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Old 05-31-2005   #46
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He's not real interactive with guys. Kinda keeps to himself. At this point, he doesn't seem like that outlandish, loud player he was in his highlight film. Perhaps for the reason someone mentioned above: the fact he can't be out there participating with guys might have an effect on how comfortable he feels in there at this point. Only time will tell.
dale do you have an updates? Like who impressed or disapointed? How do the rookies look? Is roy taking to his new role well?
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Yeah like calling Canty a "dick" sorry but that was uncalled for by someone who is suppose to be a professional writer. He could have said that Canty had a poor attitude. Chances are he did not say that to Canty face or else he would have been picking his teeth off the ground.
Maybe he could've restated his opinion, but it doesn't change what he thought and more than likely it was done to generate the amount of type that's going on right now on this board. What has generated more posts in this thread, "Canty being a di**." Do you think if he'd wrote some PC comment like "Canty seemed to have a poor attitude" that we'd have this many posts?

Then again, with this board, you never can tell. So maybe that's not a good example.

But the point is, the guy made many observations in the article and yet the only one that seems to have generated anything has been his thoughts on Canty.
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I'd say a rookie on crutches being rude is a concern.
And what if Kevin Burnett was not a nice fellow? What then?

Honestly, who cares if he snubs the media or not? If Canty were a headcase, Coach Parcells would have heard it directly from Al Groh.

Canty gets a little disgusted by the media jackals and now he is Duane Thomas reincarnated?

If this is the biggest problem we have from him, we are in good shape.
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Actually he wrote two books on the Cowboys.

He covered the 9ers for the San fran paper before coming to Dallas.

He has been known as Jerry's back-pocket boy because he always is upbeat about the team rather than the sensational reporting you find with Hansen or Galloway.

But the guy has inside access like few others.

I used to listen to him daily when he was at KLIF. He was the one that reported Deion would wear the star MONTHS before anyone else. He gotr that from Jerry back right after the Superbowl was played by San Fran and the Chargers, but before the probowl.

I also had the opportunity to chat with him for a while and he related the story Jerry told him in private about the Jerry/Jimmy break-up.

What has been printed in Dallas about this issue isn't even in the same zip code as the truth.

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Yep. Fish is damn solid with the reporting. And he is generally ahead of the curve when it comes to the Cowboys. Has been for years. I'm an avid listener from 12-3.
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Maybe he could've restated his opinion, but it doesn't change what he thought and more than likely it was done to generate the amount of type that's going on right now on this board. What has generated more posts in this thread, "Canty being a di**." Do you think if he'd wrote some PC comment like "Canty seemed to have a poor attitude" that we'd have this many posts?

Then again, with this board, you never can tell. So maybe that's not a good example.

But the point is, the guy made many observations in the article and yet the only one that seems to have generated anything has been his thoughts on Canty.
I understand what your saying but I expect some professionalism from those in the media just as we expect athletes to act professional and when they don't we all come down on them for it. For the most part I like what I saw in the article just did not like the name calling from someone in his position.
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And what if Kevin Burnett was not a nice fellow? What then?

Honestly, who cares if he snubs the media or not? If Canty were a headcase, Coach Parcells would have heard it directly from Al Groh.

Canty gets a little disgusted by the media jackals and now he is Duane Thomas reincarnated?

If this is the biggest problem we have from him, we are in good shape.
My thoughts exactly. So he treats the media like jerks. Lots of players do. If I were in a position to be interesting to the media, they'd hate me. I know they would, because I would tell them to go away.

He is, of course, entitled to his opinion on Canty, but if his only knock is his attitude to the media, we are in good shape.
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And what if Kevin Burnett was not a nice fellow? What then?

Honestly, who cares if he snubs the media or not? If Canty were a headcase, Coach Parcells would have heard it directly from Al Groh.

Canty gets a little disgusted by the media jackals and now he is Duane Thomas reincarnated?

If this is the biggest problem we have from him, we are in good shape.
Have you met Canty? Do you know what Groh said?

Fisher has met the guy and judges him a less than friendly guy and states evenly that he has never seen that from a rookie anywhere. Sorry but thats bad news period.

I have no idea if any of these guys have bad attitudes or not, thats kinda why I rely on the reporters.

Canty is a 4th round pick who has had some off-field issues. He is now at the least annoyed by the media even though he cant do much else but talk. How's he gonna feel when they ask him why he isn't starting or how come he couldn't get pressure on 3rd and long? This is the wrong team for a guy who doesn't like media attention. He's gonan be swimming in a pool of sharks and any attitude is just blood.

Demarcus Ware was absolutely bubbly with the media. He seems a genuinely nice guy.
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My thoughts exactly. So he treats the media like jerks. Lots of players do. If I were in a position to be interesting to the media, they'd hate me. I know they would, because I would tell them to go away.

He is, of course, entitled to his opinion on Canty, but if his only knock is his attitude to the media, we are in good shape.
You mean other than what like getting hit with bottles in the eye? :~

Time to tap the breaks on this guy and see if he comes close to panning out.
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We just converted half our LB to DL. We have a 30m starting DL, it better be pretty friggin good.
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You mean other than what like getting hit with bottles in the eye? :~

Time to tap the breaks on this guy and see if he comes close to panning out.
Why not wait and judge him by his play on the field. Not being friendly with the media is not a sin it also may not be indicative of his personality either. Who is to say Canty was not bitten by the media in the past or is just very leery of them?
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Let's be specific about where this info comes from. Fish runs a website owned by Mark Cuban, discussing the Mavs.

He has messageboards attached.

The quote you read was a post he made in the Cowboys section.

http://p073.ezboard.com/fdallasbasketballdotcomfrm7

I hope this isn't violating any rules of this board by posting this link. That was not my intention.

I wouldn't characterize Fish's comments to be placed in a spot to be seen by a great deal of people. I post on that board, and there are a total of 1600 members. A small bit of reasearch reveals that the Cowboys section has less than 3100 posts in toto.

It is predominately about basketball, so his comments wouldn't be seen by many who travel their to begin with.

I would be a lot more suspect of the comments by Dale Hansen, who has a platform that influences. Dale Hansen is miffed primarily because Parcells can shut down the pipeline to info Dale has feasted at until Bill's arrival.

When you have inside info, and can scoop the competition. You don't normally look kindly on the guy who shuts that conduit down.

There are bigger Fish in the sea than Mike Fisher, who target the Cowboys with their own agendas.
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Duane did more than not talk to the media, Thomas was talking to no one including teammates. It got to the point that he would sit in meeting with his back towards the coaching staff never looking up front. Great thing with Landry is no matter how good a player was when it got to that point you were a goner. As for Canty I would not put to much into this artical as of yet
I was trying to make the point about Duane not talking to anyone including the coaches. But I forgot about the fact he talked to no one including teammates and completely forgot the turn the chair thing around.
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Mike Fisher is most positive Cowboys writer around and if he says someone is a richard he must be pretty abrasive. He always takes up for the players , so Canty must really have a tude !
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Why not wait and judge him by his play on the field. Not being friendly with the media is not a sin it also may not be indicative of his personality either. Who is to say Canty was not bitten by the media in the past or is just very leery of them?
I remember reading articles about Rasheed Wallace of Detroit when he was at Carolina. Basically, everybody said he was a Jerk and that he was a definatly trouble. Well, he has not been the Model player from a marketing perspective, it's true. I'll tell ya one thing though. He's great with kids. He does everything for them. He's great with team mates and he's a good team player. He's really uncoverable when he has his jumper going and he D's up. He doesn't care if he gets 10 or 30. He's a real good team player IMO.

You don't know until they get out an play. Let's see what this guy brings. He can cry all day for all I care. If he can play defense and be counted on to be a good teammate, that's all that counts.
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Canty is a 4th round pick who has had some off-field issues. He is now at the least annoyed by the media even though he cant do much else but talk. How's he gonna feel when they ask him why he isn't starting or how come he couldn't get pressure on 3rd and long? This is the wrong team for a guy who doesn't like media attention. He's gonan be swimming in a pool of sharks and any attitude is just blood.
Its coming in July if he isn't ready to start camp.

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I agree. It was just one man's observations about the minicamp.

Folks just don't wanna hear anything bad about our new draft picks.
Correct.

Told you I had a good buzz from preseason/draft. I don't want to lose it. Allow me a brief moment of elation before I have to reenter the real world again.
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