We need to keep Victor Butler

[Future]

Originally Posted by mmillman

Butler looks like a guy that Dallas would regret letting go. I suspect he could flourish somewhere else if used properly

Used properly? He's been used as a situational pass rusher and never done anything his entire career.

[theranchsucks]

I actually believe he could challenge for the starting spot at strong side linebacker.

[Doomsay]

Originally Posted by WoodysGirl

I can't look past the fact that the team preferred to put a very hobbled D-Ware towards the end of the season than a seemingly healthy Victor Butler.

Perhaps that was what got Rob fired.

[TheCount]

Originally Posted by theranchsucks

I actually believe he could challenge for the starting spot at strong side linebacker.

He's too slow, I think.

[RoyTheHammer]

Originally Posted by TheRomoSexual

I think you might be surprised at what kind of contract Butler may get in free agency.

I think YOU might be suprised at what kind of contract Butler would get in FA.

He's done absoultely NOTHING in the NFL so far.

[TheCount]

Originally Posted by RoyTheHammer

I think YOU might be suprised at what kind of contract Butler would get in FA.

He's done absoultely NOTHING in the NFL so far.

Your definition of "nothing" is rather fanciful.

[Typhus]

Lee projects as a natural fit at MLB, but another possible option is moving Lee to SOLB, and finding a MLB in free agency.

I like the idea of having Carter and Lee outside with their speed and playmaking ability, until the safties are upgraded.

[erod]

Butler is gone.

He's the fourth guy on the outside behind Carter, Albright, and Wilber. Not paying a backup to a backup big money.

And he absolutely blows against the run.

[xwalker]

Originally Posted by theranchsucks

I actually believe he could challenge for the starting spot at strong side linebacker.

Pass-rushing is the one area where he has been a decent player. Why move him to a non-pass-rushing position?

[RoyTheHammer]

Originally Posted by TheCount

Your definition of "nothing" is rather fanciful.

What has he done in 4 years to earn any kind of substantial contract? He's played 4 years and has 89 total tackles, most of them on ST's. His best year, he had 25 total tackles and 3 sacks.. while barely getting any playing time. He's a nobody, who is easily replaced if we decide to get rid of him.

[Typhus]

Originally Posted by RoyTheHammer

What has he done in 4 years to earn any kind of substantial contract? He's played 4 years and has 89 total tackles, most of them on ST's. His best year, he had 25 total tackles and 3 sacks.. while barely getting any playing time. He's a nobody, who is easily replaced if we decide to get rid of him.

Victor Butler is very similar to what Kevin Burnett brought to the table, just not enough meat and potatoes.

[GimmeTheBall!]

Originally Posted by WoodysGirl

I can't look past the fact that the team preferred to put a very hobbled D-Ware towards the end of the season than a seemingly healthy Victor Butler.

At most, the team should make a 1-yr qualifying offer to see how well he converts in the 4-3. But IMO, he's not worth getting a multiple year contract.

The fact that a "hobbled" Ware was playing and not Butler is very telling as to the talents, or lack of it, in Butler.
We still had hopes of a playoff slot and a "hobbled" Ware was there and not Butler.

Butler is serviceable. But not a 1st-tier player and maybe not even a 2nd-tier player.

Let us get real about our players. Most on the defensive front, save ware and lee, would not make starters at most teams in the NFL.
We cowboys faithful need to stop gushing over journeymen players such at Hatcher and Butler and Ratliff and keep evaluating the young who might be healthier, more athletic and stop being so sentimental about players who no longer are top tier or who never were. Not that your post said so.

And I agree with you that Butler is not worth a multi-year contract.

[rash]

Butler wants to get a crack at a starting job.

He has the skills to play like the best of them on any given down.

Should he improve against the run, Jerry woulda locked him up before ever getting a chance to test the market.


Having that said, I think he can still be an important piece to this defense.

[erod]

Originally Posted by Typhus

Victor Butler is very similar to what Kevin Burnett brought to the table, just not enough meat and potatoes.

Kevin Burnett was 1000 times better than Victor Butler.

The world is full of Victor Butlers.

[TheCount]

Originally Posted by erod

Kevin Burnett was 1000 times better than Victor Butler.

The world is full of Victor Butlers.

lol, revisionist history is always amusing to see. When he left, a lot of the things being said about Butler in this thread were said about Burnett except that Burnett was also "made of glass".