PFT-Sunday Edion--Sean Taylor's career could be over!

[DBoys]

Too funny

[big dog cowboy]

This just keeps getting better and better.

[Chocolate Lab]

Originally Posted by Hoods

I made this:

[The30YardSlant]

This thread is borderline legendary

[Hoods]

Originally Posted by Duane

You're pic made a front page stickie on Extremeskins, way to go man!!!

http://extremeskins.com/forums/showt...hreadid=103529

Lol, great.

[SkinsandTerps]

Sean Taylor - Idiot.

Hoping that this is all a blown out of proportion incident, but who really knows.

The fact that he was even in a situation like this is bad enough. But to be the alleged shooter ? Seriously, ? I hope the first thing he did when he knew the cops where looking for him is call his Father, then his agent, then his lawyer. And now I hope he has chartered a jet to DC to get his dumba$$ involved with the rest of the team. The rest of the guys must be thinking the same things that we all are. He needs to build a lot of trust back with his teammates and coaches.

I think he will plea to the simple assault for hitting the person. The gun charges will be dropped and he will get probation, fined, and have some serious community service hours (which will be easy with the NFL being heavily involved with the United Way) . However any leverage that he thought he had for a new contract has been thrown out of the window. He will have to be a model citizen with no issues for at least 2 years IMO.

[jterrell]

Originally Posted by LaTunaNostra

I am almost always sympathetic to bleeding-heart degree with all the league's self-indulgent bad boys..their substance abuse, their posses, their generational foibles.

But anyone who points a gun at someone needs the rude awakening that only 'the can' can instill.

It doesn't matter that nobody got hurt. The second a gun is pointed, the probablity of serious injury or even death reaches critical mass.

This one needs to be prosecuted to the full extent.

And really, with our boys and gals dying in Iraq, I don't think Bush is gonna waste any time on this jerk-off. What a mockery...those forced to use guns to protect us compared with this punk playing Mad Maxx.

Bush's brother, however, the guv of Fla, might just ask his AG to make an example of him.

And I would be saying the same if he were my favorite player.

I absolutely agree.

I am fairly easy going on drug suspensions(heck I still like Ricky Weed Williams) but gun toting and firing just general violence toward others can not be allowed by an NFL player. The more you have the more you have to lose and now Sean Taylor can figure that out.

Had Taylor been in DC working out, chances are this doesn't happen but dollar conscious agents thought they were advising him smartly to skip camp and try and earn a secondary signing bonus. Great advice, obviously.

[kmd24]

Originally Posted by LaTunaNostra

well, there's the first salvo in the 'slap-on-the-wrist' theory.

I've seen higher bail for jaywalking.

I wouldn't consider ST a huge flight risk. That's usually the first consideration with bail, isn't it?

[Hoods]

Originally Posted by SkinsandTerps

Sean Taylor - Idiot.

Hoping that this is all a blown out of proportion incident, but who really knows.

The fact that he was even in a situation like this is bad enough. But to be the alleged shooter ? Seriously, ? I hope the first thing he did when he knew the cops where looking for him is call his Father, then his agent, then his lawyer. And now I hope he has chartered a jet to DC to get his dumba$$ involved with the rest of the team. The rest of the guys must be thinking the same things that we all are. He needs to build a lot of trust back with his teammates and coaches.

[View Full Quote]I think he will plea to the simple assault for hitting the person. The gun charges will be dropped and he will get probation, fined, and have some serious community service hours (which will be easy with the NFL being heavily involved with the United Way) . However any leverage that he thought he had for a new contract has been thrown out of the window. He will have to be a model citizen with no issues for at least 2 years IMO.

In your ideal word, yes.

However, if he's found guilty of actually firing the gun then he's serving a minimum time of 10 years. No questions asked.

[Crown Royal]

I am not sympathizing with anyone, so don't go there.

And I am not a bleeding heart, don't go there either.

Finally, if you like the things I say in this post, don't applaud me or tell me 'good post, let's keep this in perspective guys, he's a human being.' I don't care.

But this thread appals me. First, let's translate some things into legalese, shall we? First - Taylor allegedly shot at a house. He has been charged of shooting at a house. The words alleged and did are very, very different words. This disclaimer is extremely, extremely important, because the fact is, Taylor has been CONVICTED OF NOTHING REGARDING THIS CASE IN A COURT OF LAW WITH A JURY OF HIS PEERS.

Which leads me to my next point - the 'hoping he gets what is coming' or 'this guy is a punk and i hope he rots in jail for 10-15 years.' Why? He has been accused of something, not convicted. Again, an important distinction, and a dangerous one.

I normally do not comment at ALL on court cases that I have not read a full or portioned transcript, for the sheer fact that I have not been privy to the arguments or evidence for or against the accused. I will not start now. All that I know is what everyone else knows - that which has been reported in the newspapers. A witness (who seems to have reported a few different things) reports that (s)he saw someone who looks like Sean Taylor fire shots at a house in Dade County, Florida. There are a few other details it seems, but I leave that to the reader to seek out.

Further - the issue of a Florida resident, Sean Taylor, allegedly firing a gun at a house in Dade County, Florida, is an entirely separate issue from Sean Taylor, NFL Professional safety for the Washington Redskins. One ought not to involve itself with the other. Not to say it won't, but it shouldn't. If this were Julius Jones, Clinton Portis, or a guy who happens to be reading this, the law ought not to concern itself with the difference.

Which leads me, finally, to the point some have said like "he will get off....yeah right, like an NFL player will get jailtime....look at OJ....look at Jamal Lewis.....etc." The most common thing I have seen is plea bargains. The argument was that a prosecutor might allow a plea bargain on the case if, for instance, there is a weak witness, or they don't feel it could be successful in trial, or even make it past a Grand Jury. Then, I think I read, "that is a shame." Why? The plea bargain allows a few things: 1, it shows that the accused is making some sort of admission to guilt, and 2, allows punishment for some crime, although usually a lesser crime, finally 3, it allows the prosecutor, who may not have a strong case, to at least see some sort of justice served. Just because defense attorneys have the reputation of craftiness doesn't make a prosecutor a moron.

I will make a disclaimer - I am NOT an attorney, nor am I an attorney in training. I have no aspiration for law school, nor do watch court TV. But I don't believe what I read in John Grisham books (who stopped being an attorney when he discovered a talent for the dramatic novel).

Anyhow - just my $.02 on the situation. Hope it helps.

[Crown Royal]

Originally Posted by kmd24

I wouldn't consider ST a huge flight risk. That's usually the first consideration with bail, isn't it?

That among other things. But I wouldn't consider him a flight risk either - unless he ignores his attorneys and decides the Spanish Riviera is nice this time of year.

[Fletch]

Originally Posted by Compacity

Well if you come up to me and try to shoot me, I was a initiated person that you was trying to kill, he didn't have no initiated person he was trying to kill, he just fired off...

Sorry guy, you're diggin an even deeper hole with stupid comments.

[Hoods]

Originally Posted by Compacity

Well if you come up to me and try to shoot me, I was a initiated person that you was trying to kill, he didn't have no initiated person he was trying to kill, he just fired off...

You think like that until one of your loved ones is killed by a stray drive-by shot. Don't even go there man. What you said is disgusting.

[zagnut]

Originally Posted by LaTunaNostra

I'm tryin', WG, I'm tryin'..

And you'd think decades of Scorcese flicks and film noir not to mention five seasons of the Sopranos would give me a clue about what to do with a, ummm, Mac.

I clearly can't think hood-like either. I see the word Mac and I either want to ask for fries and a vanilla shake or use it to connect to the internets.

I have no sympathy for Taylor, but one of the more sad parts of this event is that he was considered one of the smart ones at Miami.

[Hoods]

Originally Posted by zagnut

I have no sympathy for Taylor, but one of the more sad parts of this event is that he was considered one of the smart ones at Miami.

According to who? He scored a 10 in his wonder-lic.