Cowboyz Zone II league is a joke of a league...

[dargonking999]

Originally Posted by jcollins28

O.k then you need to take care of this;

8/13 Trade Reject Time changed from '7 days' to '1 day'
8/10 Can't Cut List changed from 'Yahoo! Sports' to 'None'
8/10 Waiver Time changed from '7 days' to '1 day'
8/10 Trade End Date changed from '2005-11-18' to 'No trade deadline'
8/10 Trade Reject Time changed from 'No Protests' to '7 days'

Those rules are not par for Cowboyszone leagues so please fix it.

Thanks,

Jason

i thought you wanted the one day trade reject time

[jcollins28]

Originally Posted by dargonking999

i thought you wanted the one day trade reject time

Yeah sorry that is fine was talking about the other stuff like no cant cut list and things like that.

[dargonking999]

Originally Posted by jcollins28

Yeah sorry that is fine was talking about the other stuff like no cant cut list and things like that.

well its a two is better anyways

[jcollins28]

Considering the draft change and several owners missing the draft and the weird trades. I think it would be best to follow WOOHITZ directions and delete this league so we can start fresh. We still have lots of time to get a new draft in. Sorry dargon but considering what has happened already I just do not trust that once we get into the middle of the season that something strange will not happen again.

[NorthDalal]

Leagues that allow votes on trades or even the negating of trades are always going to spiral into argument.
I can only assume you guys are playing for free and have an inexperienced commish.

My league is completely different and yes I am the commisioner and we do have a rules lunch Sept. 1 at Two Rows Addison, (TX) and we will agree on the rules changes for the new yr. and then.... they will not change. Decisions of the commish are final and he must recuse himself on matters effecting his team in favor of the asst. Commissioner/ Treasurer.There were no controversies last year.This is a money league-it makes all the difference in diminshing collusion and unfair transactions.
This is my 4th year. and we have members with more yrs.

We are probably open to add one team this week. email alsamara@hotmail.com for info.

[jksmith269]

Originally Posted by jcollins28

Not sure which one of these clowns is the league director at Cowboyszone II league but one of them is. There is some downright colusion going on here before the season ever starts. Here is what just went down...

dargonking999 and jkSmith269 proposed a trade. The trade was for the following players

DDargonking999 would send P.Manning and B Lloyd to jksmith269 for M.Vick and A.Boldin. The trade was subject for review and to be voted to be approved by the other team owners. The trade was voted down by the other league owners so dargonking or jksmith changed the trade process to NO PROTEST and then they redid this lopsided trade.

[View Full Quote]Now dargonking999 drafted P.Manning in the 1st rnd with the #1 pick in the draft. M.Vick was drafted in rnd 8 #75th pick by jksmith269. Who in their right mind trades the #1 overall pick for the 8th pick in the draft? dargonking is either very dumb or he also owns the jksmith team. Last year in my Cowboyszone league one owner ruined it for everyone when he got pissed that Ricky retired so he cut all his players now this year this happens. Looks like this will be the last Cowboyszone FF league I take part in.

I actually think it was a fairly fair trade for both he got vick and boldin I got manning and some no name receiver for the niners who I'm trying to move. and actually DK accidently canceled his own trade the first time and it was just redone no one voted it down that I know of. I'm not the commish of the league and don't know who is but to call us out like that is just wrong. as a matter of fact I wasn't even present when the draft went down I set my order before hand and I didn't have vick on it at all I guess when that pick came up the cpu gave me the best rated player left. are you in the league? I hope so because now beating someone there will be just a little sweeter.....

[jksmith269]

Ok now that I've got past the first post and read the entire thread I see DK is the comish which I honestly had no Idea.

Second My team is loaded what are you talking about. look at my receivers I gave up boldin which is an improvement for DK to get manning. but I still have Harrison and Larry Fitzgerald who will have a great year. add todd Heap at TE and C williams at RB with Jones and Lee evans in Buffalo. I actually think I have great WR's and good RB's then throw in baltimore's and Dallas's D and I think I win this league.

[AtlCB]

Originally Posted by Danny White

No offense, but neither of these teams looks all that fearsome, even after the trade.

Usually when you see a trade like this, the worry is that you've effectively given one team the equivalent of two first round picks. In JKs case, though, I don't see any first round players on his roster (other than Manning now). I assume he picked at the end of the first round and got Harrison, and then Jones on the turn-around.

Unfortunately for JK, Boldin was his second best WR.

Outside of Harrison and Kevin Jones, he really didn't have that much to offer in return for Manning.

Normally, dargon should get some better value for the #1 overall pick, but if he had his heart set on Vick, then there wasn't that much more that JK could offer.

[View Full Quote]Honestly, jcollins, you should be thrilled that dargon made this trade. With Manning, he had a stacked team... a little weak at WR, but very deep otherwise. Now he looks beatable unless Vick has a breakout year. Meanwhile JK looks decent, but certainly not loaded.

It's one of those cases where it was an unbalanced trade, but the end result isn't earth-shattering. If anything, it brought the two teams in question close to each other in quality, instead of creating one superteam at the other's expense.

I am also in this league. This is the reason that I did not veto this trade. The trade was idiotic, but I thought it severely weakened one of my leagues best teams and strengthened one of the worst.

[Panhandler]

guys, You don't change the rules after a league is set up -- so you can make a trade. Bad taste..........

[marsbennett]

Originally Posted by WOOHITZ

I'm really disappointed to be reading a thread like this. It doesn't look good for the board, especially when its named after the Cowboys Zone. DargonKing asked to run one of the leagues, said he had plenty of experience and I needed the help, since I was running 2 other CZ leagues, plus my own local and not to mention some others i play in. In my opinion, once the integrity of the league has been questioned..Its already ruined. I would HIGHLY recommend deleting this league. Dargon, the rules were setup to be "uniform" across all leagues. I believe if the owners voted against your lobsided trade, then you follow the rules. I've been hearing about your kind of trades for alittle while now. In fact, I received a proposal between you and Thepieman owner in CZFFL III. I'm embarrassed to even name the proposed players, but needless to say I Declined it. Listen, these leagues are suppose to be fun...but fair. I have nothing at stake here. This is not a money league, [View Full Quote]so i'm not going to waste alot of effort on this but I will not allow this kind of nonsense in CZFFL I or III.

BB

I tried to tell you before the draft via PM and now look. You had the evidence and let it slide....Dargon ****s up another league with schoolmates or multiple teams...whichever....it makes thezone look bad for a jackarse like this to have any authority over a league. He's a maroon and you knew it....at least I tried to warn you.