Are The Cowboys Super Bowl Contenders?

[superpunk]

Originally Posted by firehawk350

No, I'm accounting for Witten's one extra season

In which he started 7 games.

Which you threw a fit about earlier.

And still...you address no points.

I award you no points, Witten is better, you can't produce any ranking system that refutes that besides "firehawk's homer system" and may god have mercy on your soul.

You've been getting rocked up one side and down the other in this thread. Time to go be with the other homers and lick your wounds.

[Rampage]

Originally Posted by firehawk350

yeah, all-world kyle kosier huh?

6-10

[peplaw06]

Originally Posted by peplaw06

See this is where you're wrong. Nobody schemes to take a 3rd option completely out of a game... just as no one schemes to take a 5th option out. They scheme to take out the main option, and maybe a second. Then they dare you to beat them with your 3rd-5th options.

I still don't see how it's "harder" to gain yards or TDs as a 3rd option as opposed to a 5th.

Originally Posted by firehawk350

So your saying that no one accounts for Cooley, just like no one accounts for Witten? Right...

Reading comprehension not too high on you Redskins' fans priority list huh?

[Bob Sacamano]

Originally Posted by firehawk350

Really? So Steve Smith wasn't the number one receiver in 05? He's the number one TARGET. Different.

you're so dumb, it's not even funny

leading receiver is used to describe who has the most receptions, here's an example...

With his 5-yard reception in the second quarter against the Colts - the 535th reception of his career - Troy Brown became the Patriots' all-time leading receiver, passing Stanley Morgan's mark of 534 receptions

[stasheroo]

Originally Posted by firehawk350

yeah, all-world kyle kosier huh?

At least he wasn't a leftover who got cut from the Texans!

The offensive line challenged Texans cut that bum!

[firehawk350]

Originally Posted by DallasEast

How can a glorified H-Back get more props than a bonafide Pro Bowl tight end?

When he has two better seasons in a row. Oh yeah, those seasons are the only ones that he was the starting h-back or TE (as he was in 06)

[firehawk350]

Originally Posted by superpunk

In which he started 7 games.

Which you threw a fit about earlier.

And still...you address no points.

I award you no points, Witten is better, you can't produce any ranking system that refutes that besides "firehawk's homer system" and may god have mercy on your soul.

You've been getting rocked up one side and down the other in this thread. Time to go be with the other homers and lick your wounds.

Yeah, any ranking system??? How about the one I've been expounding. You know, looking at all the statistics?

[Bob Sacamano]

Originally Posted by firehawk350

Yeah, but in order to compare two players, you can do one of two things. Project out to the younger player to make up for the time he wasn't playing OR you can compare the seasons that they both played. Which do you want it to be?

last 2 years

Witten-756
Cooley-754

let's compare career seasons shall we? which WItten's was btw, his 1st year as a 16 game starter, his 2nd year

[stasheroo]

Originally Posted by firehawk350

When he has two better seasons in a row. Oh yeah, those seasons are the only ones that he was the starting h-back or TE (as he was in 06)

What magical 'criteria' somehow give Cooley two better seasons in a row?

Put up or shut up already.

[firehawk350]

Originally Posted by stasheroo

At least he wasn't a leftover who got cut from the Texans!

The offensive line challenged Texans cut that bum!

Oh yeah, I forgot, the Texans are the kings of personnel decisions. Wait, wasn't Davis from the OL challenged Cards?

[skinsngibbs4life]

this is still going on?!?!

[Hostile]

Originally Posted by firehawk350

Really? Whos better on the skins then? And I mean not obviously better like Portis. Who edges out a Cowboy's player by a thin margin that you don't mind admitting???

I had a feeling you were insecure enough not to believe me. This is starters only.

LT...Samuels over Adams
RT...Jansen over Columbo
RG...Thomas over Davis
RB...Portis over Jones

I'd flip a coin between Rabach and Gurode at Center.

FS...Taylor over Hamlin
RCB...Smoot over Henry

It's hard for me to even compare the front 7 given 3-4 vs. 4-3, but I'd take Marcus Washington on any football team and London Fletcher too. I think your front 4 is a mess, hence why I wouldn't trade the #6 pick for Briggs and #31.

I think you have some young players on the bench that are good too. Though I dislike your team I am not blind to talent or potential. I am brutally honest, even when it chaps Cowboys fans butts.

Welcome to the chapped butt club.

[superpunk]

Originally Posted by firehawk350

Yeah, any ranking system??? How about the one I've been expounding. You know, looking at all the statistics?

That's firehawk's homer system. Where TDs are the end-all and Witten's best season is disregarded. Pure stats are not very in depth. I've provided you one. I've shown why Witten has better hands, is more of a downfield threat, whereas Cooley catches passes behind the LOS and stretches them due to blocking.

You've got TDs.

Go cheer on Cooley in your homer tent. We'll keep cheering the NFC's best TE.

[skinsngibbs4life]

Originally Posted by Bob Sacamano

IMO, there isn't much seperation between Witten and Cooley

I'd say it's about even, Cooley is better at getting in the endzone, and Witten is the more surer receiver, both are average blockers

maybe we should just leave it as this and you all can call it a day

[Bob Sacamano]

Originally Posted by firehawk350

When he has two better seasons in a row. Oh yeah, those seasons are the only ones that he was the starting h-back or TE (as he was in 06)

you mean he had more TDs and 2 more 20 and 40+ yard receptions, despite lower yards, receptions, yards per catch and 1st downs? that's 2 lesser seasons