Flacco to be highest paid QB; so what's Romo worth

[burmafrd]

Originally Posted by DFWJC

He's one of those guys that's been fortunate in that no matter how average he's been in the regular season, he gets to go to the playoffs each and every season. If you go every year with a good team, at some point you're going to start playing well if you're a good player. His team had so many playoff wins in spite of him in his early years...but it did give him valuable experience.

The last two years have made difference for him in the playoffs--especially this year.
Before this year he had as many playoff INTs as he had TDs and his QB rating was in the 70s.
His playoff QB rating is not 86.

He does deserve a ton of credit.

interesting how so many Romo haters that drool over Flacco seem to FORGET how bad he was in playoff games before the last couple of years

[Gameover]

Originally Posted by CowboysYanksLakers

He's won a Superbowl for that franchise... That counts for something, that team also has been to the playoffs A LOT.

"none of that is because of him" - zoners

somebody actually said that joe montana's stats weren't impressive?implying that joe wasn't all that?what has this world come too...

[DatWin]

Originally Posted by Gameover

"none of that is because of him" - zoners

somebody actually said that joe montana's stats weren't impressive?implying that joe wasn't all that?what has this world come too...

That was me and I was implying that we hold Montana in such high regard because of his postseason success, rather than his statistics. Statistically, guys like Marino, Fouts, Warren Moon all surpassed him when it comes to numbers. Much like Romo surpasses Eli and Flacco in terms of numbers, they surpass Romo in post season success.

[Nation]

Flacco's D's have ranked 12th, 3rd, 3rd, 3rd, and 3rd in Points Allowed since he's been in the league. His worst ranked defense would have been Romo's second best.

[bkight13]

Originally Posted by cowboysooner

I would try to get Romo on a lower salary-cap hit deal but with 80% of the deal guaranteed.

$20mm-signing bonus
$5mm 1year one base salary
$16mm convertible base salary in year 2
$16mm guaranteed salary year 3
$10mm salary year 4
$13mm salary year 5
$21mm salary in the dummy year to help absorb the 2nd and 3rd year bonus


Romo would see at least $57million and realistically a minimum of $67mm and possibly $80mm. His contract would look like a $6 year $101mm contract if he wanted to break the $100mm mark for some reason. If Tony wanted more that that he could play the next two years for $25-$27mm and hit free agency at 35 with a franchise tag on his back.

That looks like a pretty workable deal. It keeps Romo here and gives him the security of 57m guaranteed and keeps his cap number reasonable with chances to redo if we cap room later. They could probably even get away with about 7-10m less guaranteed.

[MichaelWinicki]

Originally Posted by Nation

Flacco's D's have ranked 12th, 3rd, 3rd, 3rd, and 3rd in Points Allowed since he's been in the league. His worst ranked defense would have been Romo's second best.

He's (Flacco) has also operated behind better olines and had better running games.

So other that the defenses, offensive lines and running games Flacco and Romo have been operating on similar teams.

[slomoxn]

Originally Posted by DatWin

Sorry, Romo is not FAR BETTER than Joe Flacco. Flacco just put together one of the greatest post-seasons in NFL history culminating with a Super Bowl victory. Joe Montana gets all his praise for the exact same reason, not due to his stats because they certainly weren't earth shattering.

All of those guys have won a Super Bowl, Romo hasn't even made it past the divisional round of the playoffs. I don't want to hear about how their respective teams were light years better because some of them weren't; they just got hot at the right time. Romo is who he's always been. He's a great TALENT, but he hasn't shown that he can get it down when it matters the most and I'm sorry, that counts as far as measuring the value of a QB.

Eli took two wild-card teams into the playoffs and came away as champion. His teams weren't world beaters by any means, but they played their best when it mattered the most and so did Flacco this post-season.

[View Full Quote]Romo is a good QB, but he's not elite and he won't be until he wins something significant and that's just the way it is. Stats are becoming more and more meaningless as the NFL clearly favors the offense. In the last 2 years alone I'm pretty sure that the previous top ten passing yardage seasons have all been eclipsed.

Romo's actual value is somewhere between the opinions of the homers and the haters.

You're right, (at least IMO)but you better duck...

[BoysFan4ever]

So Tony has played with less talented teams than Joe.

That's an indictment on the ownership & front office.

One guy has the benefit of having all the the pieces around him to be successful & it was just up to him to make the leap which Joe did.

[Gameover]

Originally Posted by BoysFan4ever

So Tony has played with less talented teams than Joe.

That's an indictment on the ownership & front office.

One guy has the benefit of having all the the pieces around him to be successful & it was just up to him to make the leap which Joe did.

The 2007 and 2009 Cowboys were more talented than this Ravens team.The Ravens looked to be a fading football team.I wouldn't be surprised at all if they won fewer than eight games in 2013.They were not a great football team.

Wasn't it Tony who single handidly prevented us from making the playoffs in 2011?Jets, Lions, Austin overthrow...Those screw ups are potential momentum killers.We don't even know if this team is capable of making a run, because the qb can't hold his end of the deal.

[BoysFan4ever]

Originally Posted by Gameover

The 2007 and 2009 Cowboys were more talented than this Ravens team.The Ravens looked to be a fading football team.I wouldn't be surprised at all if they won fewer than eight games in 2013.They were not a great football team.

Wasn't it Tony who single handidly prevented us from making the playoffs in 2011?Jets, Lions, Austin overthrow...

I don't keep up with the Ravens. I should have used the quote from the poster who had down all the great rankings of the Ravens D as an example of what Joe had surrounding him.

[Nation]

Originally Posted by Gameover

The 2007 and 2009 Cowboys were more talented than this Ravens team.The Ravens looked to be a fading football team.I wouldn't be surprised at all if they won fewer than eight games in 2013.They were not a great football team.

Wasn't it Tony who single handidly prevented us from making the playoffs in 2011?Jets, Lions, Austin overthrow...Those screw ups are potential momentum killers.We don't even know if this team is capable of making a run, because the qb can't hold his end of the deal.

You don't need to think Romo is a top 5 QB or an elite QB or anything like that, but if you don't think he's ending up his end of the deal you're going to have a hard time enjoying anyone who plays QB for us.

[Gameover]

Originally Posted by Nation

You don't need to think Romo is a top 5 QB or an elite QB or anything like that, but if you don't think he's ending up his end of the deal you're going to have a hard time enjoying anyone who plays QB for us.

All I want is a quarterback who can put points on the board, like Kitna did in 2010.

I could care less about the other stats.

[noshame]

Originally Posted by burmafrd

interesting how so many Romo haters that drool over Flacco seem to FORGET how bad he was in playoff games before the last couple of years

Interesting how many Romo lovers refuse to acknowledge his stellar showing in pressure games. Seriously, do some of you even think before posting.

[noshame]

Originally Posted by Gameover

All I want is a quarterback who can put points on the board, like Kitna did in 2010.

I could care less about the other stats.

Just stop, they have no come back for that one...

[UncFelix28]

Originally Posted by Gameover

All I want is a quarterback who can put points on the board, like Kitna did in 2010.

I could care less about the other stats.

If all you care about is points, then you should be pleased with what Tony Romo provides.. 59 TD's have been because of his throwing arm the past 2 seasons which obviously has him behind Brees-Rodgers-Brady... Ryan & Stafford have thrown 2 more TD's in that period... lol I would understand if you said all you want is a QB who takes care of the ball in win or go home games, but that statement of putting points on the board like Kitna is a little ridiculous.