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Old 06-06-2004   #91
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So, what did you guys think??

I thought it was one of the better season finales they have had.
I was surprised that Tony S whacked Tony B but it was good business I guess. When the feds came after Johnny Sack at first I thought it was Phil coming after Tony. I think a coup is being setup on Tony for next season.

Which guy was it that setup Johhny?
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I think it shows that Chris' Chick was setting Tony up. But, it was preatty good when he realized he just ran 3 miles for no good reason.

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Old 06-07-2004   #93
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All along I was thinking the one guy was setting up Tony...but maybe he was really setting up Johnny.

Very interesting show last night....notice Tony coming out of the woods when sneaking back home...just like the bear coming out of the woods earlier in the season.

Also this sets up some interesting scenarios next season...will Tony be the boss over both areas now with Johnny going and all of his men going to trial.

Poor Jr is really losing it now....at one time he was doing it as an act...but now it is the real deal.

Funny when Tony found the old Painting that Paulie had kept. But after paulie telling him it was Tony as a General and after tony threw his tantrum and finally started thinking about it...he finally realized that he IS the leader and a leader needs to make the hard decisions...even if they are toward his own blood.

Also did anyone else get the feeling that he knows something about Vito...I wonder if meadow or her fiance told tony what happened because he acted kind of funny towards vito when he stopped by the birthday party.

It was also funny with Tony and Carm talking about AJ being an even coordinator.

When Tony met with Johnny....he broke out the evil look...the look that says if you do not do what I say there will be hell to pay...and then Johnny too came to his senses...however with the Feds coming I wonder if Johnny will think Tony had something to do with it.

I heard on the radio that we will have to wait for 18 months before the next (and final) season air.....man that sucks.


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The guy who set up Johnny Sack was mentioned earlier in this thread. He was in the last episode, Jimmy, right next to Johnny Sack when he and Tony had a sit down. Philly was at the table, Tony was saying "my condolences" and that stuff, Philly exploded, and JIMMY told him to go get a drink

He was also the guy who phoned Tony to tell him that Carmine quit and Johnny was now the boss of New York

That's the only Jimmy in New York I know of


great episode. I don't think anybody expected it. Tony didn't even hesitate to kill his own cousin -- definitely indicating how he hasn't failed as a leader. He did something he didn't want to, but it was for the better of his family.

His 'escape' was classic

Great episode...
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The guy who set up Johnny Sack was mentioned earlier in this thread. He was in the last episode, Jimmy, right next to Johnny Sack when he and Tony had a sit down. Philly was at the table, Tony was saying "my condolences" and that stuff, Philly exploded, and JIMMY told him to go get a drink

He was also the guy who phoned Tony to tell him that Carmine quit and Johnny was now the boss of New York

That's the only Jimmy in New York I know of


great episode. I don't think anybody expected it. Tony didn't even hesitate to kill his own cousin -- definitely indicating how he hasn't failed as a leader. He did something he didn't want to, but it was for the better of his family.

His 'escape' was classic

Great episode...
Thanks for clearing that up...but what is going on with the guy talking to the feds that at one time was going to shoot Tony before thinking twice and peeing in the pool.

That part was confusing me because I thought he was ratting on tony and then we see Johnny getting arrested.

I will have to watch the show again to catch a little more.

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Thanks for clearing that up...but what is going on with the guy talking to the feds that at one time was going to shoot Tony before thinking twice and peeing in the pool.

That part was confusing me because I thought he was ratting on tony and then we see Johnny getting arrested.

I will have to watch the show again to catch a little more.

BTW....love that sig line pic.
I was wrong about that. Those are two different guys. Patsy was the one who peed in the pool. Ray (the birthday guy) is the one who is ratting them out.

Then, there's a third guy -- Jimmy Patrile -- who ratted out Johnny.

But Patsy and Ray were the guys I was confusing. They look similar.

I also think it was funny that I was making such a big deal about the guy in the car getting beat up who had glasses on. In the first 5 minutes, they show both Patsy and Ray wearing glasses. And then, for the first time ever, they make a huge deal about Benny (Chris' lackey) wearing glasses. Talk about making me confused.

I was also wondering if they were going to bring Doogie Howser out to patch up his old buddy Vinny Delpino. Same actor, of course, as the guy who plays Benny.

Also, some more classic Sopranos scenes in this episode.

** Tony's heart to heart with Sil.
** Tony's very awkward encounter with Paulie at Paulie's house.
** "Tony the Bear" at the very end of the episode, walking through his backyard.
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I was wrong about that. Those are two different guys. Patsy was the one who peed in the pool. Ray (the birthday guy) is the one who is ratting them out.

Then, there's a third guy -- Jimmy Patrile -- who ratted out Johnny.

But Patsy and Ray were the guys I was confusing. They look similar.

I also think it was funny that I was making such a big deal about the guy in the car getting beat up who had glasses on. In the first 5 minutes, they show both Patsy and Ray wearing glasses. And then, for the first time ever, they make a huge deal about Benny (Chris' lackey) wearing glasses. Talk about making me confused.

I was also wondering if they were going to bring Doogie Howser out to patch up his old buddy Vinny Delpino. Same actor, of course, as the guy who plays Benny.

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Thank you for saying who the kid that got beat up was....I kept trying to figure out where I seen the guy before.


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Also did anyone else get the feeling that he knows something about Vito...I wonder if meadow or her fiance told tony what happened because he acted kind of funny towards vito when he stopped by the birthday party.
You may be right about this, but... right before Tony arrives at the party, Vito had just said: "I'm willing to die for a good cause. This is bull****."

I think Tony gave him the stink-eye because either he overheard this, or the producers want you to think that he maybe overheard it.

One other thing I thought was hilarious about this episode I forgot to mention: the Gardener! That poor slob.

Remember, he's working at all of their houses for FREE! He's always in the background looking pissed as hell. And then he has to get arrested! What a sad sack.

Last thing: anyone catch what Tony's lawyer was saying to him after the Johnny Sack bust? He says something about "be of good cheer" but then he says some thing like "or you could rub a hunchback's hump" or something crazy like that? Did anyone else hear that? And if so, what in the world does that mean??
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You may be right about this, but... right before Tony arrives at the party, Vito had just said: "I'm willing to die for a good cause. This is bull****."

I think Tony gave him the stink-eye because either he overheard this, or the producers want you to think that he maybe overheard it.

One other thing I thought was hilarious about this episode I forgot to mention: the Gardener! That poor slob.

Remember, he's working at all of their houses for FREE! He's always in the background looking pissed as hell. And then he has to get arrested! What a sad sack.

Last thing: anyone catch what Tony's lawyer was saying to him after the Johnny Sack bust? He says something about "be of good cheer" but then he says some thing like "or you could rub a hunchback's hump" or something crazy like that? Did anyone else hear that? And if so, what in the world does that mean??

I think that is what the lawyer was saying....I can only guess that it means don't get bummed because things could get worse and that in some ways this is actually GOOD for Tony as Johnny and gang will be tied up in court and watched even closer then they were before.

About the actual saying...I have never heard it before but he did say something along if you see a hunchback rub the hunch.


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About the actual saying...I have never heard it before but he did say something along if you see a hunchback rub the hunch.
OK, I looked this up.
It's supposedly good luck to rub a hunchback's hump. So I guess he's saying that either the situation is good luck for Tony in that he's lucky to be free, or that he's going to need some good luck soon.

Too bad about the long lay-off until next year. I guess I'll just have to watch "Joey" to get any sort of Sopranos fix. Adriana Lives!
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Artie Bucco. What was I thinking? WAY off.
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I just caught the final episode and I was wondering... now that Johnny Sac is going away for a long time along with those closely affiliated with him, does that mean Tony didn't have to kill his cousin? He could just as easily whack the guy who had the problem with him and not worry about the consequences because of the disarray the bosses must be in now.
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I just caught the final episode and I was wondering... now that Johnny Sac is going away for a long time along with those closely affiliated with him, does that mean Tony didn't have to kill his cousin? He could just as easily whack the guy who had the problem with him and not worry about the consequences because of the disarray the bosses must be in now.

Maybe but Tony just did not know...and in the end I think he also realized he had to do it to gain the respect of his own men.

Also just because Johnny and Crew are going on trial...does not mean they do not have time to try and set up some things in the mean time.


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OK, I looked this up.
It's supposedly good luck to rub a hunchback's hump.
Ues, it's a century old superstition, and is considered partially responsible for the genesis of sports mascots.

100 years before Rowdy, baseball teams employed bat boys with a pronounced physical disability. It was flt rubbing the misformed limb before coming to bat would give you good luck. The person was typically a hunchback or a dwarf.

I've read Connie Mack, owner of the old Philadelphia Athletics, was particularly superstitious in this regard. He employed a dwarf for many years who rated higher with him then his players. Gave him a lot of credit for an early 20th cent championship. When it became "politically incorrect" to haul around disabled folks and expose them to the ridicule of rival fans, and players, the switch began to cartoon/animal character mascots, especially those who reflected a team's name.

There's a sports writer from Brooklyn who has worked chiefly out of Canada, named Allen Abel who has done a lot of beautiful baseball history, and has mentioned the practice.
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