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CowboyWay · 04-28-2006

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Originally Posted by gbrittain

The Texans O Line was known for horrible pass protection not run blocking, if you dont believe me take a look at Domanick Davis numbers last year.

Plus like someone already mentioned, if GMs thought like you did Dallas would have selected all everything Tony Mandarich and not Troy Aikman.

You could be right there because their run blocking doesn't seem to be horrendous, but I still believe in Defense first. Mario will make everyone else better on that defense. The other Dlineman, and definetely the secondary. I'm not so sure I can say the same thing about bush. He just scares the hell out of me because of the team he was on and the Pac 10 being WEAK.

I certainly could be wrong, he just scares me with the #1 pick

Oh, no I was on the troy bandwagaon, not Mandarich's

btcutter · 04-28-2006

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Originally Posted by HeavyHitta31

It was the right pick. They wised up and drafted for need, not want.

Bush is good, but they already have a good RB, and while David Carr sucks, drafting Vince Young wont help them considering that offensive line they have and Young's inability to run away from NFL defenders like he could in college.

Agreed. A top DE is extremely difficulty to obtain (ask us, we would know). A player like Peppers, White, Bruce have impact that changes a game as much as a RB. RB's are much easier to replace and this yr Texans will probably get a good one at top of 2nd round.

gbrittain · 04-28-2006

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Originally Posted by kobe2jail

You could be right there because their run blocking doesn't seem to be horrendous, but I still believe in Defense first. Mario will make everyone else better on that defense. The other Dlineman, and definetely the secondary. I'm not so sure I can say the same thing about bush. He just scares the hell out of me because of the team he was on and the Pac 10 being WEAK.

I certainly could be wrong, he just scares me with the #1 pick

Oh, no I was on the troy bandwagaon, not Mandarich's

BTW I am not exactly sold un Reggie myself. I just did not agree with your reasoning, I know it seams petty, but heck it is almost midnight and I have nothing better to do!

I dont think Houston made a bad decision, I just think a miss on Reggie or Vince will be much more forgiveable than a miss on Mario.

CowboyWay · 04-28-2006

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Originally Posted by theogt

It was actually my first car. I quickly discovered that driving without an A/C in Texas isn't very cool no matter what kind of car you're in. I kept it for a while but I just didn't have the storage or time to keep it up. I'm sure I'll get another one in the future.

Oh yeah, you can't use it as a daily driver. It would beat you down, especially with no AC. No way, I wouldn't even try it. The prices are skyrocketing so I wouldn't wait too long if you wanted another one. I bought this one about 6 months ago, numbers matching z-28. I always wanted one, so I just said F-it and pulled the trigger on it.

If I had it all over to do again though, I wouldn't go for that numbers matching crap. It really limits what you can "tweak" or change with the car, thereby losing some of its value.

I shoulda just bought a 69, good paint, good body, and a MONSTER motor. Something I could really just hammer and not have to worry about the investment side.

theogt · 04-28-2006

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Originally Posted by kobe2jail

Oh yeah, you can't use it as a daily driver. It would beat you down, especially with no AC. No way, I wouldn't even try it. The prices are skyrocketing so I wouldn't wait too long if you wanted another one. I bought this one about 6 months ago, numbers matching z-28. I always wanted one, so I just said F-it and pulled the trigger on it.

If I had it all over to do again though, I wouldn't go for that numbers matching crap. It really limits what you can "tweak" or change with the car, thereby losing some of its value.

I shoulda just bought a 69, good paint, good body, and a MONSTER motor. Something I could really just hammer and not have to worry about the investment side.

Well I was 16 at the time. My dad tried to warn me. Prices are going up? I wonder why. My next will be a "numbers match" type. The one I had wasn't stock by any means. It was a mean SOB.

theogt · 04-28-2006

By the way kobe2jail, in Gosselin's latest mock he states that, "Bush was the top player on the draft board of 21 of 26 NFL teams polled by The Dallas Morning News this month."

Looks like a consensus to me.

CowboyWay · 04-28-2006

All those musclecars prices are shooting through the roof. Look at anything with a "Hemi" in it from back then and you will pay a bare minimum of 100 grand. The z-28 numbers matching go from anywhere from 40 to 100 grand depending on condition and every month I swear the prices keep going up.

Anyway, I just saw a scroll on Espn that said the people who rented bushs family that house are trying to get them to pay 3.2 million in damages and loaded bushs family alot of money, Also said that they told bush that if he didn't pay "Personal information about the bush family would get out. I seriously doubt that that factored into Houstons decision, but it looks like it is going to get ugly for bush

I think you can find the story on yahoo sports the scroll just said.

CowboyWay · 04-28-2006

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Originally Posted by theogt

By the way kobe2jail, in Gosselin's latest mock he states that, "Bush was the top player on the draft board of 21 of 26 NFL teams polled by The Dallas Morning News this month."

Looks like a consensus to me.

Heh heh heh. Maybe so, but not my consensus. Last "Can't miss" pick from USC was Mike Williams last year..........we all know how that turned out. I don't trust USC players, because I don't trust the Pac 10. A bunch of fancy lads out there that can't play ball.

jterrell · 04-29-2006

I would not draft Bush in the top 10.

It was funny reading Gosselin's stuff about Bush and compare him to OJ. Unless my memory is really bad OJ played every down on offense.

Bush is a part time player guys.

To me he's like Clinton Portis/Brian Westbrook in the NFL. A really fast dangerous guy that will have some real limits between the tackles and struggle with heavy carries and durability concerns.

That aside Houston should have drafted Vince Young. He's a hometown kid and was the best player in college football last year.

Houston should have:
1. traded down w/ Jets
2. selected Young
3. selected Williams

Williams was a need for them and will make a fine player for them.

jterrell · 04-29-2006

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Originally Posted by kobe2jail

Heh heh heh. Maybe so, but not my consensus. Last "Can't miss" pick from USC was Mike Williams last year..........we all know how that turned out. I don't trust USC players, because I don't trust the Pac 10. A bunch of fancy lads out there that can't play ball.

I must admit I feel the same way.

I loved Carson Palmer and gulp, Jacob Rogers but most Trojans I am leery of if only because of the Pac 10. I was not as high as most on Mike Williams last year. He caught passes when single covered by smaller defenders and
never ran great routes.

Lienart: Looks a little stiff and robotic. Reminds me a ton of Drew Bledsoe. Big, strong, great when players around him make catches and block for him.

Bush: Smallish, part time guy with great explosiveness. Possible character issues after the apparent housing issue and subsequent tall tales.

Justice: Nice athlete who needs experience, toughness and technique work. Probably a plus starter in 3 years but may have character concerns that hinder his development.

Bob Sacamano · 04-29-2006

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Originally Posted by jimmy40

No Bush, no Young? The Cowboys just gained thousands of new fans from Houston.

so who are the Pats going to take?

Bob Sacamano · 04-29-2006

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Originally Posted by gbrittain

No one knows for sure what the future will bring. However, in Houston the careers of Vince Young, Reggie Bush and Mario Williams will forever be linked.

If all three turn out to be HOF material, then it will probably not matter much. If all did turn out to be HOF material though, I can imagine there would be some regret passing on Vince Young hometown hero QB.

that's a risk in every draft for those with the #1 overall selection

Bob Sacamano · 04-29-2006

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Originally Posted by gbrittain

Now unless it is 3rd and 20 or third and 30, Vince Young will be able to pick the D apart with his arm, move around behind the line of scrimmage buying time and hit someone wide open downfield or take off and get 5-10 yards easily for the first down.

It is NOT about running for 100 yards in a game, it is about buying time with your mobility or taking off on third down to get the nail in the coffin first down.

Carr is pretty mobile, yet is still getting smacked around

can't run around the issue here, until HOuston fixes their Oline, they aint doing squat