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cowboys#1 · 03-27-2006

sanders= quitter
emmitt= heart

Yakuza Rich · 03-27-2006

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that Sanders was the best pure runner,, maybe to ever dress,,

Define "pure runner."

Sanders was afraid to get hit and was that way back in high school. Because of that, he make constant ill advised cutbacks to avoid the hits. Sometimes it worked wonders for him. But too often he gave up the sure 4-5 yard gain and got a 3-4 yard loss instead.

To me, a "pure runner" has to be able to see the hole, use the lane that has developed for him, and take the hit.

Rich..........

Chief · 03-27-2006

Just tell your foe that Emmitt was a diamond among trash. That'll "school" him.

Cowboy4ever · 03-27-2006

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Originally Posted by Yakuza Rich

Define "pure runner."

Sanders was afraid to get hit and was that way back in high school. Because of that, he make constant ill advised cutbacks to avoid the hits. Sometimes it worked wonders for him. But too often he gave up the sure 4-5 yard gain and got a 3-4 yard loss instead.

To me, a "pure runner" has to be able to see the hole, use the lane that has developed for him, and take the hit.

Rich..........

Well whatever his reasons were,, the man could cut on a dime and not lose speed,, that is a freak of nature. I never seen anyone that was able to come close to Sanders with his body control being able to shift his body on the move. That is all i meant.

doomsday81 · 03-27-2006

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Originally Posted by EMMITTnROY

this guy that is full of crap and making stuff up had a quote from Jimmy Johnson saying that he called Sanders the best of all-time.. I know for a fact thats bull because I have heard Jimmy say PLENTY of times that Emmitt was the best ever.. does anyone have a quote by Jimmy that I can use to back it up?

I used to argue Emmitt all the time myself but I found it to be a moot point a few months ago when on "Quite Frankley" Emmitt was asked who the best running back of all-time was he said, "Barry Sanders by far. He's the best I've ever seen. As far as a runner goes, I don't think I'm even in his class. That boy could do things none of us could do."

He might of just been saying it but he really had no reason to and Emmitt isn't known for being a guy that says something just to say it. Anyway, I thought that was interesting.

PoetTree · 03-27-2006

The quote, from Jimmy Johnson:

"Barry Sanders is a very exciting runner, with all the things he can do. He's very fun to watch. So, if I'm a fan and I want to watch someone run the ball, I'd want to watch Barry Sanders. But if I'm a coach and I want to win championships, then I'd want Emmitt Smith."

And yet, another:

"What makes Emmitt special... is that he’s got just such tremendous pride. He wants to be the very, very best... and that’s what drives him during a game, that determination. He’s a great player... and the greatest running back I’ve ever seen in my life."

Case. Closed.

Peace and Love

- PoetTree -

EMMITTnROY · 03-27-2006

Poet Tree, thank you much man..

and I agree with everything you guys are saying.. I use all those points when I argue this.. the thing is, FANS always choose Barry cause he was so flashy and fun.. COACHES always choose Emmitt for all the reasons that we know.. another thing is, the Cowboys are by far the most hated team in football, so there is an automatic biased against Emmitt..

as for Emmitt calling Barry the best, well, Emmitt is a classy guy and he and Sanders are friends.. so him saying that doesnt surprise me..

and for the guy calling me out about "schooling" people cause I didnt find a JJ quote-- whats up with that? are we not on the same side here? the reason I asked in the first place was to get a quote so that I could school the guy.. its called research.. which I just used, thanks to Poet Tree.. so my research worked.. usually, I use facts and stats and quotes and newspaper article links that I have on hand.. I just didnt have any from JJ.. geesh..

iceberg · 03-27-2006

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Originally Posted by EMMITTnROY

Poet Tree, thank you much man..

and I agree with everything you guys are saying.. I use all those points when I argue this.. the thing is, FANS always choose Barry cause he was so flashy and fun.. COACHES always choose Emmitt for all the reasons that we know.. another thing is, the Cowboys are by far the most hated team in football, so there is an automatic biased against Emmitt..

as for Emmitt calling Barry the best, well, Emmitt is a classy guy and he and Sanders are friends.. so him saying that doesnt surprise me..

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it was more to say it was a stupid argument than to "call someone out". but since you said you "schooled" many people you'd think you'd have the quotes handy.

in any event, still a stupid argument no matter who's side your on mostly cause there isn't an "end" to it. you feel what you wanna feel and be glad emmitt was a cowboy. the BEST EVER! just comes across as a waste of time regardless of the "schooling" you deliver or get delivered to you.

EMMITTnROY · 03-27-2006

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Originally Posted by iceberg

it was more to say it was a stupid argument than to "call someone out". but since you said you "schooled" many people you'd think you'd have the quotes handy.

in any event, still a stupid argument no matter who's side your on mostly cause there isn't an "end" to it. you feel what you wanna feel and be glad emmitt was a cowboy. the BEST EVER! just comes across as a waste of time regardless of the "schooling" you deliver or get delivered to you.

stupid argument? maybe.. but it has been debated since the early 90s and it is still debated.. it is mentioned all the time in football message boards.. maybe I should ignore it, but every time I see it I cant help but to put in my two cents.. then some Barry backer says something ridiculous and all these dumb fans start backing him up and I get all riled up..

iceberg · 03-27-2006

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Originally Posted by EMMITTnROY

stupid argument? maybe.. but it has been debated since the early 90s and it is still debated.. it is mentioned all the time in football message boards.. maybe I should ignore it, but every time I see it I cant help but to put in my two cents.. then some Barry backer says something ridiculous and all these dumb fans start backing him up and I get all riled up..

and the barry backers get upset when the emmitt backers say something stupid, and they get all riled up and need to return the schooling. like i said - feel how you wanna feel and let it go. both are high quality backs we were fortunate enough to see in our lifetime.

again, which is better - a ferrari or a lamborghini?

both have their own strengths and weaknesses but both are pretty much the best "cars" out there. unless you need a hummer but we're not talking fullbacks. : )

emmitt had things he was great at, so did barry. who is "better" is nothing more than your point of view.

Manster68 · 03-27-2006

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Originally Posted by Cowboy4ever

I have actually had this debate back in the day.. when they were both playing.. and I still contend,, that Sanders was the best pure runner,, maybe to ever dress,, but Smith was the best all around back out of the two.. and i would take that 10 out 10 times,, every day.

Very nicely said.

Might I add that when the big game came around, Emmitt didn't disappear.

Going as early as 1990, Emmitt's rookie season. The way he broke those Redskin tackles on Thanksgiving.

Emmitt's bob-n-weave TDs against the Cards were a sight to behold.

Or it is 1991, and Emmitt broke a Kazillion tackles against the Redskins on the second Monday Night of the season. It wasn't Emmitt's fault the Cowboys gave up 33 points in that loss.

Or it is 1992, when Emmitt is dancing around a gaggle of Falcons, and scoring a clutch touchdown in Denver a couple of weeks earlier...

...or ripping through the Gang Green defense, recording the first 100 yard game in 51 games....and then repeat that in the playoffs.

Or it is the two clutch catches in San Francisco. The first one was a flare pass in which Emmitt did a spin move on Romanowski getting a clutch first down which led to a 9:00 TD drive. That TD was scored on another flare pass in which Emmitt scored from 15 yards out.

Or it is running through the Buffalo Bills, or putting his helmet in Cornelius Bennett's ribs protecting Aikman.

I have said it all along....

....[FONT="Arial Black"]Barry runs with his legs - whereas Emmitt runs with his heart.[/FONT]

cowboyeric8 · 03-27-2006

Wasn't it Emmitt that said, "I didn't say I was the best ever, I said I had the most yards, most touchdowns, most records, most rings, and the most attractive wife, but I didn't say I was the best ever."

I may be completely wrong but I thought I remember him saying that.

ravidubey · 03-27-2006

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Originally Posted by lurkercowboy

List the starting offensive line for the 1-15 Dallas Cowboys of 1989.

Mark Tuinei, Nate Newton, Mark Stepnoski, Kevin Gogan and Crawford Ker.

These guys couldn't even spell "pro bowl" in 1989. After Emmitt arrived, 80% of them suddenly became great players.

ConcordCowboy · 03-27-2006

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Originally Posted by iceberg

isn't this like debating which is better - a lamborghini or a ferrari?

both are bad arse and it's up to personal taste after that. sheesh - bored people.

Really...This is a exercise in futility.

You will never convince someone that one or the other is better if they think differently.

They are both Great...I'm glad we were blessed with Emmitt...but there is nothing wrong with Sanders except to me he Quit on his team...I know that's open to debate for some people but that's how I feel.

superpunk · 03-27-2006

Emmitt versus Barry....

I declare this the official beginning of the offseason doldrums.