Would you wait on extending Romo?

[lostar2009]

Originally Posted by Super_Kazuya

In 100 years, you could put this post in a museum as a relic representing Joe Cowboy fan on the street from the year 2013. It contains all of the elements: imaginary concepts (QBs winning games like starting pitchers, do or die games), strange assertions (holding team records aren't notable, just historic NFL records), bad grammar, and of course the mandatory feeling of entitlement.

I dont care what you say its the truth and its fact every QB playing today has walk through the same shoes as Romo and has produce more. Romo did what he was capable of doing he won some games and sold some tickets. I have realize we just want to much out of the guy. He just isn't that good to take this team to the next level. We have to increase this team talent to that of the 85 bears to really stand a chance. But fine attack my post because that is all you can do since you know its true.

Originally Posted by weaver21

And what, you think Colin Klein is the answer to our problems?

No Colin is not the answer maybe for the future but not this year. I think Tyler Wilson would be an option. Also i must state this.. that last thread was not a Romo hate thread its just my evaluation and opinion. Its time to move on from the guy.. we cant tie in resources on a player just because he gives us a chance. A chance at what ? Because we haven't been in the playoffs in 3 years. If you want to resign the guy let him be worth it. In 2007 Romo was worth it.. he save our season and we went into 2007 with a 5-0 record. As of now i don't think the guy is worth extended this year.

[5Stars]

Originally Posted by ABQCOWBOY

Not necessarily a recommendation but certainly an option, would be to trade him.

I wish they would trade him. He doesn't deserve to be in Dallas anymore.

[ABQCOWBOY]

Originally Posted by 5Stars

I wish they would trade him. He doesn't deserve to be in Dallas anymore.

I'll be honest with you 5Stars, I don't hate Rome. Like many, he frustrates me at times but I do believe he is doing all he is capable of to try and win. I just don't believe he can do it on the team we have now. The numbers are working against him. The time is running out and we are not in a position, IMO, to be able to sign him for what I believe he's going to want without compromising a lot of other areas on the team.

I'd rather see him traded to a contender where he might be able to win then see him stay here and face the same kinds of seasons we've seen the last few years, no real chance to win a championship.

[weaver21]

Originally Posted by lostar2009

I dont care what you say its the truth and its fact every QB playing today has walk through the same shoes as Romo and has produce more. Romo did what he was capable of doing he won some games and sold some tickets. I have realize we just want to much out of the guy. He just isn't that good to take this team to the next level. We have to increase this team talent to that of the 85 bears to really stand a chance. But fine attack my post because that is all you can do since you know its true.




[View Full Quote]No Colin is not the answer maybe for the future but not this year. I think Tyler Wilson would be an option. Also i must state this.. that last thread was not a Romo hate thread its just my evaluation and opinion. Its time to move on from the guy.. we cant tie in resources on a player just because he gives us a chance. A chance at what ? Because we haven't been in the playoffs in 3 years. If you want to resign the guy let him be worth it. In 2007 Romo was worth it.. he save our season and we went into 2007 with a 5-0 record. As of now i don't think the guy is worth extended this year.

The 85 Bears? Are you serious? Give Romo an offensive line and I guarantee he leads us deep into the playoffs. Not only does it help him, but it helps Murray as well and allows him to take the weight off of Romo's shoulders.

[5Stars]

Originally Posted by ABQCOWBOY

I'll be honest with you 5Stars, I don't hate Rome. Like many, he frustrates me at times but I do believe he is doing all he is capable of to try and win. I just don't believe he can do it on the team we have now. The numbers are working against him. The time is running out and we are not in a position, IMO, to be able to sign him for what I believe he's going to want without compromising a lot of other areas on the team.

I'd rather see him traded to a contender where he might be able to win then see him stay here and face the same kinds of seasons we've seen the last few years, no real chance to win a championship.

Hey, I totally agree with all of that. Romo could be very valuable to another team that needs a good QB. And, it might be better for Romo just because...

But, I hope Romo makes the right choice.

But, can they franchise him if he did not sign his new contract?

[lostar2009]

Originally Posted by weaver21

The 85 Bears? Are you serious? Give Romo an offensive line and I guarantee he leads us deep into the playoffs. Not only does it help him, but it helps Murray as well and allows him to take the weight off of Romo's shoulders.

Romo had a good line in 07,08,09( you remember all the pro bowlers we had ?)and it was solid in 11.. You give any Qb a great offensive line im sure they can throw on any team. The problem with Romo is the fact ive seen bad throws while the pocket was clean.

[M'Kevon]

Originally Posted by lostar2009

Romo had a good line in 07,08,09( you remember all the pro bowlers we had ?)and it was solid in 11.. You give any Qb a great offensive line im sure they can throw on any team. The problem with Romo is the fact ive seen bad throws while the pocket was clean.

You can't be serious. A solid line in 2011? Do you actually watch the games?

36 sacks (and would have been in the 50s if not for Romo escaping).

18th in the league rushing.

And lets include 2010, since you apparently believe Dallas didn't play.

2010

31 sacks.

16th rushing.

2009

31 sacks

7th rushing.

2008

31 sacks.

21st rushing.

2007

25 sacks.

17th rushing.

Dallas has consequently ranked in the bottom half of the league in rushing, and in the top half of the league in giving up sacks.

The problem is, you don't like Romo. Just own up to it. But stop making crap up.

[lostar2009]

Originally Posted by M'Kevon

You can't be serious. A solid line in 2011? Do you actually watch the games?

36 sacks (and would have been in the 50s if not for Romo escaping).

18th in the league rushing.

And lets include 2010, since you apparently believe Dallas didn't play.

2010

31 sacks.

16th rushing.

2009

31 sacks

7th rushing.

2008

31 sacks.

21st rushing.

2007

25 sacks.

17th rushing.

Dallas has consequently ranked in the bottom half of the league in rushing, and in the top half of the league in giving up sacks.

The problem is, you don't like Romo. Just own up to it. But stop making crap up.

What is it im making up ? Do you not watch the games? Flo, Gurode and Davis were pro bowlers they held up but age caught to those guys.. Kroiser and Columbo was very solid.You can add in run averages all you want to show what you wish in an attempt to make yourself look good but you are not showing the rushing attempts and the quality of the rb used. Just because JG didnt want to run the ball you cant blame the oline.

You cant say the sack total would have been less because of Romo. For one its his job to throw the ball away if its not there and not take the sack for standing still in the pocket.How do you know its Romo that are causing the high sack total and hits ?

2007- 24 sacks

2008-31 sacks.. Romo sack 20 times in 10 games, Johnson sack 8 times in 2 games and Bollinger sack 3 times in 1 game

2009- 34 sacks

2010-31 sacks..Romo sack 7 times in 6 games, Kitna sack 21 times in 10 games, McGee sack 3 times in 2 games

2011- 36 sacks

[Ring Leader]

Originally Posted by Super_Kazuya

In 100 years, you could put this post in a museum as a relic representing Joe Cowboy fan on the street from the year 2013. It contains all of the elements: imaginary concepts (QBs winning games like starting pitchers, do or die games), strange assertions (holding team records aren't notable, just historic NFL records), bad grammar, and of course the mandatory feeling of entitlement.

Bravo sir, well said!

[M'Kevon]

Originally Posted by lostar2009

What is it im making up ? Do you not watch the games? Flo, Gurode and Davis were pro bowlers they held up but age caught to those guys.. Kroiser and Columbo was very solid.You can add in run averages all you want to show what you wish in an attempt to make yourself look good but you are not showing the rushing attempts and the quality of the rb used. Just because JG didnt want to run the ball you cant blame the oline.

You cant say the sack total would have been less because of Romo. For one its his job to throw the ball away if its not there and not take the sack for standing still in the pocket.How do you know its Romo that are causing the high sack total and hits ?

2007- 24 sacks

2008-31 sacks.. Romo sack 20 times in 10 games, Johnson sack 8 times in 2 games and Bollinger sack 3 times in 1 game

2009- 34 sacks

[View Full Quote]2010-31 sacks..Romo sack 7 times in 6 games, Kitna sack 21 times in 10 games, McGee sack 3 times in 2 games

2011- 36 sacks

Breathtakingly ignorant.

Do you know what "bottom half of the league" means?

How can that possibly equate to good?????

[SkinsFan28]

Originally Posted by ABQCOWBOY

Quote:

Originally Posted by Future

If I were Romo, I wouldn't sign anything.

This. I still have yet to hear the compelling reason behind why Romo would sign an extension with us. Financially, it makes no sense for him. He could go to a team like the Vikings and they would pay him handsomely. He could easily play out his current contract and earn 17 Million this season and then create a bidding war for his services next year. What is the compelling reason for him to extend?

Best as I can tell, Romo likes Dallas(which brings his sanity into question) and would be loyal to the team if they put a reasonably competitive extension in front of him. A lot of players prefer an early extension for the stability it brings to their lives, unless they are a superstar or feel that there is big money waiting. Romo might gain a little from an Arizona or Minnesota, but he may view it as not enough to make him feel it is worth passing up a solid deal to stay.


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[Kristen82]

Originally Posted by SkinsFan28

Best as I can tell, Romo likes Dallas(which brings his sanity into question) and would be loyal to the team if they put a reasonably competitive extension in front of him. A lot of players prefer an early extension for the stability it brings to their lives, unless they are a superstar or feel that there is big money waiting. Romo might gain a little from an Arizona or Minnesota, but he may view it as not enough to make him feel it is worth passing up a solid deal to stay.

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I'd think any decision from Romo is in large part contingent on the extent to which we improve the OL for him this offseason. We could franchise him after the season if he doesn't agree to an extension but I think that'd piss him off. He knows he'd be by far the best FA QB in the really shallow '14 pool if he was allowed to get to that point.

[ABQCOWBOY]

Originally Posted by 5Stars

Hey, I totally agree with all of that. Romo could be very valuable to another team that needs a good QB. And, it might be better for Romo just because...

But, I hope Romo makes the right choice.

But, can they franchise him if he did not sign his new contract?

They could Franchise him but it would be very expensive to do so and we don't have a lot of cap to work with. Also, to franchise him, you have to have room under your own cap to fit the Salary demand for Romo. That would be the Average of the top 5 QBs in the NFL. That's an average of 20, 19.2, 18, 16 and 15.2. You figure the 15.2 will probably go away and rep replaced with whatever Flacco gets signed for. That is going to be a very high number. The Cowboys would basically be on the hook for the average of those top 5 salaries. You don't know what that might be but it's probably something around 18 million, maybe more. The Cowboys would have to clear that space before they could franchise him and that would not be easy. Plus, it's way to much to pay for Romo IMO.

[ABQCOWBOY]

Originally Posted by SkinsFan28

Best as I can tell, Romo likes Dallas(which brings his sanity into question) and would be loyal to the team if they put a reasonably competitive extension in front of him. A lot of players prefer an early extension for the stability it brings to their lives, unless they are a superstar or feel that there is big money waiting. Romo might gain a little from an Arizona or Minnesota, but he may view it as not enough to make him feel it is worth passing up a solid deal to stay.


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I don't think anybody really knows what Romo might think is reasonable. This is his last contract. I don't think he is going to settle for a 12 or 15 Million deal.

[SkinsFan28]

Originally Posted by ABQCOWBOY

I don't think anybody really knows what Romo might think is reasonable. This is his last contract. I don't think he is going to settle for a 12 or 15 Million deal.

I agree that noone knows for sure what Romo is thinking. Flacco reportedly turned down 16M last year. That said, I doubt he would sign for 12 either, that would be a huge home team discount at this point, but I think it's fair to say his stats and numbers would put him in the 14-16M range, and that if he is open to an extension those would be the numbers that he would sign for. If he wants to "bet on himself" this coming year, then nothing short of a 19-20M deal would do that, and the Cowboys shouldn't offer that without him leading them deep into the playoffs.