Trade/Draft Scenario with Texans

[Maikeru-sama]

Originally Posted by bbgun

I wonder if the Texans would trade us Carr for the 18th pick, then draft Vince Young first overall.

Huge pressure is being put on them by the fans to draft Vince from what I understand.

But it takes two to tango and Big Bill aint interested...

- Mike G.

[Danny White]

Originally Posted by bbgun

I wonder if the Texans would trade us Carr for the 18th pick, then draft Vince Young first overall.

Isn't there a good chance Carr will be released outright? Why would we trade a first for a guy who hasn't shown much and could conceivably be gotten for free?

[Maikeru-sama]

Originally Posted by Hiero

give up a first rounder for him? are you nuts? I think he has a future, but anyone would be crazy to get Carr a first rd pick.

I would give up a first round for Carr....

- Mike G.

[Hiero]

Originally Posted by Rob Mexico

Hey guys, just wanted to know what you guys think about this scenario.

Hometown Hero Vince Young comes out and gets drafted #1 by the Texans, becoming the new poster boy for Houston based sports.

The Texans make a trade David Carr to the Cowboys for their #1 pick this year.

The Texans go and sign Steve McNair to play mentor for a season or two, grooming their QB of the future while the Boys get theirs in Carr.

What do you think?

I think Carr for a first rounder makes me puke. He isnt worth a first rder, why would anyone in their right mind give up a first rounder for him? This is just disgusting. If we are going to spend a 1st rder on a guy, we need to take a rookie that hasnt been setting the record for sacks taken and underperformed. I'd give up maybe a 5th rd pick tbh.

[bbgun]

Carr is not the problem down there; it would be premature to pull the plug. Even Vince Young would get sacked a ton in Houston. Come to think of it, he'd get sacked a lot in Dallas too!

[Hiero]

Originally Posted by Hostile

Out of curiosity, why would Houston pass up on Reggie Bush just to draft a home state kid, and trade a more experienced QB away? If they don't take Bush they will trade down and fix OL.

I dunno at this point, I think Domanick Davis has proven a lot more than Carr. Plus Young is the hometown star. Both of them are equally talented imo. I just think Vince Young being from Houston it will be too hard to pass up. The fans will go crazy if they pass on him. I think Davis is the better player between him and Carr. Young would put butts in the seats and having arunning QB isnt a bad idea with that bad of an Oline. If they got a 2nd or 3rd rd pick for Carr they could use that towards OL as well as in the 2nd, there should be one of the good tackles still available.

[Hiero]

Originally Posted by mickgreen58

I would give up a first round for Carr....

- Mike G.

Why? He isnt better than Bledsoe. He's taken a vicious beating in Houston. He makes a lot of the same mistakes Bledsoe does too. Carr will be 27 next year. Do we really want a 27 year old who has taken a beating his entire career to come sit behind Bledsoe for two years and then take over for us at age 29? And we give up a first rd pick when we have a big need for another LB and RT and other big holes. Carr doesnt solve anything for us. I just cannot fathom why anyone would give up a 1st rder for him.

[Hostile]

Originally Posted by BrAinPaiNt

I acutally don't find the idea of them drafting Vince Young far fetched.

One could argue that the mentality to take a Reggie Bush is the Same for taking a Vince Young....the already have a Starting QB and RB and need help on the Oline.

Vince would provide them with a home state product to sell tickets...a mobile QB to tread water until the O-Line is fixed.

I also read somewhere, and I have no clue if it was legit or complete trash, that Reggie bush said he would play anywhere but with the Houston Texans.

Now the part I found Far Fetched is the idea that they would Draft him, then get Steve McNair and then the Cowboys would give them a first round pick for David Carr.

I find it far fatched for only 1 reason, it isn't their greatest need.

Then again, I don't think RB is either. I like Domanick Davis.

They have to fix OL. If they are going to wheel and deal it needs to be to trade down, stockpile picks and go OL.

[Hiero]

Originally Posted by Hostile

I find it far fatched for only 1 reason, it isn't their greatest need.

Then again, I don't think RB is either. I like Domanick Davis.

They have to fix OL. If they are going to wheel and deal it needs to be to trade down, stockpile picks and go OL.

I think before the championship game, they were planning to trade down and get d'brickashaw or a guy like Jon Scott. I think after the game, Young is too much of a legend there to pass on. PLus I think winning the national championship will make Young come out, whereas he might have probably stayed if they lost.

[WoodysGirl]

sorry to break your hearts...


Texans | Carr to stick around
Thu, 5 Jan 2006 12:44:47 -0800

ESPN reports the Houston Texans plan to pick up the $8 million bonus on QB David Carr's contract, keeping him under contract with the team through the 2008 season.

[joseephuss]

Originally Posted by Hostile

I find it far fatched for only 1 reason, it isn't their greatest need.

Then again, I don't think RB is either. I like Domanick Davis.

They have to fix OL. If they are going to wheel and deal it needs to be to trade down, stockpile picks and go OL.

I like Davis as well. Was really hoping Dallas could grab him in the 4th that year, but Houston grabbed him first. He is sort of like Julius Jones, effective when he plays, but has injury problems. Houston could trade him to a team and gain an extra pick. They could then draft Bush with their #1. They wold still have Johnathon Wells and Verand Morency on the team and both are servicable to go with what could be a very dynamic Bush.

In some ways, Houston is in a tough position on what to do. They also have a few options to play with.

[Derinyar]

Originally Posted by Hostile

I find it far fatched for only 1 reason, it isn't their greatest need.

Then again, I don't think RB is either. I like Domanick Davis.

They have to fix OL. If they are going to wheel and deal it needs to be to trade down, stockpile picks and go OL.

The problem is that doesn't put butts in seats. Drafting Bush or Young likely does that. I guess it depends on whether or not they are trying to keep the franchise profitable or make it winning.

[Hiero]

Originally Posted by WoodysGirl

sorry to break your hearts...


Texans | Carr to stick around
Thu, 5 Jan 2006 12:44:47 -0800

ESPN reports the Houston Texans plan to pick up the $8 million bonus on QB David Carr's contract, keeping him under contract with the team through the 2008 season.

very interesting. I dont think its a done deal yet so i guess time will tell.

[joseephuss]

Originally Posted by Derinyar

The problem is that doesn't put butts in seats. Drafting Bush or Young likely does that. I guess it depends on whether or not they are trying to keep the franchise profitable or make it winning.

Winning puts butts in the seats.

[Derinyar]

Originally Posted by joseephuss

Winning puts butts in the seats.

Winning takes more time than drafting Vince Young or Reggie Bush.