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07-26-2004
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Dark Days
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Originally Posted by trickblue
That plus the fact that Goose seems to have taken it personally that Dallas passed on Kevin Jones... he just can't get over it... the lust was apparent as he talked about him today during the report... I left that part out as it was regurge from every report he makes...
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Yes K.Jones gave him banana pants....He was talking him up over Jackson prior to the draft as well.
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07-26-2004
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Right Kind of Guy
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Funniest thread I have read in a long time. Thanks everyone. Brightened my day.
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07-26-2004
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#63
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Arch Defender
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Originally Posted by DallasCowpoke
You really don't think this coaching staff was going to go into a season with a RB with zero carries in the NFL backed up by one with 19 do you?
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if they thought he had enough talent to be a dependable backup (Bickerstaff) then yeah, I do...they had apparently zero interest in anyone until Bickerstaff went down as well...granted George wasnt available before, but George's numbers the past few seasons werent any better than some of the other backs we could have picked from at any other point this offseason either...
David
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07-26-2004
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Federal Agent
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Originally Posted by MichaelWinicki
Gee Goose thinks Eddie George is a waste...
Hmm, I'm getting to like the "Goose". 
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I agree. The only benefit I see to having George on the team would be around the goalline, but at the same time I would like to see how ReShard Lee would do in that role. George is a waste of time and money for the cowboys.
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07-26-2004
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Forum Architect
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Originally Posted by MichaelWinicki
I'm willing to bet that if we blew a 1st round draft pick on a running back a lot of these "arguments" about the "rightness" of signing Eddie George wouldn't exist.
But for some reason since Julius Jones was a 2nd rounder, he can't play a full season, he needs mentoring, he needs a leader behind him.
All weak.
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Tatum Bell, Chris Perry, Steven Jackson, etc aren't being handed starting jobs. About the only highly touted running back that figures to be a sure-fire starter is Kevin Jones.
Sometimes, you're in a situation where you're forced to start a rookie. Either you have so little depth that there are no alternatives, or you have so much money locked up in a draft pick that you can even think about starting another player.
But in Jones' case, neither applies. I agree we didn't need to go and sign the first guy available just to have "someone." It seems to me like we got a runner that complements George's style, has proven he can play hurt, and can take some pressure off if Jones isn't as good as some expect.
Like you have said, we have won with no-name backups before. But why discount the possibility of signing a veteran runner to provide depth and competition if it can be done without killing your cap or preventing your rookie from getting his chance to shine?
I was for signing George before it was ever rumored we were interested. But I also said that I was of the opinion he was highly overrated throughout the vast majority of his career.
His statistics weren't much different from Hambrick's last season, but his grit and toughness were. As was his work ethic, class and heart.
It's difficult to find a run where Hambrick actually broke through tackles, kept his balance and made a solid run. George can at least get you some tough yards. He won't spring many (read: any) big runs, but he does bring a tough, physical presence in the running game. He'll also likely support Parcells' message from the day he signed with the club.
I'm a fan of options, at as many positions as possible. That's why I liked the George signing.
In my mind, if Jones is as good as he potentially can be, that talent will be evident (as running back is considered one of the easier position to transition into the NFL at). If not, then we'll likely see more of George.
I just cringed at the thought of Cason being our most proven running back entering the season. Considering Lee wasn't good enough to lock himself onto the team last year that lacked talent at the position (he could have made it had he not gotten hurt, but it wasn't a sure thing), I have little faith that he'll become anything more in this league than the fringe player that he is. He's a great guy to root for, but realistically, it'll be tough for him to amount to much.
And I do indeed consider George an upgrade over Lee and Cason if any of them were to receive extensive amounts of carries. That, alone, was reason enough in my mind for the Cowboys to pursue George.
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07-26-2004
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#66
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Banned
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Originally Posted by Dale
Tatum Bell, Chris Perry, Steven Jackson, etc aren't being handed starting jobs. About the only highly touted running back that figures to be a sure-fire starter is Kevin Jones.
Sometimes, you're in a situation where you're forced to start a rookie. Either you have so little depth that there are no alternatives, or you have so much money locked up in a draft pick that you can even think about starting another player.
But in Jones' case, neither applies. I agree we didn't need to go and sign the first guy available just to have "someone." It seems to me like we got a runner that complements George's style, has proven he can play hurt, and can take some pressure off if Jones isn't as good as some expect.
[View Full Quote]Like you have said, we have won with no-name backups before. But why discount the possibility of signing a veteran runner to provide depth and competition if it can be done without killing your cap or preventing your rookie from getting his chance to shine?
I was for signing George before it was ever rumored we were interested. But I also said that I was of the opinion he was highly overrated throughout the vast majority of his career.
His statistics weren't much different from Hambrick's last season, but his grit and toughness were. As was his work ethic, class and heart.
It's difficult to find a run where Hambrick actually broke through tackles, kept his balance and made a solid run. George can at least get you some tough yards. He won't spring many (read: any) big runs, but he does bring a tough, physical presence in the running game. He'll also likely support Parcells' message from the day he signed with the club.
I'm a fan of options, at as many positions as possible. That's why I liked the George signing.
In my mind, if Jones is as good as he potentially can be, that talent will be evident (as running back is considered one of the easier position to transition into the NFL at). If not, then we'll likely see more of George.
I just cringed at the thought of Cason being our most proven running back entering the season. Considering Lee wasn't good enough to lock himself onto the team last year that lacked talent at the position (he could have made it had he not gotten hurt, but it wasn't a sure thing), I have little faith that he'll become anything more in this league than the fringe player that he is. He's a great guy to root for, but realistically, it'll be tough for him to amount to much.
And I do indeed consider George an upgrade over Lee and Cason if any of them were to receive extensive amounts of carries. That, alone, was reason enough in my mind for the Cowboys to pursue George.
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Yea.
What he said.

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07-27-2004
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#67
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"Friggin Joke Monkey"
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Originally Posted by Dale
Tatum Bell, Chris Perry, Steven Jackson, etc aren't being handed starting jobs. About the only highly touted running back that figures to be a sure-fire starter is Kevin Jones.
Sometimes, you're in a situation where you're forced to start a rookie. Either you have so little depth that there are no alternatives, or you have so much money locked up in a draft pick that you can even think about starting another player.
But in Jones' case, neither applies. I agree we didn't need to go and sign the first guy available just to have "someone." It seems to me like we got a runner that complements George's style, has proven he can play hurt, and can take some pressure off if Jones isn't as good as some expect.
[View Full Quote]Like you have said, we have won with no-name backups before. But why discount the possibility of signing a veteran runner to provide depth and competition if it can be done without killing your cap or preventing your rookie from getting his chance to shine?
I was for signing George before it was ever rumored we were interested. But I also said that I was of the opinion he was highly overrated throughout the vast majority of his career.
His statistics weren't much different from Hambrick's last season, but his grit and toughness were. As was his work ethic, class and heart.
It's difficult to find a run where Hambrick actually broke through tackles, kept his balance and made a solid run. George can at least get you some tough yards. He won't spring many (read: any) big runs, but he does bring a tough, physical presence in the running game. He'll also likely support Parcells' message from the day he signed with the club.
I'm a fan of options, at as many positions as possible. That's why I liked the George signing.
In my mind, if Jones is as good as he potentially can be, that talent will be evident (as running back is considered one of the easier position to transition into the NFL at). If not, then we'll likely see more of George.
I just cringed at the thought of Cason being our most proven running back entering the season. Considering Lee wasn't good enough to lock himself onto the team last year that lacked talent at the position (he could have made it had he not gotten hurt, but it wasn't a sure thing), I have little faith that he'll become anything more in this league than the fringe player that he is. He's a great guy to root for, but realistically, it'll be tough for him to amount to much.
And I do indeed consider George an upgrade over Lee and Cason if any of them were to receive extensive amounts of carries. That, alone, was reason enough in my mind for the Cowboys to pursue George.
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Very good post.
A lot of us feel this way, but can't articulate it like you do.
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07-27-2004
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Right Kind of Guy
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Originally Posted by Foo Fighter
Yea.
What he said.

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'Bout time you talked football with us instead of just politics. Get yer butt back in the game.
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