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Old 07-20-2004   #91
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I just wish I could find as much solace and comfort in "insurance" as you guys do, especially when our "insurance" has proven to be a bad football player. I don't find comfort knowing we have proven bad players on our football team. Especially when those bad players are old, and have no shot of getting better.

I mean ... come on. You think Hambrick was bad? Hambrick had a better ypc than George. George had 300 carries last year and his longest run was 27 yards. Hambrick had 275 carries and had a long run of 42 yards. George only had 5 games last year where he had a run for 15 yards or longer. Hambrick had 6 games last year where he had a run of 15 yards or longer.

You have to suck pretty bad to make Troy Hambrick look like a breakaway threat.

George did not play against the invisible defensive line of the Redskinz like Hambrick did...

Ok Sorry..I saw a chance to rip on the skins and had to take advantage. :p


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I just wish I could find as much solace and comfort in "insurance" as you guys do, especially when our "insurance" has proven to be a bad football player. I don't find comfort knowing we have proven bad players on our football team. Especially when those bad players are old, and have no shot of getting better.

I mean ... come on. You think Hambrick was bad? Hambrick had a better ypc than George. George had 300 carries last year and his longest run was 27 yards. Hambrick had 275 carries and had a long run of 42 yards. George only had 5 games last year where he had a run for 15 yards or longer. Hambrick had 6 games last year where he had a run of 15 yards or longer.

You have to suck pretty bad to make Troy Hambrick look like a breakaway threat.
Honestly Inman I don't know how people, all of whom I respect like "Regan" (AKA LaTuna), would dare suggest we dig up this corpse and put him on the roster. Eddie George is the living dead. The only place he should be seen is in the next George Romero flick.
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Memo to BP, memo to BP.

Eddie George did not play for Marshall.

Good debate tho. Pretty persuasive arguments on both sides.

Might just come down to that coin toss after all.
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Honestly Inman I don't know how people, all of whom I respect like "Regan" (AKA LaTuna), would dare suggest we dig up this corpse and put him on the roster. Eddie George is the living dead. The only place he should be seen is in the next George Romero flick.
So I'm (sorta) buying the swampland, Mikey. (insert emoticon ping pong ball)

Make that re-make the "Creature from the Black Lagoon".

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Honestly Inman I don't know how people, all of whom I respect like "Regan" (AKA LaTuna), would dare suggest we dig up this corpse and put him on the roster. Eddie George is the living dead. The only place he should be seen is in the next George Romero flick.
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SOB Mike... I was told they were your mom!

At least that's what your dad said.
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Memo to BP, memo to BP.

Eddie George did not play for Marshall.

Good debate tho. Pretty persuasive arguments on both sides.

Might just come down to that coin toss after all.

Trust me if you have watched Marshall football over the years you would know that a good RB coming out of HS would never go to marshall...that place is all about the QB and WRs aka Passing game.

And before you get the wrong idea....I am not thinking that Eddie is the be all end all to put us over the top.

I just want insurance and to be honest he seems like the best of the bunch currently available....you do not see me calling for them to bring in A.Murrell (who played at WVU).

But I could see EG playing a roll similar to what Hoard did for Minnesota a few years back.

I think Madden kept saying that Hoard would tell him...If you need me to get 2 yards I will give you 3.....if you need me to get you 15 I will get you 3 LOL

But he did serve well for Minny in some situations....I do NOT want eddie to come in here to be the starter.

Now like I said before I think he is the best of the bunch out there....but if not him then lets look at someone else that is out there and cheap like A.Smith or Mack or someone.

IMO it is still better then a combo of Lee and Cason ...and Anderson mixed in...incase one of them has to take over the starting spot.

I really wish there were BETTER options out there...but as it stands IMO bill screwed up last year by not bringing in more RBs and I think they did the same this year with the money they had.

Now maybe my worries will go away if Julius pans out and stays healthy this year...but just like I was worried last year (and later found to be with good cause as hambrick sucked as a STARTER)....I will worry this year until proven otherwise.


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RW, you are correct that RA was never a power fullback, a brusiing blocker. Always the "versatile" receiving type. But for many year he was a successful blocker for Curtis Martin, who maintained Richie has the vision and patience to set up blocks for him, and the shiftiness to lead him out well. Called him the ideal blocker for his own running style. And Martin is a guy who was blocked for by the likes of Sam Gash.

RA probably would never have had as long a career as he had if he had tried to make it as a tail. Certainly never had the makings of a starting feature back. In fact, it was only compared to Tham that I ever even imagined him a tailback.
Anderson is a throwback to a day when fullbacks were weapons with versatility. They weren't one dimensional.

He has managed to hang on this long by not being a problem but a solution.

I didn't know Martin thought that much of him as a blocker. I guess we didn't have a good enough runner to take advantage of him. I'm adjusting my impression of his abilities. Let's see how Jones and Anderson team up.

I'd like to think that Parcells won't just feed the ball to someone to satisfy their hunger for numbers. I don't think we have a ball club that can prosper with an offensive plan of here we come, you know what we're going to do and we not only dare you to stop it, but you can't. Smith et al are gone. But who knows. I wouldn't mind a reincarnation of the early 90s offense as long as it's as successful.
Did you know there are only 5000 Snow Leopards in the wild now and they are confined to Central Asia? However, the effective global population (those likely to reproduce) is less than half that number.
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Trust me if you have watched Marshall football over the years you would know that a good RB coming out of HS would never go to marshall...that place is all about the QB and WRs aka Passing game.

And before you get the wrong idea....I am not thinking that Eddie is the be all end all to put us over the top.

I just want insurance and to be honest he seems like the best of the bunch currently available....you do not see me calling for them to bring in A.Murrell (who played at WVU).

But I could see EG playing a roll similar to what Hoard did for Minnesota a few years back.

I think Madden kept saying that Hoard would tell him...If you need me to get 2 yards I will give you 3.....if you need me to get you 15 I will get you 3 LOL

But he did serve well for Minny in some situations....I do NOT want eddie to come in here to be the starter.

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What I'm worried about is Eddie's perception of himself being a starter for more than a year and wanting the ball a lot.

I have no problem if Parcells brings him here to start as long as Jones gets enough carries to learn the game for next year. In fact the more I think of it the more I like that aspect of it.

However, I do have a problem with George taking someones roster spot that could contribute close to the same for less money and have a future here.

If we found we didn't have much at RB several weeks into camp and George was available then I'd take him to play a limited role. Don't ask me to define that as it would be everchanging and depend on injuries, the team up next, how they did in the game, yada.

I'd like to think someone steps up but George is an option even if I don't like it. He's the older second car in the driveway. You don't want to drive it long distances but it will get you to your job.

George is super dependable or at least has been and he can get the job done although he can't win the Daytona 500. He'll just be there at the end somewhere.

I think he will sign somewhere else to get a chance to be productive this year. However, I'm often wrong. Hope he doesn't go to Philly. Come on Oakland. Don't let me down (I have no idea if they even need him. Just stay in the AFC Eddie).
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George did not play against the invisible defensive line of the Redskinz like Hambrick did...

Ok Sorry..I saw a chance to rip on the skins and had to take advantage. :p
I know you were being funny(that was funny), but George actually faced a worse ranked rushing defense than Washington(24th) in Houston(31st) and Oakland(32nd). In those three games he had 58 carries for 181 yards.
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SOB Mike... I was told they were your mom!

At least that's what your dad said.
.................. ouch
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.................. ouch
I'm sorry Mike I didn't mean it!

Please don't get mad!

I take it back!
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I'm sorry Mike I didn't mean it!

Please don't get mad!

I take it back!
How could I get mad when I'm the one who started it
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How could I get mad when I'm the one who started it

Oh yeah you did!

I feel much better now.

Thanks Mike!
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What I'm worried about is Eddie's perception of himself being a starter for more than a year and wanting the ball a lot.

I have no problem if Parcells brings him here to start as long as Jones gets enough carries to learn the game for next year. In fact the more I think of it the more I like that aspect of it.

However, I do have a problem with George taking someones roster spot that could contribute close to the same for less money and have a future here.
I think Eddie may have that in his head...but I also think he will face a harsh reality that many do not see him as a starter anymore...I think this will also hit him in the wallet in terms of money he thinks he will get and what he will have to settle for in the end.

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If we found we didn't have much at RB several weeks into camp and George was available then I'd take him to play a limited role. Don't ask me to define that as it would be everchanging and depend on injuries, the team up next, how they did in the game, yada.
I can understand that...this will serve 3 purposes as well.

One it will give Eddie some time to test the market and find out that he probably will not get the money he wants...and also let it set in that he is no longer a starter but a role player/backup back. The last purpose is that who knows...maybe Lee or Cason really stands out and impresses the staff.

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I'd like to think someone steps up but George is an option even if I don't like it. He's the older second car in the driveway. You don't want to drive it long distances but it will get you to your job.

George is super dependable or at least has been and he can get the job done although he can't win the Daytona 500. He'll just be there at the end somewhere.
That is what I am saying...just insurance if we can find nothing else better.

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I think he will sign somewhere else to get a chance to be productive this year. However, I'm often wrong. Hope he doesn't go to Philly. Come on Oakland. Don't let me down (I have no idea if they even need him. Just stay in the AFC Eddie).
Just curious...If you are not too high on eddie...then why do you not want him to go to philly?


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