Redskin fans, biggest homers of them all...

[AJM1613]

Originally Posted by SweCowboy

No this ones the best by the master himself

Art is terrible, I am sure he is a nice guy but his views are completely off. I wish I had a membership there (I don't have an email adress that I pay for).

If someone can let my borrow one, let me know, thanks.

[Sarge]

Originally Posted by AJM1613

Art is terrible, I am sure he is a nice guy but his views are completely off. I wish I had a membership there (I don't have an email adress that I pay for).

If someone can let my borrow one, let me know, thanks.

Here, use this address:

eagleslose4thNFCchampionship@best.com

[Eagles-UK]

Check your PMs AJM

[Danny White]

Originally Posted by LaTunaNostra

LMAO.

Yes, that board's mass hysteria-homerism is phenomenal. It is a surreal experiment just reading there. You find nothing like that degree of Stepfordian mind control at Pats.com, for instance, even tho with two rings in three years, fans have the right to drop the world "dynasty" now and again.

I've never seen anything, anywhere, EVER like the so aptly named Extremeskins.

Sometimes I wish tho, that their amazing ability to see and hype all a players positives,and turn the blind eye to all his shortcomings, could rub off on me. I mean, I would really LOVE to envision Terry Glenn as a 6'3", 215 full-field threat. Would LOVE to watch him ping pong off yet another defender on yet another mis- matched run block and call it "strategy".

[View Full Quote]Maybe in the next life the good lord will bless us too by running kool-aid thru our veins, 31.

At least you don't have to live with these clowns. Extremeskins isn't an abberation... it's the norm around here. In fact, reasonable guys like Bufford, Henry, and -Om- are the abberations!

I'm going to Skins training camp this afternoon and if I can get any good pics, I'll post them over in Smack or NFL forums.

Anyone planning on posting good pics from the Cowboys camp? Dale I suppose?

[Om]

I have to ask ... do a majority of people here really think the Redskins have a higher percentage of overzealous fans than anyone else?

[AJM1613]

Originally Posted by -Om-

I have to ask ... do a majority of people here really think the Redskins have a higher percentage of overzealous fans than anyone else?

Yes. If you read this board you will notice that there arn't that many Cowboy fans who think they will win the division or have over 10 wins (DBair and Nors are the only ones I can think of).

[DLK150]

Originally Posted by -Om-

I have to ask ... do a majority of people here really think the Redskins have a higher percentage of overzealous fans than anyone else?

I think a lot of teams have a high percentage of overzealous fans, but it's possible the 'Skins have a higher percentage that are more overt in their expressing their zeal for their team. They do have a pretty good history and tradition that hasn't been lived up to for awhile now, and they feel they'll be regaining it.

They might be overhyping some of their players, but who doesn't? Whether it's realistic or not is yet to be seen. Gibbs is no slouch as a coach, so maybe he'll get more out of some of the players he's inherited.

[Om]

AJM,

Hmm ... looking at your team, maybe you're right.

I kid.

My guess if you actually asked Skins fans on Extreme for a realistic projection of this year's team, you'd find that besides the inevitable SUPER BOWL BABY!! expostulations from the youngsters and loudmouths, the majority of fans (those who didn't think you were just trolling) would tell you their expectations are that the team, if healthy, probably has a chance to compete for a playoff spot, and that's about it.

I realize that here on a rival teams' board it's easy and comfortable to just make broad generalizations. How about paying us a visit and actually see for yourself if your hypothesis is true of not?

We'll (most of us, anyway) be as thoughtful and honest in our responses as you are in posing the question.

[Om]

Originally Posted by DLK150

I think a lot of teams have a high percentage of overzealous fans, but it's possible the 'Skins have a higher percentage that are more overt in their expressing their zeal for their team. They do have a pretty good history and tradition that hasn't been lived up to for awhile now, and they feel they'll be regaining it.

They might be overhyping some of their players, but who doesn't? Whether it's realistic or not is yet to be seen. Gibbs is no slouch as a coach, so maybe he'll get more out of some of the players he's inherited.

This is dead on, of course. After 10 years of embarrassing football and on-the-job-training in the front office, the team has made a 180-degree turn in their approach, and turned over 100% of personnel and football operations to as qualified a group of football GUYS as there is. People are understandably a bit giddy ... but you really don't have to look too far beneath that giddiness to see that there is a pretty realistic sense about just how long the rebirth will take.

Remember how most of you felt last year when Tuna signed on? That regardless of what the final record in Year One turned out to be, you KNEW your team was finally back in good hands and a new day had come?

Well, that's us.

[AJM1613]

Originally Posted by -Om-

AJM,

Hmm ... looking at your team, maybe you're right.

I kid.

My guess if you actually asked Skins fans on Extreme for a realistic projection of this year's team, you'd find that besides the inevitable SUPER BOWL BABY!! expostulations from the youngsters and loudmouths, the majority of fans (those who didn't think you were just trolling) would tell you their expectations are that the team, if healthy, probably has a chance to compete for a playoff spot, and that's about it.

I realize that here on a rival teams' board it's easy and comfortable to just make broad generalizations. How about paying us a visit and actually see for yourself if your hypothesis is true of not?

We'll (most of us, anyway) be as thoughtful and honest in our responses as you are in posing the question.

I go over there a lot, but I can't post because I don't have an email adress without @hotmail.com at the end of it.

I read a thread the other week, an arugement between your Art and our very own Westbrook36 (Pats Steaks on the EMB). It was kind of funny, Art really has no respect for our owner for some reason, it seemed almost personel.

[LaTunaNostra]

Om, seriously, no smack, yes.

Every fanbase has a certain characterization, tho of course, it is made up of individuals who may hold widely varying opinions. But the overall tone of a fanbase is clearly ..well, there.

From a year of frequenting Cowboys boards, I can safely say the Dallas tone is reserved regarding talent evaluation, and chances for success. This seems a fanbase that shys away from hype, and always but always holds the standard of excellence of the past as it's water mark. There are exceptions, but I have also noticed the very young posters (I mean actual kids), are the ones who tend toward homerism. The Boys fanbase on the whole is moderate, respectful of opponent talent, and imo, perhaps a little too down on some of its own players, a bit unwilling to factor in normal development process, and not yet convinced of what it has in a HC. :p

I have actually bemoaned the absence of homerism at times. Even the more ridiculous variety of it has a positive outcome, as it tempers the negativity. All the same, it's an extremely rational, low keyed fanbase, imo .

The most delusionary time of the year for every fanbase is offseason, before injuries and other forms of reality set in, but even then, the tone on Boyz boards I found subdued. At first I thought the emotional flatness was due to the lack of offseason moves, but clearly it seems stemming more from the "prove it to me" sentiment of Cowboys fans. The "walk the walk" ethos that permeates the fanbase.

I haven't visited enough Skins boards to make any such claims about the general ambiance everywhere. (could so re Jets *we eat our young, Phins, Pats, Bills and Jints fanbases tho, and possibly Raiders and Falcons). But the environment at Extremeskins is night and day from the atmosphere on most Cowboys boards.

Of course, there are assorted pessimists, fatalists, realists, chicken littlers and other more critically motivated fans at your site. And a nice scattering of folks like yourself who analyze with both head and heart (the best combo, imo) But the overwhelming feeling there is "talk the talk", not waiting to see who can walk it.

Really, OM, if aliens landed today at cowboyszone and extremeskins, they'd think they had landed on TWO different planets, so contrary are the general perspectives.

[TwoDeep3]

Sorry to disagree but I see very little difference between our fans and their fans.

I do think Art is a liar and will say something totally ridiculous today and then deny he ever said it.

But that doesn't change the fact that their fanbase and our fansbase, or any fanbase doesn't see crapola and think it's diamonds.

This is another little "We're better than you because we root for blue and white laundry rather than burgundy and gold laundry."

It's all settled on the field. Nothing any of us say makes a difference.

[Om]

Tuna,

Thanks for the considered reply. I'll accept for purposes of discussion that I may be too close to the fire at Extreme to see it objectively. There's no question there's some serious exuberance on display there these days, but I'd suggest that seen against the backdrop of the past decade, it may be pretty justified.

No question individual boards have their distinct "feels." Perhaps ours does tend more to the glass-half-full approach than this one ... but I'm not convinced that's so much Redskin versus Cowboy as it is the personalties of the people running the sites and shaping the debates (NOT suggesting one is better than the other, I promise). We definitely try to keep things upbeat over there. But that's about fostering community, not bragging on the football team.

Anyway ... that's my story and I'm sticking with it.

[Sarge]

Originally Posted by -Om-

Tuna,

Thanks for the considered reply. I'll accept for purposes of discussion that I may be too close to the fire at Extreme to see it objectively. There's no question there's some serious exuberance on display there these days, but I'd suggest that seen against the backdrop of the past decade, it may be pretty justified.

No question individual boards their distinct "feels." Perhaps ours does tend more to the glass half full approach than this one ... but I'm not convinced that's so much Redskin versus Cowboy as it is the personalties of the people running the sites and shaping the debates. We definitely try to keep things upbeat over there. But that's about fostering community, not bragging on the football team.

Anyway ... that's my story and I'm sticking with it.

Absolutely agree that it has more to do with the personalities of the people running their respective sites than anything else.

$hit flows downhill. If you have $hit at the top, you're going to have it all the way to the bottom.

[Om]

Originally Posted by Sarge

Absolutely agree that it has more to do with the personalities of the people running their respective sites than anything else.

$hit flows downhill. If you have $hit at the top, you're going to have it all the way to the bottom.

I see the hairy knuckle faction is vocal here as well.