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Old 02-21-2013   #16
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a #1 and a #3.. With these picks select a Starting Center and a Starting Right Tackle.. With Our Picks a Starting Safety and Defensive Tackle.. Start Orton and With the money saved Pick up Matt Moore Backup QB.. Cliff Avril DE, Ricky Jean-Francois DT, Branden Albert Offensive Tackle.. I know this aint Madden.. And Romo ain't going no where.. But will something like this improve the team long term..
No. Make it this years 1st and next years 1st then I would be willing to talk. I know some will say that is too high of a price but then why would I get rid of something I like without asking for the moon to trade him.

Walker sure as hell was not worth all the picks Minn was willing to give up to get him so if I'm going to trade my franchise QB I want major compensation for it if not then I gladly keep him
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Old 02-21-2013   #17
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Um, when was the last time a "qb of the future" hit the market? It doesn't happen. Also, assuming we hit on every player (doubtful), we will also likely be mediocre and will never be in a position to draft a franchise qb. And this trade is nothing line the Walker trade bc (1) we got a lot more value in the Walker trade, and (2) we already had our young QB of the future.

A QB of the future hitting the market don't happen at all but to the Cowboys they can pick a qb who THEY think will be one for their team.

I stated that relying on the draft will be a gamble because you need studs to fill your holes like after the Walker trade. Yes the Walker trade received more value and I didn't say that the value is similar. I thought that the concept is the same. Trade best player to fill needs for long term success.
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I would trade Romo, but I would get a first next year. I don't like the QB's coming out this year. And that first I would keep trading for a first next year and something else until I see/get the QB I like.
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You may want to say which team will be providing these picks. First rounders from New England are almost like getting a second rounder, while 1st rounders from Jacksonville can have some real value.
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NO......and you sig is freakin me out......
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Great trade if you want Clowney because the BOYS would be picking first next year.
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a #1 and a #3.. With these picks select a Starting Center and a Starting Right Tackle.. With Our Picks a Starting Safety and Defensive Tackle.. Start Orton and With the money saved Pick up Matt Moore Backup QB.. Cliff Avril DE, Ricky Jean-Francois DT, Branden Albert Offensive Tackle.. I know this aint Madden.. And Romo ain't going no where.. But will something like this improve the team long term..

No. The only way trades like this work for both teams is under optimal conditions and we don't have that.......

Optimal for us would be a really good young QB whom we believe could be as good or better than Romo given the chance to start. Kind of like what we had back in 2006......

Throw in the kicker that your vet QB has one year left on his deal.....

Then and only then do you have the makings of a deal worth doing on our side....

Now you need the right trading partner. Some team fairly loaded who's been consistently held back by it's starting QB. A team who's ready to win now and could benefit from acquiring a 33 yr old QB.
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Great trade if you want Clowney because the BOYS would be picking first next year.
You have a point.
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i like and am a huge tony romo fan but if a team whos desperate for a QB is offering multiple 1sts and 2nd round pick(s), I'm sorry that's just something you have to consider. As much as I like Romo as our QB, and I completely agree that getting rid of him would set us back but I am in the crowd that believes no player is aboved being traded for the right price. Imgaine if someone gave us two 1sts and two 2nds or something like that I think it would be stupid to turn it down without a lot of discussion amongst the cowboys braintrust. With those you can say hello to new oline dline S etc!

trading an UDFA for at least 4 potential starters in rounds 1 and 2 sounds pretty good to me.
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Why would we use any of our picks on an OT if we have Tyron Smith and sign Branden Albert?
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a #1 and a #3.. With these picks select a Starting Center and a Starting Right Tackle.. With Our Picks a Starting Safety and Defensive Tackle.. Start Orton and With the money saved Pick up Matt Moore Backup QB.. Cliff Avril DE, Ricky Jean-Francois DT, Branden Albert Offensive Tackle.. I know this aint Madden.. And Romo ain't going no where.. But will something like this improve the team long term..

Trading Romo and starting Orton would be ridiculous unless the goal is to have a top 10 pick in 2014. If you're looking to revisit 2000 to 2005 trade Romo and leave yourself with Orton and watch things go from bad to worse. I've said repeatedly you can't move on from Romo until you have a better option in place at QB. You have no chance of competing without a productive QB. The Cowboys would have ended up no better than 4-12 with Orton last season. You don't trade your starting QB for a roll of the dice in the draft and leave yourself with a journeyman at the position.

You could end up with nothing with those picks for Romo and even if the players develop into starters you still won't win because you're stuck with an immobile backup QB as your starter. Your idea is to start Orton then pick up another lead footed journeymen at the position. With the OL the Cowboys have they would have no chance with a QB who can't avoid the rush and get outside the pocket and make plays. Even with the escapability Romo has he was sacked 36 times last season. In 2010 Orton got sacked 34 times in 13 games behind a Broncos OL that was far better than what the Cowboys have.

Moore took 34 sacks in 13 starts for Miami in 2011. Go look at his numbers and you'll see why the Dolphins burned a #1 on a QB and threw him on the bench. Orton got dumped for Tebow in Denver and then got kicked to the curb by KC in favor of the 2 stiffs that led them to a 2-14 season last year. The Cowboys would have one of the worst QB situations in the league with Orton as the starter and Moore backing him up. It's pretty amusing the ideas some of you armchair GM's come up with that you think will better the team.
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a #1 and a #3.. With these picks select a Starting Center and a Starting Right Tackle.. With Our Picks a Starting Safety and Defensive Tackle.. Start Orton and With the money saved Pick up Matt Moore Backup QB.. Cliff Avril DE, Ricky Jean-Francois DT, Branden Albert Offensive Tackle.. I know this aint Madden.. And Romo ain't going no where.. But will something like this improve the team long term..
you play too much Madden 12. real football doesn't work like that.
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i like and am a huge tony romo fan but if a team whos desperate for a QB is offering multiple 1sts and 2nd round pick(s), I'm sorry that's just something you have to consider.
Have you considered a move like that would leave the Cowboys desperate for a QB? The Cowboys may end up in a position where eventually they'll be offering multiple 1sts to try and get a QB unless not having one leads to them having the #1 overall pick. As much of a QB driven league as the NFL has become you leave yourself with a bad QB situation you're done!
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Have you considered a move like that would leave the Cowboys desperate for a QB? The Cowboys may end up in a position where eventually they'll be offering multiple 1sts to try and get a QB unless not having one leads to them having the #1 overall pick. As much of a QB driven league as the NFL has become you leave yourself with a bad QB situation you're done!
point very well taken but if you can grab 4 starters in the first 2 rounds for 1 qb im just saying i don't think it becomes an instant "no" it would have to be a serious discussion amongst the cowboys braintrust. you don't make deals like that with high picks very often
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