Are Drew's 5 GW drives a Dallas record? - Dallas Cowboys Forum

big_neil · 12-25-2005

Five times this season Drew has delivered a game winning drive. Without Drew at QB Dallas would likely have lost all 5 of those games, finding themselves with a 4-11 record right now.

For all the bashing Drew has taken I ask this: can anyone show me a Dallas QB that had 5 or more Game Winning drives in a single season? How about four game winning touchdown passes with less than 2 minutes to go (@SD, @SF, KC, @CAR), letalone against 3 winning teams and 3 road teams.

Some will raise the argument that other QBs always had the lead so they were still better. I disagree. I think Drew would have preferred the Defense not to blow the leads in all five games requiring a come back. The Defense has now blown late game leads in at least 7 games this season.

So bashers, it's on you: show me a Dallas (or even NFL) QB that had more than 5 GW drives in a single season.

twa · 12-25-2005

I give drew props for his play ,but don't be too hard on the D, they are among the league leaders in fewest points given up in the 4th quarter.

too lazy to check season stats,but Troy and Roger both had many come from behind wins.
For his career, Aikman led the Cowboys from behind 16 times in the fourth quarter, including six times in the final two minutes. Another six times, he led the team to wins after the score was tied in the fourth quarter. Five of his game-winning drives came in overtime.

I have supported Drew ,so I will leave trying to disprove it to another

TwoSteppinJJ · 12-25-2005

You make good points BIG neil and those are just some of the many reasons why I havent been bashing him. I think he has done a mighty fine job for us hes one of the best QB's to have in a balanced offense because he has such an a powerful arm and some good accuracy. But when he gets into situations where we are down by more than 1 score those are tough for him, or when we arent running the ball that well and he is forced to pass pretty much every down teams just take a run at him and our ****ty o line. Im very happy with the pickup of drew

but if you asked me that when we picked him up in the offseason I would have responded differently.

**MichaelWinicki** · 12-25-2005

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Originally Posted by big_neil

Five times this season Drew has delivered a game winning drive. Without Drew at QB Dallas would likely have lost all 5 of those games, finding themselves with a 4-11 record right now.

For all the bashing Drew has taken I ask this: can anyone show me a Dallas QB that had 5 or more Game Winning drives in a single season? How about four game winning touchdown passes with less than 2 minutes to go (@SD, @SF, KC, @CAR), letalone against 3 winning teams and 3 road teams.

Some will raise the argument that other QBs always had the lead so they were still better. I disagree. I think Drew would have preferred the Defense not to blow the leads in all five games requiring a come back. The Defense has now blown late game leads in at least 7 games this season.

So bashers, it's on you: show me a Dallas (or even NFL) QB that had more than 5 GW drives in a single season.

And if we miss the playoffs... the game winning drives will be quickly forgotten in lieu of the failures.

Ken · 12-25-2005

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Originally Posted by big_neil

Five times this season Drew has delivered a game winning drive. Without Drew at QB Dallas would likely have lost all 5 of those games, finding themselves with a 4-11 record right now.

For all the bashing Drew has taken I ask this: can anyone show me a Dallas QB that had 5 or more Game Winning drives in a single season? How about four game winning touchdown passes with less than 2 minutes to go (@SD, @SF, KC, @CAR), letalone against 3 winning teams and 3 road teams.

Some will raise the argument that other QBs always had the lead so they were still better. I disagree. I think Drew would have preferred the Defense not to blow the leads in all five games requiring a come back. The Defense has now blown late game leads in at least 7 games this season.

So bashers, it's on you: show me a Dallas (or even NFL) QB that had more than 5 GW drives in a single season.

Well, not sure about for the season, but I do know that yesterday was, I believe, his 33rd 4th quarter comeback.

For perspective, i believe Favre is in the low 40s.

CrazyCowboy · 12-25-2005

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Originally Posted by MichaelWinicki

And if we miss the playoffs... the game winning drives will be quickly forgotten in lieu of the failures.

So true.....so very true!

Avenging Hayseed · 12-25-2005

Hey, I have a good one for you Drew supporters to use but im not gonna do the leg work for you...LOL I think Drew has done a fine job behind this shambles of a line, he really has. Heres the rub....the next time guys start bashing on Drew for his immobility just go to ANY NFL site and drop some stats on em. Stats that DONT LIE. Go to a site and look up the number of pass attempts by say someone like ohhhh Mike Vick vrs the number of times Vick has been sacked. Sacks per attempts. Then go look at the same stats for Bledsoe this year. You will be pleasently suprized...LOL You can do the same with alot of the running QB's. Proves its a huge myth. In fact, go look up the number of times the biggest statue of them all has been sacked in comparison to his attempts...Brad Johnson. If you saw his stats in that area you would think Brad is the most mobile QB of all time...LOL Just proves what anybody with a shred of football IQ has always known........Avoiding sacks has ALOT more to do with a QB's brain than it does his legs......

jterrell · 12-25-2005

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Originally Posted by big_neil

Five times this season Drew has delivered a game winning drive. Without Drew at QB Dallas would likely have lost all 5 of those games, finding themselves with a 4-11 record right now.

For all the bashing Drew has taken I ask this: can anyone show me a Dallas QB that had 5 or more Game Winning drives in a single season? How about four game winning touchdown passes with less than 2 minutes to go (@SD, @SF, KC, @CAR), letalone against 3 winning teams and 3 road teams.

Some will raise the argument that other QBs always had the lead so they were still better. I disagree. I think Drew would have preferred the Defense not to blow the leads in all five games requiring a come back. The Defense has now blown late game leads in at least 7 games this season.

So bashers, it's on you: show me a Dallas (or even NFL) QB that had more than 5 GW drives in a single season.

I am sure Staubach had more in a season. They were called the Cardiac Cowboys for a reason. But I know Aikman never had many comeback wins at all because we seldom trailed.

Drew gave us a chance all year. Playoffs or no playoffs 10-6 is a good season for team who won 6 games the previous season. Factor in 10-6 against a tough tough schedule and I have no complaints.

Bledsoe is 2nd among NFL QBs in comeback wins since he entered the league behind only Favre.

**MichaelWinicki** · 12-25-2005

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Originally Posted by Avenging Hayseed

Hey, I have a good one for you Drew supporters to use but im not gonna do the leg work for you...LOL I think Drew has done a fine job behind this shambles of a line, he really has. Heres the rub....the next time guys start bashing on Drew for his immobility just go to ANY NFL site and drop some stats on em. Stats that DONT LIE. Go to a site and look up the number of pass attempts by say someone like ohhhh Mike Vick vrs the number of times Vick has been sacked. Sacks per attempts. Then go look at the same stats for Bledsoe this year. You will be pleasently suprized...LOL You can do the same with alot of the running QB's. Proves its a huge myth. In fact, go look up the number of times the biggest statue of them all has been sacked in comparison to his attempts...Brad Johnson. If you saw his stats in that area you would think Brad is the most mobile QB of all time...LOL Just proves what anybody with a shred of football IQ has always known........Avoiding sacks has ALOT more to do with a [View Full Quote]

A great many of the scrambling QB's do get sacked a lot because they "scramble" out of their protection and a defender becomes freed up.

Your point about taking sacks having a lot more to do with a QB's brain than it does with his legs is well taken... We've given up a lot of sacks huh?

Ashwynn · 12-25-2005

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Originally Posted by Ken

Well, not sure about for the season, but I do know that yesterday was, I believe, his 33rd 4th quarter comeback.

For perspective, i believe Favre is in the low 40s.

Actually Drew tied Bret on the last comeback at 31 for his career. Last week Brett had one I think, so pending what the pack do this week, they should be tied again at 32 or so.

Bob Sacamano · 12-25-2005

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Originally Posted by big_neil

Five times this season Drew has delivered a game winning drive. Without Drew at QB Dallas would likely have lost all 5 of those games, finding themselves with a 4-11 record right now.

For all the bashing Drew has taken I ask this: can anyone show me a Dallas QB that had 5 or more Game Winning drives in a single season? How about four game winning touchdown passes with less than 2 minutes to go (@SD, @SF, KC, @CAR), letalone against 3 winning teams and 3 road teams.

Some will raise the argument that other QBs always had the lead so they were still better. I disagree. I think Drew would have preferred the Defense not to blow the leads in all five games requiring a come back. The Defense has now blown late game leads in at least 7 games this season.

So bashers, it's on you: show me a Dallas (or even NFL) QB that had more than 5 GW drives in a single season.

funny, you call out the Drew bashers, which I am not, but you bash the D

it doesn't go both ways buddy

**MichaelWinicki** · 12-25-2005

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Originally Posted by summerisfunner

funny, you call out the Drew bashers, which I am not, but you bash the D

it doesn't go both ways buddy

LOL!

Ah, leave the poor guy alone... he's human like all the rest of us. We all have agendas and opinions that aren't consistent.

That's what makes us so darned interesting.

Avenging Hayseed · 12-25-2005

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Originally Posted by MichaelWinicki

A great many of the scrambling QB's do get sacked a lot because they "scramble" out of their protection and a defender becomes freed up.

Your point about taking sacks having a lot more to do with a QB's brain than it does with his legs is well taken... We've given up a lot of sacks huh?

I see your point to an extent, BUT, you have to agree Alot of the sacks he took this year NOBODY could have avoided with their legs OR brain.

**MichaelWinicki** · 12-25-2005

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Originally Posted by Avenging Hayseed

I see your point to an extent, BUT, you have to agree Alot of the sacks he took this year NOBODY could have avoided with their legs OR brain.

Oh no question at all... Our pass protection is poor. We're combining a poor-protecting oline with a QB that has a propensity for taking sacks.

It's just a bad combination. Part of the blame is Bledsoe, part the oline and part to the guy that brought the two together.

Nors · 12-25-2005

Last years Dallas team was 6-10

We are 9-6 and going into playoffs next week 10-6.

How are the 9-7 Bills faring this year? Happy arctic day!