Would You Trade Romo For The Following? - Page 5 - Dallas Cowboys Forum

Zordon · 02-22-2013

I'd probably need a 1st and 2nd. I would do that in a heartbeat.

I'd go 2 offensive linemen, 1 safety, and 1 dlinemen with those picks.

Tank for a season with Orton, then do whatever it takes to get Johnny Football or Teddy Bridgewater in 2014 to go into the future. That would revitalize the franchise.

CliffnMesquite · 02-22-2013

I would trade him for a double order of cheese fries...And a soda.

TwentyOne · 02-22-2013

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Originally Posted by SDCowboy85

That's not a stupid argument. The odds of our next attempt at franchise QB being as productive as our current one are very, very low.

Where are the statistics for that ? Please give facts and no arguments that are based on feelings.

Last time i checked Andrew Luck and RGIII both made it to the PB. 12 of the 16 QBs that played in the SB in the last 8 years were first round picks. Not that shabby of a chance to get a starter at QB in round 1 i would say.

And dont get me wrong: i dont want to trade Romo. It's just the way some people trying to argue. They arent able to give any facts but post bold statements that are based purly on emotions. I will never understand why people are embarrassing themself over and over again.

lostar2009 · 02-22-2013

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Originally Posted by TwentyOne

Where are the statistics for that ? Please give facts and no arguments that are based on feelings.

Last time i checked Andrew Luck and RGIII both made it to the PB. 12 of the 16 QBs that played in the SB in the last 8 years were first round picks. Not that shabby of a chance to get a starter at QB in round 1 i would say.

And dont get me wrong: i dont want to trade Romo. It's just the way some people trying to argue. They arent able to give any facts but post bold statements that are based purly on emotions. I will never understand why people are embarrassing themself over and over again.

these people love their Romo

Vinnie2u · 02-22-2013

Like another poster said. We're not going to win in the next two years. By then Romo lovers will be complaining about his bad contract.

SDCowboy85 · 02-22-2013

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Originally Posted by TwentyOne

Where are the statistics for that ? Please give facts and no arguments that are based on feelings.

Last time i checked Andrew Luck and RGIII both made it to the PB. 12 of the 16 QBs that played in the SB in the last 8 years were first round picks. Not that shabby of a chance to get a starter at QB in round 1 i would say.

And dont get me wrong: i dont want to trade Romo. It's just the way some people trying to argue. They arent able to give any facts but post bold statements that are based purly on emotions. I will never understand why people are embarrassing themself over and over again.

You really need statistics to know that most QBs in the NFL do not produce at a top 10 level?

Erik_H · 02-22-2013

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Originally Posted by Vinnie2u

Sorry I have zero confidence that Romo can put together 3 solid games in the playoffs and win a Super Bowl. He could have the best offensive line in the NFL. Adrian Peterson and Calvin Johnson on his side and I would still look away when the game is on the line.

So on one hand you don't think Romo can do the job, but on the other, you assume a 1st and 3rd rounder for him. Is that because you are so much more savvy than NFL GM's?

Nation · 02-22-2013

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Originally Posted by TwentyOne

Where are the statistics for that ? Please give facts and no arguments that are based on feelings.

Last time i checked Andrew Luck and RGIII both made it to the PB. 12 of the 16 QBs that played in the SB in the last 8 years were first round picks. Not that shabby of a chance to get a starter at QB in round 1 i would say.

And dont get me wrong: i dont want to trade Romo. It's just the way some people trying to argue. They arent able to give any facts but post bold statements that are based purly on emotions. I will never understand why people are embarrassing themself over and over again.

For starters, 12 of the 16 quarterbacks to play in the Super Bowl the last 8 years were not first round picks. Kaep, Brady, Brees, Warner, Brady again, and Hasselbeck all were not first rounders. And even if that were true it doesn't make it easy to find a starter in the first round.

Below is a list of the 20 first round quarterbacks taken since 2006, Romo's first year as a starter.

Of the 20, 7 of them have proven to have no business being a starting quarterback whatsover, with Brandon Weeden not included but there's certainly an argument there.

13 of the 20 have shown to be nowhere near Romo's ability, and I'd say 4 of the 20 have a better shot of winning a title in the next five years than Romo does looking at talent alone.

So let's use our heads and not let a historical 2012 draft class cloud the fact and issue statements like "Not that shabby of a chance to get a starter at QB in round 1".

#1: Andrew Luck (Stanford), Indianapolis Colts
#2: Robert Griffin III (Baylor), Washington Redskins
#8: Ryan Tannehill (Texas A&M), Miami Dolphins
#22: Brandon Weeden (Oklahoma State), Cleveland Browns

#1: Cam Newton (Auburn), Carolina Panthers
#8: Jake Locker (Washington), Tennessee Titans
#10: Blaine Gabbert (Missouri), Jacksonville Jaguars
#12: Christian Ponder (Florida State), Minnesota Vikings

#1: Sam Bradford (Oklahoma), St. Louis Rams
#25: Tim Tebow (Florida), Denver Broncos

#1: Matthew Stafford (Georgia), Detroit Lions
#5: Mark Sanchez (USC), New York Jets
#17: Josh Freeman (Kansas State), Tampa Bay Buccaneers

#3: Matt Ryan (Boston College), Atlanta Falcons
#18: Joe Flacco (Delaware), Baltimore Ravens

#1: JaMarcus Russell (LSU), Oakland Raiders
#22: Brady Quinn (Notre Dame), Cleveland Browns

#3: Vince Young (Texas), Tennessee Titans
#10: Matt Leinart (USC), Arizona Cardinals
#11: Jay Cutler (Vanderbilt), Denver Broncos

DFWJC · 02-22-2013

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Originally Posted by Nation

For starters, 12 of the 16 quarterbacks to play in the Super Bowl the last 8 years were not first round picks. Kaep, Brady, Brees, Warner, Brady again, and Hasselbeck all were not first rounders. And even if that were true it doesn't make it easy to find a starter in the first round.

Below is a list of the 20 first round quarterbacks taken since 2006, Romo's first year as a starter.

Of the 20, 7 of them have proven to have no business being a starting quarterback whatsover, with Brandon Weeden not included but there's certainly an argument there.

13 of the 20 have shown to be nowhere near Romo's ability, and I'd say 4 of the 20 have a better shot of winning a title in the next five years than Romo does looking at talent alone.

So let's use our heads and not let a historical 2012 draft class cloud the fact and issue statements like "Not that shabby of a chance to get a starter at QB in round 1".

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Good job.

The data is there, so people can take from it what they want.

L-O-Jete · 02-22-2013

Can Romo win with this team? If your answer is yes then keep him, if your answer is no then trade him.
Seems logical and easy to me, and if the answer is no I might even be tempted to trade all players with trade value over 27 years of age.

DFWJC · 02-22-2013

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Originally Posted by L-O-Jete

Can Romo win with this team? If your answer is yes then keep him, if your answer is no then trade him.
Seems logical and easy to me, and if the answer is no I might even be tempted to trade all players with trade value over 27 years of age.

You would hope this team as it is right now will not be the same team in August, and especially in December.

SWG9 · 02-22-2013

The problem with the "we can't get rid of Romo unless we clearly have a better option" is that it inevitably puts us in the exact same situation we were in with Troy Aikman. We all know how that turned out.

Think about it: Dallas will never be quite bad enough to get a top five pick and a shot at a premium QB prospect. They'll never use a later 1st round pick on a developmental QB because they'll always be convinced that they're just a couple of players away from contending, so they'll use that pick to fill an immediate need.

Eventually we'll wake up one day with a broken down and essentailly worthless 37 year old Tony Romo and nothing behind him. At that point we'll all say "hey, time to go get a QB". It's unfortunately not that easy.

At some point you have to bite the bullet and be a little proactive about trying to replace Romo. Yes, it's a roll of the dice, and it might even mean mailing a season in. But it's better than wandering around in the QB wilderness for years starting the Clint Storners of the world.

I'm not saying that he has to be traded, but there is a certain point where if the package is good enough, it at least has to be considered.

BringBackThatOleTimeBoys · 02-22-2013

Does anyone see how some fans are trying to have it both ways with Romo?

He's been made into a poster boy of choke, yet hoping to get a lot of value from him in a trade?

If you were going to sell a car or house, what kind of leverage would you have after the town has known for years you think it sucks?

L-O-Jete · 02-22-2013

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Originally Posted by DFWJC

You would hope this team as it is right now will not be the same team in August, and especially in December.

We've been hoping since 2007 basically, when do we stop hoping and start doing?

DFWJC · 02-22-2013

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Originally Posted by L-O-Jete

We've been hoping since 2007 basically, when do we stop hoping and start doing?

Not too many players on this team that were here in 2007. A few of the better ones, and that's it.
Now if you think the REASON is Romo, then by all means dump him. Just come out and say it if that's how you feel.