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04-23-2004
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Ex-Rams coach Lovie Smith doesn't want Warner
For those hoping the Cowboys sign Kurt Warner, this might give you an idea how much he's worth when an ex-Rams coach doesn't even want to bring him in.
http://www.dailyherald.com/sports/be...intID=38100153
Smith: Bears not interested in QB Warner
By Bob LeGere Daily Herald Sports Writer
Posted Friday, April 23, 2004
Head coach Lovie Smith refuted widespread rumors that the Bears would be a serious suitor for quarterback Kurt Warner if the Rams release him on June 1.
"We have our quarterback," Smith said. "Rex Grossman is our quarterback."
Although he has been replaced by Marc Bulger as the starter in St. Louis, Warner is a two-time NFL MVP (1999 and 2001) and three-time Pro Bowl pick who will be looking to be guaranteed a starting job or at least the opportunity to compete for one if he leaves.
And, there is still a possibility the Rams will keep him at a reduced salary.
"I know he hasn't been waived from St. Louis or anything like that," Smith said. "I assume if Kurt does leave, he wants to be the starting quarterback somewhere, which he should.
"He's a friend of mind, so we have a personal relationship. But we have our quarterback here. We're very happy with him. I hope for Kurt if he does leave, he can go somewhere where he can be the (starting) quarterback."
Thumb injuries have limited Warner's effectiveness the last two seasons, and he threw just 65 passes in 2003. Although he'll turn 33 on June 22, he could be a major upgrade for a team such as the Oakland Raiders, who are hoping 38-year-old Rich Gannon can recover from last season's shoulder injury.
"I think he can still play," Smith said of Warner. "He played at a high level not long ago. I don't think he'd lose it. I don't think he's lost it that quick."
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04-23-2004
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Armchair QB
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Originally Posted by TruBlueCowboy
For those hoping the Cowboys sign Kurt Warner, this might give you an idea how much he's worth when an ex-Rams coach doesn't even want to bring him in.
http://www.dailyherald.com/sports/be...intID=38100153
Smith: Bears not interested in QB Warner
By Bob LeGere Daily Herald Sports Writer
Posted Friday, April 23, 2004
Head coach Lovie Smith refuted widespread rumors that the Bears would be a serious suitor for quarterback Kurt Warner if the Rams release him on June 1.
"We have our quarterback," Smith said. "Rex Grossman is our quarterback."
[View Full Quote]Although he has been replaced by Marc Bulger as the starter in St. Louis, Warner is a two-time NFL MVP (1999 and 2001) and three-time Pro Bowl pick who will be looking to be guaranteed a starting job or at least the opportunity to compete for one if he leaves.
And, there is still a possibility the Rams will keep him at a reduced salary.
"I know he hasn't been waived from St. Louis or anything like that," Smith said. "I assume if Kurt does leave, he wants to be the starting quarterback somewhere, which he should.
"He's a friend of mind, so we have a personal relationship. But we have our quarterback here. We're very happy with him. I hope for Kurt if he does leave, he can go somewhere where he can be the (starting) quarterback."
Thumb injuries have limited Warner's effectiveness the last two seasons, and he threw just 65 passes in 2003. Although he'll turn 33 on June 22, he could be a major upgrade for a team such as the Oakland Raiders, who are hoping 38-year-old Rich Gannon can recover from last season's shoulder injury.
"I think he can still play," Smith said of Warner. "He played at a high level not long ago. I don't think he'd lose it. I don't think he's lost it that quick."
Feeling left out: The Bears probably wouldn't have had a chance to draft Southern Cal wide receiver Mike Williams at No. 14 in the first round because he'd have already been snapped up, and they weren't very interested in Maurice Clarett, but coach Lovie Smith still feels for both players.
Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg denied Clarett's Supreme Court appeal Thursday. She said she saw no reason to overturn a lower court's stay preventing the 20-year-old former Ohio State tailback from entering the draft. The NFL rule says a player must be three years removed from his high school graduation to be eligible. Williams was granted permission to apply for the draft after Clarett won his original court case.
"It's just a big thing to those guys; two players with really no place to go," Smith said. "I hope they can get into the draft."
Clarett has already filed a new emergency appeal with another justice. For now, both players are in limbo.
"I've got a chance to meet Mike," Smith said. "I think he's a great guy. Do I feel bad for him? Yes. I think everybody deserves a chance. We're all working. I think everybody deserves a chance to do that."
Clarett played just one season at Ohio State, helping the Buckeyes to the national championship, and probably would have been a second- or third-round draft pick.
"I did see the physical ability he has on tape," Smith said, "(and) when you get a chance to know him, you can really see what people like about him."
Award winners: Center Olin Kreutz and cornerback Charles Tillman were named the veteran and rookie winners of the Brian Piccolo Award on Thursday at Halas Hall.
The award has been given to a Bears rookie since 1970 and was expanded in 1992 to include a veteran winner. Teammates vote based on which players best exemplify the courage, loyalty, teamwork, dedication and sense of humor of former running back Brian Piccolo, who died of embryonal cell carcinoma on June 16, 1970, at the age of 26.
"This is an honor for me," said Kreutz, who claimed he was wearing a tie for the first time in four years for the ceremony. "Just to be part of the Chicago Bears tradition has always been an honor for me, and to win this award, it's kind of overwhelming. Courage, loyalty, teamwork - that's what the offensive line is all about."
Tillman watched the movie Brian's Song on Wednesday night to familiarize himself with Piccolo's career and his fight with cancer.
"The coolest thing about this award is that it's not voted on by the media or the fans, it's voted on by your teammates," Tillman said. "That means a lot to me because it means they think something special of me. I want to thank all my teammates for thinking I deserve this award."
Piccolo played for the Bears from 1965-69 after joining the team as an undrafted free agent from Wake Forest.
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I kind of feel bad for warner...he was a SB MVP, and a lot of other things...so promising and now he just doesn't have it...so sad...
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04-23-2004
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Chevy Guy
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I read on espn.com that Martz said no to rule out Warner coming back next season. He said the Warner cut was a result of Warner's agent over-reacting, or something of that nature.
"Some people create with words, or with music, or with a brush and paints. I like to make something beautiful when I run. I like to make people stop and say, "I've never seen anyone run like that before." It's more then just a race, it's a style. It's doing something better then anyone else. It's being creative." -Steve Prefontaine
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04-23-2004
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Philosopher
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Oakland and AZ should be his 1st two options.
That's his best chance to start AND have some WR's to throw too.
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04-23-2004
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"You Want Some?"
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I don't think he's proven that he's over his thumb problem...
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04-23-2004
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The only reason why they don't want him is because they have a QB that they think is good. Bears fans think that Grossman is an MVP canidate.
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04-23-2004
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Right Kind of Guy
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I would very much like him to be the Vet option we add. He was out of football for a while and came back with an amazing season to start a 3 year run as one of the best.
He's a very good guy and would not make waves. I think he would be the perfect mentor for Henson and Hutch if we keep them both.
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04-23-2004
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I think he would be a perfect fit for Norv Turner. The Raiders should draft Winslow, then the best WR that falls to round 2, and then sign Warner and let he and Tui have at it.
"Leadership is getting someone to do what they don't want to do, to achieve what they want to achieve."
- Tom Landry
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04-23-2004
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Originally Posted by Hostile
I would very much like him to be the Vet option we add. He was out of football for a while and came back with an amazing season to start a 3 year run as one of the best.
He's a very good guy and would not make waves. I think he would be the perfect mentor for Henson and Hutch if we keep them both.
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With that being said, how much veteran leadership would he be able to provide?
He had a long road just getting to the NFL and he wasn't a starter much longer than Quincy Carter. Plus, he really wouldn't be able to help anyone get better acclimated to Parcells or his system.
I think Kurt Warner will be very good training camp competition as a potential STARTER but I don't see how he helps much otherwise. Plus, he will probably want starter's coin.
I wish him the best but I doubt he winds up in Dallas to only start for 1 season.
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04-23-2004
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I think the biggest problem for any team that picks him up will be dealing with his wife. 
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04-23-2004
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Grossman is good.
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Originally Posted by AJM1613
The only reason why they don't want him is because they have a QB that they think is good. Bears fans think that Grossman is an MVP canidate.
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Grossman played well last year when he was given the reins. He went through his progression quickly, got rid of the football and was accurate. You know, he was the anti-McNabb.
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