Goose with Norm on The Ticket...

[AsthmaField]

That's why I like this move. It won't take away from Julius' carries if Julius proves he should be getting the majority of them. I'd rather see Jones fight for the job than have it handed to him just because we don't have anyone else at running back.

That is exactly the way I think it'll play out. Julius, if he's what we hope will get most of the carries. If he isn't then we needed George anyway.

[MichaelWinicki]

Originally Posted by HTownCowboysFan

I agree. If we had signed EG to be "THE MAN," then I would have a problem with it. But that is not the case.

I expect JJ to start the season as the starting RB, and finish the season as the starting RB. EG's benefit will be to ge 12 or so carries a game, and perhaps in short yardage/goal line situations. He won't be expected to carry the load. And this will not stunt the development of Jones.

If the Cowboys had not brought EG in, then they would be saying that Dallas was stupid for not going after Jones w/no proven feature back on the roster. If someone else had signed EG, it would have been considered "A great move."

I'm trying to remember the "feature back" on the roster when Emmitt Smith was drafted...

[Doomsday101]

Originally Posted by MichaelWinicki

I'm trying to remember the "feature back" on the roster when Emmitt Smith was drafted...

Tommie Agee | 16 | 53 213 4.0 1 | 30 272 9.1 1 |
| Alonzo Highsmith | 7 | 19 48 2.5 0 | 3 13 4.3 0 |
| Daryl Johnston | 16 | 10 35 3.5 1 | 14 148 10.6 1 |
| Emmitt Smith | 16 | 241 937 3.9 11 | 24 228 9.5 0 |
| Timmy Smith | 1 | 6 6 1.0 0 | 0 0 0.0 0 |
+----------------------+----+-----------------------+----------------------+

[MichaelWinicki]

Originally Posted by Doomsday101

I agree with that statement, you find out pretty quickly what you have at the RB position when the pads come on. I think the main concern with most rookies is being able to handle the full 16 week schedule not including the pre-season games. Going from 10 games season to 20 will cause many rookie players to hit the wall late in the season.

I'm willing to bet that if we blew a 1st round draft pick on a running back a lot of these "arguments" about the "rightness" of signing Eddie George wouldn't exist.

But for some reason since Julius Jones was a 2nd rounder, he can't play a full season, he needs mentoring, he needs a leader behind him.

All weak.

[MichaelWinicki]

Originally Posted by Doomsday101

Tommie Agee | 16 | 53 213 4.0 1 | 30 272 9.1 1 |
| Alonzo Highsmith | 7 | 19 48 2.5 0 | 3 13 4.3 0 |
| Daryl Johnston | 16 | 10 35 3.5 1 | 14 148 10.6 1 |
| Emmitt Smith | 16 | 241 937 3.9 11 | 24 228 9.5 0 |
| Timmy Smith | 1 | 6 6 1.0 0 | 0 0 0.0 0 |
+----------------------+----+-----------------------+----------------------+

No feature backs there. Highsmith was hurt. Timmy Smith was a one-game wonder. Tommy Agee?

OMG.

[MichaelWinicki]

Originally Posted by HTownCowboysFan

I agree. If we had signed EG to be "THE MAN," then I would have a problem with it. But that is not the case.

I expect JJ to start the season as the starting RB, and finish the season as the starting RB. EG's benefit will be to ge 12 or so carries a game, and perhaps in short yardage/goal line situations. He won't be expected to carry the load. And this will not stunt the development of Jones.

If the Cowboys had not brought EG in, then they would be saying that Dallas was stupid for not going after Jones w/no proven feature back on the roster. If someone else had signed EG, it would have been considered "A great move."

And what kind of groove will either EG or JJ get into each getting a dozen carries per game?

My guess is "not much".

[Doomsday101]

Originally Posted by MichaelWinicki

I'm willing to bet that if we blew a 1st round draft pick on a running back a lot of these "arguments" about the "rightness" of signing Eddie George wouldn't exist.

But for some reason since Julius Jones was a 2nd rounder, he can't play a full season, he needs mentoring, he needs a leader behind him.

All weak.

I don't think that is the case at all, I thought the move of grabbing Jones was not a bad ideal and had we drafted any of the other backs listed at the top of the draft I still would want a vet back to help share the load. It make me no differance if you don't think many rookies hit the wall late in the season but I have heard many coaches say other wise. That does not hold true in every case but it does in many others especially at a physical position like RB

[Aikmaniac]

Originally Posted by MichaelWinicki

No feature backs there. Highsmith was hurt. Timmy Smith was a one-game wonder. Tommy Agee?

OMG.

Don't hate on Agee. That guy had a higher YPC than Eddie George.

[MichaelWinicki]

Originally Posted by Dale

I haven't read enough of Goose's articles to know his opinion on the matter, but did he really think the Cowboys were making a wise move entering the season with Cason and Lee as their primary backups at running back? I'm thinking not.

That's why I like this move. It won't take away from Julius' carries if Julius proves he should be getting the majority of them. I'd rather see Jones fight for the job than have it handed to him just because we don't have anyone else at running back.

Good players steal reps away from others. We'll see just how good Julius is.

I remember when our primary backup was "swirvn Curvin Richards". Not exactly a household name.

[MichaelWinicki]

Originally Posted by Aikmaniac

Don't hate on Agee. That guy had a higher YPC than Eddie George.

Good point.

I stand corrected.

[BrAinPaiNt]

Originally Posted by Doomsday101

I agree with that statement, you find out pretty quickly what you have at the RB position when the pads come on. I think the main concern with most rookies is being able to handle the full 16 week schedule not including the pre-season games. Going from 10 games season to 20 will cause many rookie players to hit the wall late in the season.

Agreed that and pass blocking is normally the only thing that a rookie RB has trouble with if he has the skills to start.

[Aikmaniac]

Originally Posted by MichaelWinicki

I remember when our primary backup was "swirvn Curvin Richards". Not exactly a household name.

Paul Palmer didn't have a decent backup either.

"Sherwin" Williams, "Swirvin" Richards, "Linda" Blair Thomas...

Thank God Emmitt was durable, huh?

[Doomsday101]

Originally Posted by BrAinPaiNt

Agreed that and pass blocking is normally the only thing that a rookie RB has trouble with if he has the skills to start.

Agreed, understanding the blitz packages in the NFL are a bit different than in college and it normally shows with rookie RB.

[dbair1967]

Originally Posted by trickblue

Goose:

• George is not the George of old and will be compared to Anderson
• George has 850 more carries than did OJ Anderson at the same point in their career
• George has 1000 more carries than Riggins did at the same point in their career
• George could be an effective spot player
• Every carry George gets is slowing the development of Julius Jones
• The defense is going to have to be great and the offense will have to be flawless
• The Williams retirement benefits Buffalo and may make them a playoff team
• Miami kissed his caboose with every demand and he left them high and dry
• Williams statement that he was using a masking agent is just inviting the NFL in for tougher enforcement
• Williams stood up at 6/22 practice and told the team that they need to rededicate themselves for this season
• If Williams DOES come back... Miami will [View Full Quote]probably try to move him
• With Miami obviously falling now... Buffalo could have a better record than Dallas
• This was more than likely a spur of the moment decision
• Idiot Miami fan calls in... tells phin fans to "stand-fast"... there will be a championship in Miami this year...
• Julius has to get the most carries by alot to learn in this league
• Many players in the league don't have a real passion to play in the NFL... high first rounders are set for life with signing bonuses... they have no incentive

Gosselin needs to stick to the draft because everything else he writes or talks about is usually badly flawed

how does giving a vet RB some carries stunt the "development" of a young RB? it isnt like playing QB...either you can with the ball or you cant...either you can run with vision and make people miss or you cant...sure some backs improve during a game getting more carries, but just because George splits carries with him this yr (if that does turn out to be the case) that doesnt mean J Jones' development as a player is curtailed...Tony Dorsett fared ok in a similar set up here didnt he?

yeah Buffalo benefits from R Williams retirement some, but Buffalo still has holes of its own...notably poor OL and a QB who hasnt been good or even adequate in a yr and a half now...they have a totally unproven rookie head coach as well...their defense was good last yr, can they play like that again minus their best CB?

Gosselin says our defense has to be great and offense flawless...why? our offense was pretty mediocre last yr and the defense was solid, but hardly "great" and we finished 10-6...I'd say if our defense is truly "great" and our offense is "flawless" we're looking at 12-14 wins, ala 1992-1995...Gosselin is a brainless dweeb sometimes...

David

[MichaelWinicki]

Originally Posted by BrAinPaiNt

Agreed that and pass blocking is normally the only thing that a rookie RB has trouble with if he has the skills to start.

OK, so we just blew a couple million bucks (at least) on a running back that can pass block.

Nice investment.