Jarrett dropping...

[03EBZ06]

I've always thought Michigan DBs were pretty fast but I guess not since slow Jarrett out ran their DBs (4) on one of his TD run during Rose Bowl.

As an avid USC fan, I've followed USC for a very long time and Jarrett is a great WR. Yes, he does not possess a blazing speed but his precise route running enables him to separate from his defenders and he has set of sure hands, he has made some amazing catches along the way of PAC-10 record setting performance. I'd take him in a heartbeat but I just don't see him falling down to #22.

[da_whiz_kid]

Originally Posted by Manster54

I think we have young talent to develop already on the roster in Hurd & Austin. Plus we have Crayton. At 22, I think the 'Boys should just take the best player available on OL.

Jarrett will be > Hurd IMO
Jarrett will be > Austin IMO
Jarrett will be > crayton IMO.....

if jarrett is there at 22 Dallas should take him....with that being said hurd, austin, and crayton are good young talents but i don't think we should put all our chips on them...

I also think if steve smith is there for us in the third and we haven't picked a WR yet than we should get him, thats only if Paul Williams is gone by then, otherwise I want Williams...

[LatinMind]

Originally Posted by btcutter

In college but can he do it in the pros? Mike Williams did that in college too....

this statement is really mind-scratching. because the same could be said about every draft pick.
why is it just being said for jarret? usc haters

[Chuck 54]

I read on NFL.com that jarrett and Gin weren't running due to injuries...they listed guys who were hurt and guys who just chose not to run.

I saw enough of Jarrett to know that 4.7 is wrong, unless, like Bolden, he simply has absolutely no track skills at all. He ran by CB's and was seldom caught from behind....so I put no stock in that # or report. I'd love to have him....Gin, Jr. I'm not really interested in because he's fast but totally not prepared for the NFL.

[LatinMind]

Originally Posted by wayne_motley

I read on NFL.com that jarrett and Gin weren't running due to injuries...they listed guys who were hurt and guys who just chose not to run.

I saw enough of Jarrett to know that 4.7 is wrong, unless, like Bolden, he simply has absolutely no track skills at all. He ran by CB's and was seldom caught from behind....so I put no stock in that # or report. I'd love to have him....Gin, Jr. I'm not really interested in because he's fast but totally not prepared for the NFL.

i dont know about prepared. u get prepared in training camp. my issue with him is size. i dont think he could take the hits given in the nfc east

[dbair1967]

Originally Posted by btcutter

In college but can he do it in the pros? Mike Williams did that in college too....

and Williams was a knucklehead with an extremely poor work ethic..he also got out of shape

Jarrett isnt like Williams in those regards

David

[Manster54]

As much as I hate to say it, I think the Eagles have got it right. In the early rounds, they draft linemen and more linemen. If you can protect and apply pressure, you win. We need OL in a badm way and even if Jarret was there at 22, I would take the best OL available. I think Hurd is going to make some noise this year.

[jobberone]

Sidney Rice is not fast, not polished but does use his strengths well for his age and experience. He should probably have stayed this year at Carolina.

However, I'm not predicting how well or poorly he will do. He may become a very good WR. But we don't need to spend a #1 on a WR IMO. Not with Glenn and TO on the team.

[dbair1967]

Originally Posted by 03EBZ06

I've always thought Michigan DBs were pretty fast but I guess not since slow Jarrett out ran their DBs (4) on one of his TD run during Rose Bowl.

As an avid USC fan, I've followed USC for a very long time and Jarrett is a great WR. Yes, he does not possess a blazing speed but his precise route running enables him to separate from his defenders and he has set of sure hands, he has made some amazing catches along the way of PAC-10 record setting performance. I'd take him in a heartbeat but I just don't see him falling down to #22.

I agree, I think Jarrett is gonna be a pretty good NFL WR...the kind of guy that will put up 75-85 catches and 1200 yds a yr

David

[dbair1967]

Originally Posted by jobberone

Sidney Rice is not fast, not polished but does use his strengths well for his age and experience. He should probably have stayed this year at Carolina.

However, I'm not predicting how well or poorly he will do. He may become a very good WR. But we don't need to spend a #1 on a WR IMO. Not with Glenn and TO on the team.

have you watched him at all?

he's pretty good, I see him all the time in SEC country...there's a reason Spurrier was extremely disappointed this guy didnt come back

David

[Chuck 54]

Originally Posted by LatinMind

i dont know about prepared. u get prepared in training camp. my issue with him is size. i dont think he could take the hits given in the nfc east

Prepared....as in he hasn't been playing football that long and doesn't do much but run the deep route...that's what I read, not what I've seen. He was their big play guy, but not a go to receiver...that's why I'd prefer Jarrett.

As for all the guys who are so high on Hurd, Austin, and Crayton, I think they are homers for sure.

Crayton and Hurd may or may not someday be able to play as #2 and #3 receivers...but there are no guarantees....Crayton has good hands but has a hard time staying healthy and disappears when needed the most over the past couple of years....add that to Parcells claim that he has a hard time remembering or performing at a high level unless he's out there every day, and I don't see a guy who should be expected to be a starter. Hurd and Austin didn't get on the field enough to do much of anything besides special teams....it would be worth gambling if we were only watching 1 starter get long in the tooth, but with both most likely to start declining in the next couple of years, I would jump all over a guy like Jarrett who is young, who runs great routes, who got much more physical and DID beat press coverage the last half of the year and who makes the tough catches in traffic as well.

You land a guy like Jarrett and you have one of your starters for the next generation of Cowboys, be it #1 or #2.

Personally, I think Jarrett's game translates to what we're used to seeing from Irvin more than anyone I've seen coming out in a long time....runs good routes and gets YAC....to me that was Irvin when he was at the U....he was not the top WR in his class either....I know Sterling Sharp went first among WR's that year, and I'm thinking Irvin went 3rd, but I can't remember who the other WR was that year...I could be wrong.

[Manster54]

Crayton and Hurd may or may not someday be able to play as #2 and #3 receivers...but there are no guarantees....Crayton has good hands but has a hard time staying healthy and disappears when needed the most over the past couple of years....add that to Parcells claim that he has a hard time remembering or performing at a high level unless he's out there every day, and I don't see a guy who should be expected to be a starter. Hurd and Austin didn't get on the field enough to do much of anything besides special teams....it would be worth gambling if we were only watching 1 starter get long in the tooth, but with both most likely to start declining in the next couple of years, I would jump all over a guy like Jarrett who is young, who runs great routes, who got much more physical and DID beat press coverage the last half of the year and who makes the tough catches in traffic as well.

O.K. Valid point.

You land a guy like Jarrett and you have one of your starters for the next generation of Cowboys, be it #1 or #2.

Pretty big leap of faith, IMHO.

Personally, I think Jarrett's game translates to what we're used to seeing from Irvin more than anyone I've seen coming out in a long time....runs good routes and gets YAC....to me that was Irvin when he was at the U....he was not the top WR in his class either....I know Sterling Sharp went first among WR's that year, and I'm thinking Irvin went 3rd, but I can't remember who the other WR was that year...I could be wrong.[/quote]

I think Irvin was faster and was more of a deep ball threat right out of college.

[adamknite]

Originally Posted by Zman5

Anquan Boldin ran a 4.7 also. 40 yard time isn't everything.

and fell to the second round, wasn't even the first WR the Cardinals took. I'm not one of those guys that thinks 40 times are the best stat for a player, I'm saying coaches and scouts seem to think that a not quite as fast 40 time means they aren't worth anything, even though a month ago the player was considered to be a top 10 pick.

[speedkilz88]

Originally Posted by Manster54

Crayton and Hurd may or may not someday be able to play as #2 and #3 receivers...but there are no guarantees....Crayton has good hands but has a hard time staying healthy and disappears when needed the most over the past couple of years....add that to Parcells claim that he has a hard time remembering or performing at a high level unless he's out there every day, and I don't see a guy who should be expected to be a starter. Hurd and Austin didn't get on the field enough to do much of anything besides special teams....it would be worth gambling if we were only watching 1 starter get long in the tooth, but with both most likely to start declining in the next couple of years, I would jump all over a guy like Jarrett who is young, who runs great routes, who got much more physical and DID beat press coverage the last half of the year and who makes the tough catches in traffic as well.

O.K. Valid point.

[View Full Quote]You land a guy like Jarrett and you have one of your starters for the next generation of Cowboys, be it #1 or #2.

Pretty big leap of faith, IMHO.

Personally, I think Jarrett's game translates to what we're used to seeing from Irvin more than anyone I've seen coming out in a long time....runs good routes and gets YAC....to me that was Irvin when he was at the U....he was not the top WR in his class either....I know Sterling Sharp went first among WR's that year, and I'm thinking Irvin went 3rd, but I can't remember who the other WR was that year...I could be wrong.

I think Irvin was faster and was more of a deep ball threat right out of college.

I think it was Tim Brown that went first that year.

[Jake0]

As of right now I think I'd rather have Robert Meachem if he's still there. Why isn't he getting more attention after his combine results? All of his drills looked good and when he was interviewed you could tell he was a hard worker.

I think we should go WR in round 1 though, the sheer amount of talent in this year's draft at the position should make the 22nd pick have WR as the BPA and it will be a need very soon... if not this year with an injury or two.