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Old 05-18-2005   #1
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Default DE Eric Ogbogu & LB Kalen Thornton competing to for starting OLB

Plenty of competition is a good thing at least this year we have players that can actually compete and make things intresting IMO

Cowboys | Ogbogu to Compete for OLB Spot - from www.KFFL.com
Tue, 17 May 2005 21:13:04 -0700

Nick Eatman, of DallasCowboys.com, reports Dallas Cowboys DE Eric Ogbogu is expected to compete for a starting outside linebacker spot in the team's 3-4 defensive package during training camp.

Cowboys | Thornton to Compete for OLB Spot - from www.KFFL.com
Tue, 17 May 2005 21:12:17 -0700

Nick Eatman, of DallasCowboys.com, reports Dallas Cowboys LB Kalen Thornton is expected to compete for a starting outside linebacker spot during training camp.
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At this point, isn't it safe to say that everyone is competing for a job, starting or not?

That being said, I like Thorton. I would be pretty pleased with:

Ware: WOLB
Nguyen: WILB
Burnett: SILB
Thorton: SOLB

Not an experienced bunch, but I expect to see a LB rotation anyhow (subs involving Singleton, Shanle, maybe Fowler...)
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Thornton and Ogbogu are competing to back up Ware period, no way we have two converted DEs at OLB in a 3-4.
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I was more surprised with the Eric Ogbogu being mentioned as competing for the OLB notice it said 34 nothing about a 43 wheres nors he'd be all over this...
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I was more surprised with the Eric Ogbogu being mentioned as competing for the OLB notice it said 34 nothing about a 43 wheres nors he'd be all over this...
Nothing is set in stone, despite the I told you so we have been getting.

We still have more quality depth on the DL than at LB, if you honestly put our best 11 on the field it's in a 4-3 and not a 3-4. Please explain the logic of putting the likes of Shanle, James or Thornton on the field over a pro bowler like Glover?
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At this point, isn't it safe to say that everyone is competing for a job, starting or not?

That being said, I like Thorton. I would be pretty pleased with:

Ware: WOLB
Nguyen: WILB
Burnett: SILB
Thorton: SOLB

Not an experienced bunch, but I expect to see a LB rotation anyhow (subs involving Singleton, Shanle, maybe Fowler...)
I think James will win out the SOLB spot over Thornton. But honestly, this isn't a LB corps which scares me.
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I expect Singleton, James and Dat to see the field a fair amount. They have the only real experience. Ware and then Thorton/others are going to have to fight for time. Yes, I expect Ware to contribute. Until I see him I don't know how much he will. It will depend on how well he contributes and how fast he learns as well as earns Bill's trust. Same for Burnett et al. I just don't see Bill throwing a bunch of rookies and people who have played little on the field all at the same time.
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I was more surprised with the Eric Ogbogu being mentioned as competing for the OLB notice it said 34 nothing about a 43 wheres nors he'd be all over this...
It as good as a done deal we are going 3-4.
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I expect Singleton, James and Dat to see the field a fair amount. They have the only real experience. Ware and then Thorton/others are going to have to fight for time. Yes, I expect Ware to contribute. Until I see him I don't know how much he will. It will depend on how well he contributes and how fast he learns as well as earns Bill's trust. Same for Burnett et al. I just don't see Bill throwing a bunch of rookies and people who have played little on the field all at the same time.
Singleton gets cut

Burnett if Hip is ready this year pushes all for starting time. Ware gets OLB spot in 3-4
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Im Still A Little Confused On Where D.ware Is Going To Play If Thorton & Ogbogu Are Compeating For A Starting Spot.
I Also Think I Read Somewhere That James Was Going Inside In The 3-4
I Just Cant Imagine We Wpould Draft Ware 11th And Not Start.
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Singleton gets cut

Burnett if Hip is ready this year pushes all for starting time. Ware gets OLB spot in 3-4
Well Nors I glad you can predict the future so well. I would like your advice in the stock market yada.

I don't think we can do more than hope Ware, Burnett and all do as well as we all hope. It's a mistake to think that every rookie is going to start IMO. If most of them contribute some much less a lot then I'll be happy.

I wouldn't cut Singleton yet either. Better wait and see how the rest of the LB corps works out. Singleton has more experience than any of the others and while I bemoan the lack of big plays he does steadily go about his job. Could he be cut? Sure. Will he? I doubt it with only two regulars returning and James being still an unknown.

The rest are learning. BooBoo at OLB? Give me a break. If he can do that my hats off to him. And he has much more experience than a certain player from a Div II school and Thorton who played how much last year?

Burnett has the best chance of being a regular. Ware will likely start out as a situational player and go from there. If he's all world this year then great but I wouldn't bet on it right now.
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BZ the only "logic" you need to know is Parcells is taking over to what he knows HE can & will coach...Its the 3-4...

Give me Ware & Thornton outside
With James & Burnett inside...
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BZ the only "logic" you need to know is Parcells is taking over to what he knows HE can & will coach...Its the 3-4...

Give me Ware & Thornton outside
With James & Burnett inside...
WOw. You would take unprovens like ware, thornton, burnett, and james over nguyen and glover.
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Thorton is a hell of a pass-rusher... I think that Bradie James is due to start though but let all of em compete...
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Well Nors I glad you can predict the future so well. I would like your advice in the stock market yada.

I don't think we can do more than hope Ware, Burnett and all do as well as we all hope. It's a mistake to think that every rookie is going to start IMO. If most of them contribute some much less a lot then I'll be happy.

I wouldn't cut Singleton yet either. Better wait and see how the rest of the LB corps works out. Singleton has more experience than any of the others and while I bemoan the lack of big plays he does steadily go about his job. Could he be cut? Sure. Will he? I doubt it with only two regulars returning and James being still an unknown.

The rest are learning. BooBoo at OLB? Give me a break. If he can do that my hats off to him. And he has much more experience than a certain player from a Div II school and Thorton who played how much last year?

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