The Proof Is In The Pudding: There Never Was Any Stripping of PlayCalling!

[Bluestang]

Originally Posted by Doomsay

Where did you hear that?

http://sportsblogs.star-telegram.com...cowboys-1.html

Jason Garrett said that was the best move for his brother.

“Johnny had some opportunities to leave here in the last couple of years, and we kept him here,” Jason Garrett said. “We made it worth his while to stay here. And as we’ve restructured this thing, I would never put him in a situation where he would call plays on our staff. He and I had that discussion; we had that discussion in our organization. We felt like the best way for him to grow was not to be here. He’s got a great situation down in Tampa with guys that he knows and respects and he’ll do a great job for them.”

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[jnday]

Originally Posted by WPBCowboysFan

Actually that is a ridiculous way to look at it. It matters not how many mediots spin the same yarn. It matters where they got the information. And in this case, if you pay attention you dont need any mediots. All you do is listen and observe and you know the mediots have created a scenario that is anything but true.

Its like the State of the Union Address by the Prez. You can listen to the speech yourself and ascertain what was said. Or you can listen to the mediot pundits tells you what he said and scratch your head wonder how you missed all that. In this case, just listen and watch whats going on at VR and you dont need mediots.

It is much more easy to just link the quotes and actions of Jerry and Jason and form an opinion. It is not really an opinion when you can see what happened by the results. Jerry went on a rampage and made changes. Now they are giving the impression that Jason had something to with the changes to save face. This is not hard to see.

[Hoofbite]

Is "proof" the little chewy parts mixed into tapioca?

[jazzcat22]

I'm for one am tired of all the crap about the play calling. Who will it be, will Garrett still call the plays. Is it Jerry's choice that it changes, was it's Garrett's....who freaking cares at this point.

does it really make a difference at this point. What are the players saying about it, are they concerned....no they are not.

I'll just wait and see what transpires on the field in TC, then I may or may not have an opinion.

All I care is that they score more points and be productive and consistent.
They will come up with agame plan, and let Ms. Price call the plays...we know she's loud enough...

[Doomsay]

Originally Posted by Bluestang

http://sportsblogs.star-telegram.com...cowboys-1.html

Yeah I saw that earlier, but “We made it worth his while to stay here."

/= "maybe you could explain to us with all your inside knowledge why John has tried to leave the last 2 seasons and the Cowboys blocked him?....."


Big difference, IMO.

[Bluestang]

Originally Posted by Doomsay

Yeah I saw that earlier, but “We made it worth his while to stay here."

/= "maybe you could explain to us with all your inside knowledge why John has tried to leave the last 2 seasons and the Cowboys blocked him?....."


Big difference, IMO.

I agree, but Jason said it himself that John wasn't going to get a chance to call plays here in Dallas and that wasn't what John was looking for in his venture to go up in the coaching ladder.

[blindzebra]

Originally Posted by Doomsay

Yeah I saw that earlier, but “We made it worth his while to stay here."

/= "maybe you could explain to us with all your inside knowledge why John has tried to leave the last 2 seasons and the Cowboys blocked him?....."


Big difference, IMO.

No it isn't.

If a coach is under contract a team must give permission for him to take the same level job elsewhere.

No permission = blocked.

[Doomsay]

Originally Posted by blindzebra

No it isn't.

If a coach is under contract a team must give permission for him to take the same level job elsewhere.

No permission = blocked.

Where is the evidenceve that John was or was not granted permission to interview with another team over the past two years?

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Originally Posted by blindzebra

Funny how snippets of quotes by known exaggerators is taken as truth but accurate transcripts of the full quote is spin control.

Exactly. I would also add that many people responding to this are unaware that Spagnola's article was mostly a transcript of what Jones actually said at the combine.

I get saying that Spagnola is a paid kool aid stirrer and some things need to be taken with a a grain of salt. At the same time, a transcript is pretty much the definition of objective reporting.

I also find it interesting that what Jerry said over a month ago is pretty much the same thing that Garrett was saying in his presser a couple of says ago. Specifically:

Originally Posted by Jones at the Senior Bowl

We’re still getting into how we’re offensively going to function, and I don’t want to get ahead of ourselves there.

Now I have no doubt that the general manager is pushing for some changes but I really wish people would stop filling in the gaps when they don't know. I really wish at a certain point that people would be fine with admitting that they do not know.

John Garrett is case in point here. What we know is that John Garrett left the Dallas Cowboys as TE coach to teach the Miami Dolphins WR. Anything else is just guess work.

I can accept that Jason Garrett was uncomfortable with the topic because when he was talked about it he was breaking eye contact, waving back and forth a the podium and fidgeting. That speaks of agitation pretty clearly.

I can even accept that the Garrett's as a family are close and it is doubtful that he canned his brother outright. OTOH, I cannot accept the leap from there that it was Jones that forced him out as fact.

For example, I can come up with a whole ton of other scenarios first and foremost that John wanted to leave. Maybe Jason actually did want him replaced. Maybe John wasn't getting along with some of the other coaches or Witten or anything else. While the Jones as idiot makes for good copy for McMahon and Mosely, that does not make it certain. It's possible but not certain.

This is what people talk about when it comes to confirmation bias and agendas.

It's okay to say you don't know.

[blindzebra]

Originally Posted by Doomsay

Where is the evidenceve that John was or was not granted permission to interview with another team over the past two years?

It is in the freaking quote you responded to.

[TwoDeep3]

Originally Posted by FuzzyLumpkins

Exactly. I would also add that many people responding to this are unaware that Spagnola's article was mostly a transcript of what Jones actually said at the combine.

I get saying that Spagnola is a paid kool aid stirrer and some things need to be taken with a a grain of salt. At the same time, a transcript is pretty much the definition of objective reporting.

I also find it interesting that what Jerry said over a month ago is pretty much the same thing that Garrett was saying in his presser a couple of says ago. Specifically:



Now I have no doubt that the general manager is pushing for some changes but I really wish people would stop filling in the gaps when they don't know. I really wish at a certain point that people would be fine with admitting that they do not know.

[View Full Quote]John Garrett is case in point here. What we know is that John Garrett left the Dallas Cowboys as TE coach to teach the Miami Dolphins WR. Anything else is just guess work.

I can accept that Jason Garrett was uncomfortable with the topic because when he was talked about it he was breaking eye contact, waving back and forth a the podium and fidgeting. That speaks of agitation pretty clearly.

I can even accept that the Garrett's as a family are close and it is doubtful that he canned his brother outright. OTOH, I cannot accept the leap from there that it was Jones that forced him out as fact.

For example, I can come up with a whole ton of other scenarios first and foremost that John wanted to leave. Maybe Jason actually did want him replaced. Maybe John wasn't getting along with some of the other coaches or Witten or anything else. While the Jones as idiot makes for good copy for McMahon and Mosely, that does not make it certain. It's possible but not certain.

This is what people talk about when it comes to confirmation bias and agendas.

It's okay to say you don't know.

What is certain is the results over the last sixteen years.

I'll let you do the extrapolation on the one common denominator during that era.

It is not Rowdy or the skirt that drill sergeants the cheerleaders.

[Doomsay]

Originally Posted by blindzebra

It is in the freaking quote you responded to.

No it isn't.

[blindzebra]

Originally Posted by Doomsay

No it isn't.

“Johnny had some opportunities to leave here in the last couple of years, and we kept him here,” Jason Garrett said.

[WPBCowboysFan]

Originally Posted by blindzebra

“Johnny had some opportunities to leave here in the last couple of years, and we kept him here,” Jason Garrett said.

Thats too obvious so somebody must have made it up. Its a lie.

Now, whats way more believable is that Jerry forced Jason to fire his brother.

[Doomsay]

Originally Posted by blindzebra

“Johnny had some opportunities to leave here in the last couple of years, and we kept him here,” Jason Garrett said.

Finish the passage: “We made it worth his while to stay here."

He was given extra incentive to stay, nowhere does is it stated that he was denied permission to talk to other teams. There is a difference.Sounds like John did a good job extracting extra cash and or latitude over the last two years, good for him.