Charles Haley story from NFL Network Intresting - Dallas Cowboys Forum

jksmith269 · 05-10-2005

Just watched a program about an hour ago and Haley was on it. You could tell it was filmed after he left Dallas and tried to make a comeback with 49ers anyway they were talking about coaches and he said get this Barry Switzer got him better than any other coach something to the extent that Barry was a Mans coach. He said if you messed up Barry would take you on what he called a Mans walk and he'd tell ya you can take this like a man or like a punk either way I don't care barry would then cuss you out for 5 min or so then tell you when you go back over there you will be laughing like I just told you the funniest joke you've ever heard.

I missed the rest after that but I got the feeling he really looked up to Barry Switzer and a lot of the stuff that had been reported back when he was coach was a lot of BS from players who had gotten used to being pampered....

I always thought Barry was an idiot but hearing charles talk I may have to change my opinion of him.....Maybe

jksmith269 · 05-10-2005

What is that supposed to mean?

Billy Bullocks · 05-10-2005

exactly what does that mean?

MissionCoach · 05-10-2005

If I remember correctly, Haley wasn't a fan of Jimmy Johnson (to put it mildly). Jimmy was a disciplinarian

...and it was no secret that Switzer was rather....loosey goosey

. Anyway I'm guessing that Haley preferred Switzer's laid back approach.

I had an opportunity to meet Haley at an autograph session...he was very quiet, low key...I think his daughter was quite ill at the time.

Agree...Switzer did cost us a SB.:shootfoot

Rayman · 05-10-2005

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Originally Posted by speedkilz88

Switzer is an idiot, he cost us at least one Super Bowl. He let the inmates run the asylum.

Switzer is an idiot, but he didn't cost us the Super Bowl you refer too.

Face it, they had one very bad quarter in the NFC Championship Game.
With veterans like Aikman and Irvin turning the ball over, it's hard to blame the coach for that. They came back and won the next year, so what are ya gonna do?

MissionCoach · 05-10-2005

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Originally Posted by Rayman

Switzer is an idiot, but he didn't cost us the Super Bowl you refer too.

Face it, they had one very bad quarter in the NFC Championship Game.
With veterans like Aikman and Irvin turning the ball over, it's hard to blame the coach for that. They came back and won the next year, so what are ya gonna do?

If I recall, the 1st Q killed us, all those turnovers. But the Boys were making a comeback. Didn't Switzer bump the ref on a questionable call...think we got a 15 yarder because of Switzer's stupidity. Think that pretty much nailed the coffin.

speedkilz88 · 05-10-2005

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Originally Posted by MissionCoach

If I recall, the 1st Q killed us, all those turnovers. But the Boys were making a comeback. Didn't Switzer bump the ref on a questionable call...think we got a 15 yarder because of Switzer's stupidity. Think that pretty much nailed the coffin.

Yes, I think it was over the non-call pass interference on Deion Sanders covering Michael Irvin. They still had a chance, but the bump cost them big.

Alexander · 05-10-2005

Switzer was not from elite upbringing, so that may have had something to do with it.

TruBlueCowboy · 05-10-2005

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Originally Posted by MissionCoach

If I remember correctly, Haley wasn't a fan of Jimmy Johnson (to put it mildly). Jimmy was a disciplinarian

...and it was no secret that Switzer was rather....loosey goosey

. Anyway I'm guessing that Haley preferred Switzer's laid back approach.

I had an opportunity to meet Haley at an autograph session...he was very quiet, low key...I think his daughter was quite ill at the time.

Agree...Switzer did cost us a SB.:shootfoot

Yup, Switzer was a player's coach. Hotheads like Haley would rather have a fella like him. I have no problem with a laid-back player's coach IF the team is full of veterans who can police themselves and the team. For a while, we were but as new blood came in, the inmates started running the asylum. Poor Aikman was just begging for a coach to stand up, kick some butt, and take command.

JFlgn · 05-11-2005

Haha, wasn't the first quarter, it was the first 3 minutes!!

Yeagermeister · 05-11-2005

Switzer was an idiot...end of discussion

BARRYRAY · 05-11-2005

I'll not let this go unchallenged, I live in Austin and I still like Switzer, he kicked UT's A$# and he won a super bowl, how many other coaches like Dave Campos and BP have won one in Dallas, everybody wants to judge people by wins/losses in the NFL, ok lets do it that way, the man was a winner whether you like him or not. The last memory I have of DC kicking a@# was the last SB year with Emmitt and Michael, remember when Michael came out of the tunnel with Michael Buffet and the letssssssss get readyyyyy to rummmmmble, we did that day, man Michael and the boys were all playmakers that day, until and if BP can do it in Dallas, this was the last thing resembling a dynasty, sorry I take offense to Switzer bashing, all he ever did was win..

Yeagermeister · 05-11-2005

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Originally Posted by BARRYRAY

I'll not let this go unchallenged, I live in Austin and I still like Switzer, he kicked UT's A$# and he won a super bowl, how many other coaches like Dave Campos and BP have won one in Dallas, everybody wants to judge people by wins/losses in the NFL, ok lets do it that way, the man was a winner whether you like him or not. The last memory I have of DC kicking a@# was the last SB year with Emmitt and Michael, remember when Michael came out of the tunnel with Michael Buffet and the letssssssss get readyyyyy to rummmmmble, we did that day, man Michael and the boys were all playmakers that day, until and if BP can do it in Dallas, this was the last thing resembling a dynasty, sorry I take offense to Switzer bashing, all he ever did was win..

They won the SB with Jimmy's team and in spite of Switzer.

Sportsbabe · 05-11-2005

What's the title of the Charles Haley program? He was one of my all time favorite Cowboys. I need to see it.

WV Cowboy · 05-11-2005

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Originally Posted by BARRYRAY

I'll not let this go unchallenged, I live in Austin and I still like Switzer, he kicked UT's A$# and he won a super bowl, how many other coaches like Dave Campos and BP have won one in Dallas, everybody wants to judge people by wins/losses in the NFL, ok lets do it that way, the man was a winner whether you like him or not. The last memory I have of DC kicking a@# was the last SB year with Emmitt and Michael, remember when Michael came out of the tunnel with Michael Buffet and the letssssssss get readyyyyy to rummmmmble, we did that day, man Michael and the boys were all playmakers that day, until and if BP can do it in Dallas, this was the last thing resembling a dynasty, sorry I take offense to Switzer bashing, all he ever did was win..

I agree, Switzer gets a bad rap.

He came into a very difficult situation to coach.

When you inherit a team that has just won two SB's, they look at you and wonder who you are and what you are doing here.

If not for the 3 quick TO's in the NFC Championship game, he wins two in a row.

He wasn't perfect ever, but he was a good coach and a winner.