if things fell this way, would have to go with Lane Johnson.

[big dog cowboy]

I'n not sure you can think about draft picks like that. What we as fans would do and how the Cowboys value players will be different.

[Cowboy_Ace]

Originally Posted by big dog cowboy

I'n not sure you can think about draft picks like that. What we as fans would do and how the Cowboys value players will be different.

I agree nd because of that I feel guard would be ranked third in this scenario... I personally would take the tackle... Gives us athletic bookends, that in my opinion both can play either side.

[Gaede]

Johnson.

Get the premium position. There will be a starting caliber guard in round two, but not a starting caliber tackle.

I don't like Vaccaro that much (at that spot, at least)

[xwalker]

Originally Posted by Verdict

Lets suppose that by some stroke of luck, that all three of these guys are available when we draft ..... who do you take, and why?

Chance Warmack G Alabama
Lane Johnson T Oklahoma
Kenny Vaccaro S Texas

Good question. This is a tricky decision.

How do you really define BPA? If Warmack is a 9.9 as Guard on a scale of 1 to 10 and Lane Johnson is a 9.0 as a OT, then who is the BPA?

What if you change it from Johnson to Luke Joeckel and the Cowboys have the #3 overall pick and both Joeckel and Warmack are available? What if Joeckel = 9.5 and Warmack = 9.9 at their respective positions? It appears obvious that Joeckel would be the pick; however, he is not technically the BPA.

My first thought in this scenario, would be to try and trade down a few spots and take advantage of the fact that someone might be dead-set on getting a specific player.

If the trade down fails, the choice is definitely between Warmack and Johnson. There is no possibility that I would draft Vaccaro over either of the other two players.

You want to avoid drafting for need; however, you only have drafts picks on their rookie contracts for 4 years. You really must consider year-1 contributions in order to maximize your salary cap management.

My specific "need" based issue is that I think that Parnell at RT is 10x better then anything that the Cowboys have at any of the interior OL positions. The 2nd and related issue is that I'm convinced that Parnell will win the starting job over Lane Johnson. If Lane Johnson was one of the OTs that could also play OG, then that would put him over the top; however, he is not really an option at OG, IMO.

Final Decision = Warmack

I'm assuming that in your scenario that Richardson and Cooper are off the board.

[theranchsucks]

Originally Posted by Verdict

Lets suppose that by some stroke of luck, that all three of these guys are available when we draft ..... who do you take, and why?

Chance Warmack G Alabama
Lane Johnson T Oklahoma
Kenny Vaccaro S Texas

Chance Warmack with out a doubt.

I am not a big Lane Johnson fan. I think that Menelik Watson will be a much better pro.

Kenny Vaccaro is no Ed Reed, Eric Berry, or Earl Thomas. I see his as more of a Rahim Moore and I really don't understand the hype about him.

[theranchsucks]

Originally Posted by theranchsucks

Chance Warmack with out a doubt.

I am not a big Lane Johnson fan. I think that Menelik Watson will be a much better pro.

Kenny Vaccaro is no Ed Reed, Eric Berry, or Earl Thomas. I see his as more of a Rahim Moore and I really don't understand the hype about him.

Better question would be if Warmack, Richardson, and Ziggy Ansah(with a huge combine showing). Now that would be one tough decision.

[AsthmaField]

Originally Posted by theranchsucks

Better question would be if Warmack, Richardson, and Ziggy Ansah(with a huge combine showing). Now that would be one tough decision.

In that situation, I'd take Richardson without much hesitation.

Richardson has some rare traits including two of the most important: Quickness and motor.

In a Tampa 2 scheme there might not be a more important position than the 3-tech DL. Richardson fits that position in that system, to a Tee.

Would the Super Bowl winning Tampa defense that Kiffin ran in the early 00's be the same defense without Warren Sapp? Probably not. Richardson could be a game changer.

Warmack is a very good player and I'd be more than happy with him, but he isn't going to be a game changer and in free agency you could get another player to basically do what he can for a lot less than you can get a DT.

Ansah might be a game changer, but in my mind that is a 50/50 proposition and when you can get two near can't miss players like Warmack and Richardson, he would be my last choice. DE is an impact position in our new defense... but IMO Ansah has a long way to go before he could do that.

Richardson would likely do that from day 1.

[Macnalty]

Originally Posted by AsthmaField

In that situation, I'd take Richardson without much hesitation.

Richardson has some rare traits including two of the most important: Quickness and motor.

In a Tampa 2 scheme there might not be a more important position than the 3-tech DL. Richardson fits that position in that system, to a Tee.

Would the Super Bowl winning Tampa defense that Kiffin ran in the early 00's be the same defense without Warren Sapp? Probably not. Richardson could be a game changer.

Warmack is a very good player and I'd be more than happy with him, but he isn't going to be a game changer and in free agency you could get another player to basically do what he can for a lot less than you can get a DT.

[View Full Quote]Ansah might be a game changer, but in my mind that is a 50/50 proposition and when you can get two near can't miss players like Warmack and Richardson, he would be my last choice. DE is an impact position in our new defense... but IMO Ansah has a long way to go before he could do that.

Richardson would likely do that from day 1.

I agree completely on Richardson, my gut tells me he is gone around 10-14 and next on my list for DL is Shariff Floyd or Kawaan Short. Lane Johnson ahead of Warmack for value of position, Lane still has some room to scoot up the draft board if all this talk about him running a fast forty comes to fruition. Ansah is a project we can not afford to take on with all the holes we have on Oline and Dline/OLB. I hope Vacarro is not in the equation for us in the first round, just saw too many Texas games this year to drool over their defensive talent.