Go Back   Dallas Cowboys Forum - CowboysZone.com > Main Forums > Draft Zone

Cowboys Chat: 0 user(s) online


Home  |  Fan Zone  |  News Zone  |  Draft Zone  |  Off-topic Zone  |  Forum Rules  |  Chat  |  ** Change Graphics **

Reply
 
Display Modes Thread Tools
Old 11-02-2006   #1
tvooz
Senior Member
 
Joined:
Jan 2005
Location:
Tucson
Posts:
156
Default Nose tackle prospects

i copied a list of prospects from GBN. of those listed below, who would make a good nose tackle? Justin Harrell, 6-3, 305, Tennessee (XAr) *Frank Okam, 6-4, 320, Texas *Alan Branch, 6-5, 325, Michigan Brandon Mebane, 6-3, 306, California *Keilen Dykes, 6-3, 295, West Virginia Quinn Pitcock, 6-3, 295, Ohio State Marcus Thomas, 6-2, 290, Florida *Red Barnett, 6-4, 330, Texas A&M Jordan Hill, 6-1, 300, Arizona State Tank Tyler, 6-2, 305, North Carolina State Kareem Brown, 6-4, 310, Miami Kelly Talavou, 6-0, 320, Utah Jeremy Clark, 6-2, 305, Alabama Brent Curvey, 6-0, 305, Iowa State Keith Jackson, 6-0, 300, Arkansas (XK) Marquay Love, 6-0, 320, Houston Kelly Talvou, 6-2, 310, Utah Ken Scott, 6-2, 325, Texas Tech Howie Fuimaono, 6-0, 335, UNLV Jay Alford, 6-3, 290, Penn State
tvooz is offline   Reply With Quote

Old 11-02-2006   #2
tvooz
Senior Member
 
Joined:
Jan 2005
Location:
Tucson
Posts:
156
Default

Justin Harrell, 6-3, 305, Tennessee (XAr)
*Frank Okam, 6-4, 320, Texas
*Alan Branch, 6-5, 325, Michigan
Brandon Mebane, 6-3, 306, California
*Keilen Dykes, 6-3, 295, West Virginia
Quinn Pitcock, 6-3, 295, Ohio State
Marcus Thomas, 6-2, 290, Florida
*Red Barnett, 6-4, 330, Texas A&M
Jordan Hill, 6-1, 300, Arizona State
Tank Tyler, 6-2, 305, North Carolina State
Kareem Brown, 6-4, 310, Miami
Kelly Talavou, 6-0, 320, Utah
Jeremy Clark, 6-2, 305, Alabama
Brent Curvey, 6-0, 305, Iowa State
Keith Jackson, 6-0, 300, Arkansas (XK)
Marquay Love, 6-0, 320, Houston
Kelly Talvou, 6-2, 310, Utah
Ken Scott, 6-2, 325, Texas Tech
Howie Fuimaono, 6-0, 335, UNLV
Jay Alford, 6-3, 290, Penn State
tvooz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-02-2006   #3
InmanRoshi
Zone Scribe
 
Joined:
Apr 2004
Posts:
18,239
Default

I'm usually not one to buy into Longhorn hype, but Frank Okam is the real deal when it comes to clogging the interior line. He's not a pass rusher, but he's a manchild when it comes to controlling the line of scrimmage. Ken Scott from Texas Tech is pretty good too ... not a lot of physical talent, but he's relentless, all day, high motor guy. Kind of a Chad Eaton type without the trash talking.

Last edited by InmanRoshi : 11-02-2006 at 12:02 PM.
InmanRoshi is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 11-02-2006   #4
TwoSteppinJJ
Senior Member
 
TwoSteppinJJ's Avatar
 
Joined:
Dec 2005
Posts:
1,167
Default

Frank Okam, UT
Alan Branch, Michigan

Conrad Bolston, Maryland
Antonio Johnson, Mississippi St.

Those are the guys I like that can play the 3-4. Top two are day one picks and the bottom two are day two picks.


I'm just another sheep in the pack, but I bite like a goat!
TwoSteppinJJ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-02-2006   #5
alancdc
Senior Member
 
Joined:
Mar 2005
Location:
Charlotte
Posts:
3,291
Default

As a State fan I have been very impressed with Tank Tyler. Can't imagine as an NC State fan why they lost so many games last year with Williams and Lawson on the end, and McCargo and Tyler up the middle. Also, Hoyte and Tullock at LB. Sorry about that state rant, but do like Tyler.
alancdc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-02-2006   #6
peplaw06
That Guy
 
peplaw06's Avatar
Years Donated
2007, 2011
 
Joined:
Aug 2005
Posts:
13,219
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by alancdc View Post
As a State fan I have been very impressed with Tank Tyler. Can't imagine as an NC State fan why they lost so many games last year with Williams and Lawson on the end, and McCargo and Tyler up the middle. Also, Hoyte and Tullock at LB. Sorry about that state rant, but do like Tyler.
I assumed Tyler was going to be a good prospect because of the Defensive players the Pack has put out the past couple of years. That said, I've never seen him play. Or very many of the rest of the guys.

Isn't the typical size BP has in mind for NT somewhere around 6-0 to 6-2, and 300-310 pounds...? A lot of guys on that list fit that bill including Tyler, but Okam and Branch may be too big...??
peplaw06 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-02-2006   #7
burmafrd
Senior Member
Years Donated
2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013
 
Joined:
May 2005
Location:
WHITE SANDS NM
Posts:
38,175
Default

I want a guy that will not only clog the middle but able to push the pile and force penetration up the middle on pass plays. Prevent the QB from being able to step up. Have to admit my guy would be about 6'0 and around 320-330; in other words a guy that virtually no center could handle by himself. And that would fully tie up the center and one guard on virtually every play.
burmafrd is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-02-2006   #8
joseephuss
Senior Member
 
joseephuss's Avatar
 
Joined:
Apr 2004
Location:
Austin, TX
Posts:
17,945
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by peplaw06 View Post
I assumed Tyler was going to be a good prospect because of the Defensive players the Pack has put out the past couple of years. That said, I've never seen him play. Or very many of the rest of the guys.

Isn't the typical size BP has in mind for NT somewhere around 6-0 to 6-2, and 300-310 pounds...? A lot of guys on that list fit that bill including Tyler, but Okam and Branch may be too big...??
Fergie is 6'-3", so I don't think 1 or 2 inches will make that much of a difference. Plus once the combine comes around, these guys may shrink that much.
joseephuss is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-02-2006   #9
ghst187
Senior Member
 
ghst187's Avatar
 
Joined:
May 2004
Location:
Right behind you
Posts:
5,089
Default

hard not to like the Mich and Texas kids, esp the Mich kid when he's playing on the best D in the country.
Of course, it might be easier to wait out Fergi and go sign a FA there. I really hated to see Pepper Johnson walk.
Wonder if Spears could play there....esp given the way Ratliff and Coleman have been playing on the end.
Still left to accomplish:
sign OT Winston or G Moore
ghst187 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-02-2006   #10
CrazyCowboy
Senior Member
 
CrazyCowboy's Avatar
 
Joined:
Mar 2005
Location:
Schertz, TX
Posts:
32,066
Default

Justin Harrell, 6-3, 305, Tennessee is a player who shows alot of ability!


Mr. Jones and CrazyCowboy--Training Camp 2004
CrazyCowboy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-02-2006   #11
kartr
Senior Member
 
Joined:
Mar 2005
Posts:
3,039
Default

Alan Branch and Jay Alford. Both can take on double teams successfully, but Alford is the better pass rusher, which we desperately need.
kartr is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-02-2006   #12
JeffInDC
Senior Member
 
Joined:
Apr 2004
Posts:
877
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by peplaw06 View Post
I assumed Tyler was going to be a good prospect because of the Defensive players the Pack has put out the past couple of years. That said, I've never seen him play. Or very many of the rest of the guys.

Isn't the typical size BP has in mind for NT somewhere around 6-0 to 6-2, and 300-310 pounds...? A lot of guys on that list fit that bill including Tyler, but Okam and Branch may be too big...??

I'm of the belief that Parcells doesn't care if the guy is 6' or 6'5", 305 or 350. What I sense is that he wants ALL OF HIS PLAYERS at a weight in which they perform their best. I believe that if Ferguson was able to play a full 16 game schedule, at full strength for 45 plays a game, @ 330pounds, Parcells would let him. The fact is that Bill believes that Fergy wears down to fast at that weight. If Shaun Rogers was on this team at his current listed weight (345) and playing at a Pro Bowl level, Parcells wouldn't mind.
JeffInDC is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 11-02-2006   #13
peplaw06
That Guy
 
peplaw06's Avatar
Years Donated
2007, 2011
 
Joined:
Aug 2005
Posts:
13,219
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by kartr View Post
Alan Branch and Jay Alford. Both can take on double teams successfully, but Alford is the better pass rusher, which we desperately need.
IDK... pass rushing just isn't that much of a concern with a 2 gap NT.
peplaw06 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-02-2006   #14
burmafrd
Senior Member
Years Donated
2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013
 
Joined:
May 2005
Location:
WHITE SANDS NM
Posts:
38,175
Default

We need all the pass rush we can get no matter where it comes from.
burmafrd is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-02-2006   #15
Future
Intramural Legend
 
Future's Avatar
Years Donated
2007
 
Joined:
Mar 2005
Location:
Canandaigua, NY
Posts:
12,821
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by peplaw06 View Post
Isn't the typical size BP has in mind for NT somewhere around 6-0 to 6-2, and 300-310 pounds...? A lot of guys on that list fit that bill including Tyler, but Okam and Branch may be too big...??
I say the bigger the better. If we can get a guy weighing about 330 I think thats great. Remember he will be rotating so I would not expect them to wear down too badly during the course of the season.
Future is offline   Reply With Quote

Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:29 AM.


Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright ©2000 - 2013, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
© 2004-2012 CowboysZone.com