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Old 05-06-2007   #76
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Having played OLB in a 3-4 the past 2 years, the adjustment period was made and he came on to end the season.
He only played OLB for a year. I may be mistaken, but Mike Nolan is entering his 3rd year, and he brought the 3-4 to san fran. And the adjustment isn't enough the throw someone off for more than half a season, his bad play is b/c he isn't that good, look at his career numbers.
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Old 05-06-2007   #77
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Well alrighty then!!! Can't wait for the 2007 season to get under way to see what your new coach can do and if Romo is the real deal or can he get over the Charlie brown punt hold? I will just let our playing this season do the talking for us. Thanks for dragging out a old post that has nothing to do with the topic at hand which is the redskins 2007 draft picks.
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Old 05-07-2007   #78
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I don't see why everyone is laughing so hard at the Skins getting Landry at the number 6 pick and making a boat load of changes to there secondary that gave up a tremendous amount of plays over 20 yards? You have a defense that was 31st and needs to be fixed at the D-line and secondary? So which one do you fix first? Can't do it all in one year the D-line will be addressed in the draft next year-Story over. The Cowboys could use a another stud at corner and other areas (same scenario.) Hard to fix it all in one year but with the trades for the picks next year should fill some empty slots not a bad move by Mr.Jones.
It is a Cowboys site. So short of showing them clips of 35-7, nothing will really "change" their minds

Step up your game a bit, its fun to do some verbal sparring, just expect to get a little bloodied around here, there are more of them and we are in their house

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Old 05-07-2007   #79
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You are right SkinsHokiefan. Should expect to come to the there house and get nothing but a hard time. Sorry but I usually keep my posts short and to the point. My opinion is still that the coaches choose the secondary to repair this year and the D-line will come next year. I guess the boy fans would love for Romo to have a depleted secondary to eat up. Even if we did draft a pass rushing DE this year damn there is something called doubling and blocking the pass rusher. Still lets get the 2007 season rolling so we can get the rivalry going again!!
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You are right SkinsHokiefan. Should expect to come to the there house and get nothing but a hard time. Sorry but I usually keep my posts short and to the point. My opinion is still that the coaches choose the secondary to repair this year and the D-line will come next year. I guess the boy fans would love for Romo to have a depleted secondary to eat up. Even if we did draft a pass rushing DE this year damn there is something called doubling and blocking the pass rusher. Still lets get the 2007 season rolling so we can get the rivalry going again!!
There are Skins fans, Eagles fans, Giants fans, and several other teams who come here and are respected. It's all about how much respect you give as to how much you get. Come in with your dander up and guns blazing, expect to get out-dueled. It's as simple as that.
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There are Skins fans, Eagles fans, Giants fans, and several other teams who come here and are respected. It's all about how much respect you give as to how much you get. Come in with your dander up and guns blazing, expect to get out-dueled. It's as simple as that.

You can still be respected. But its not as if you are suddenly going to think anything positive of the Redskins because of posts I put on here

I don't expect that at all. I expect a good debate when I come here, but I also expect to have a difficult time getting you folks to see things my way
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You can still be respected. But its not as if you are suddenly going to think anything positive of the Redskins because of posts I put on here

I don't expect that at all. I expect a good debate when I come here, but I also expect to have a difficult time getting you folks to see things my way
I actually respect every team and all the players. That doesn't mean I root for them though. My way of showing respect is that I don't go on other team's websites and act like a jerk. I don't respect that done here by other teams fans and I don't respect my fellow fans doing it. It isn't all that difficult really.
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I actually respect every team and all the players. That doesn't mean I root for them though. My way of showing respect is that I don't go on other team's websites and act like a jerk. I don't respect that done here by other teams fans and I don't respect my fellow fans doing it. It isn't all that difficult really.
That's cool with me.
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That's cool with me.
Good, then post more okay?
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They should have traded down a way, adding a later first day pick, then gone after the best pass rusher available, IMO...
Last time I checked, it takes two teams to complete a trade. Clearly, no one wanted to trade up that high for Quinn or anyone else.

Others might argue that improving the secondary would give the the line more time to reach the QB. Or, like in 04 when the defense was a strength, allow Williams to send CBs and LBs in blitz schemes.
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Last time I checked, it takes two teams to complete a trade. Clearly, no one wanted to trade up that high for Quinn or anyone else.

Others might argue that improving the secondary would give the the line more time to reach the QB. Or, like in 04 when the defense was a strength, allow Williams to send CBs and LBs in blitz schemes.
that's a valid argument, but it's more effective if you're applying pressure, so to give the secondary less time to screw up
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Personally, I think Landry was the right choice. The kid can play. They wanted to get the best player available. I think the Skins got the best bang for their buck, and he's as close to a can't miss candidate (none of them are locks) that you can ask for at #6.

Of course, that doesn't mean drafting a star running back when you already have Portis and Betts on the roster, drafting another QB when you already have a lot of time and money invested in Campbell or reaching for a project defensive end is a very smart idea; it's very risky - we're talking a lot of money - yeah, I know when have the Skins ever been wise with their money?

Last year, I think there was a lot more problems on the Skins defense than meets the eye. These media experts take one look at the Skins sack and interception totals and automatically assume that the defensive line was the biggest problem on the defense - they're wrong.

In Gregg WIlliams first year here in DC, the media here HOUNDED HIM, "Gregg what are you going to do with that godawful dline" "Gregg you can't compete in this league with those guys".

If you look at Williams defense during his tenure while he's been in DC, the defensive line has -- from a pass rushing standpoint -- always been the achilles heel of the defense. They've never really had any "stars" on the line - though, some might argue that Daniels and Carter are paid like they are. Yet his defenses produced at at least a top ten level in his first two years.

The biggest problems on the defense last year resided in the secondary.

Springs and Prioleau couldn't stay healthy, while Carlos Rogers was exploited; not to mention the whole mystery revolving around Adam Archuletta and his benching; apparently, he can't cover - I know, the rest of the league already knew this, but it was news to the Skins

What most people seem to forget is that, In the first two years of the Gregg Williams project, the group was solid against the run. Even last year, the line seemed to hold up against the run until later in the games - you know, after Wright and Rumph and ol' Carlos had been torched all afternoon.

He's been able to hide this weakness through blitzing linebackers corners and safeties in the past; when they tried to do that last year, their secondary was absolutely torn apart.

History shows that Gregg Williams defenses can compete at a top level in this league, and I have no reason to believe that the Skins defense will fall completely off the face of the planet, like they did last year, if the secondary can remain healthy and Landry can make an impact.

As far as the rest of the draft, the Skins traded away too many picks to get a good grade.

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