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Old 04-12-2007   #16
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How in the world could Santana Moss and Steve Smith last in the NFL at about 5-9 and 180-something pounds?
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How in the world could Santana Moss and Steve Smith last in the NFL at about 5-9 and 180-something pounds?
Good point. Let's consider that those guys are primarily receivers and are both good route runners. They also appear to be a bit beefier than Ginn. Maybe he gets a little bigger and maybe his routes improve, but like others, I see Ginn as a terrific punt returner rather than a #1 receiver.
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Kinda funny Mcshay has Ginn rated as #10 in his ESPN draft guide, so he sits out a few workouts while healing, and more importantly protecting his future, and all of a sudden he's ranked behind a center? Give me a break.

I agree whole heartedly with the Bush comparison. To call Ginn just a receiver, is like calling Bush just a RB. Both have durability questions, but you have to look outside the box and acknowledge the rare playmaking, game changing ability these guys have.
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Takes guts and a kamakazee abiltity to be a punt returner. He's taken some good head on hits, and isn't afraid to take it up the middle on returns, and I've never seen him shy away from the middle on pass routes, and I've seen him take sideline routes back to the middle into traffic.

To say the opposite is too much parroting and not enough watching.
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Takes guts and a kamakazee abiltity to be a punt returner. He's taken some good head on hits, and isn't afraid to take it up the middle on returns, and I've never seen him shy away from the middle on pass routes, and I've seen him take sideline routes back to the middle into traffic.

To say the opposite is too much parroting and not enough watching.
I'll be the first to say I'm wrong if he lives up to the hype. There's no doubting his courage and speed. I'm just worried about his durability. If we take him, I hope I'm wrong. I would dearly like us to have an explosive playmaker on this team.
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Good point. Let's consider that those guys are primarily receivers and are both good route runners. They also appear to be a bit beefier than Ginn. Maybe he gets a little bigger and maybe his routes improve, but like others, I see Ginn as a terrific punt returner rather than a #1 receiver.
Santana Moss @ 2001 Draft.....

2001 NFL Draft:

SANTANA MOSS, Wide Receiver





School: University of Miami Hurricanes. Height: 5:09.5. Weight: 181. Hometown: Miami, Florida http://www2.jsonline.com/packer/rev/...antanamoss.asp An inch shorter and 3 lbs heavier than Ginn.
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5' 9", 185 pounds
Drafted in 2001 - (Pick 74 overall)

Over an inch shorter and 7 pounds heavier than Ginn

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If Ginn indeed looks leaner, it's because he's taller. His durability has never been a question in 3 years at OSU. I'd be more concerned with Adrian Peterson's durability given his past.

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These 40 times are getting blown out of proportion! Give me a guy who comes to play on game day!
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How in the world could Santana Moss and Steve Smith last in the NFL at about 5-9 and 180-something pounds?
Or Marvin Harrison.
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Santana Moss @ 2001 Draft.....

2001 NFL Draft:

SANTANA MOSS, Wide Receiver





School: University of Miami Hurricanes. Height: 5:09.5. Weight: 181. Hometown: Miami, Florida http://www2.jsonline.com/packer/rev/...antanamoss.asp An inch shorter and 3 lbs heavier than Ginn.
Steve Smith





5' 9", 185 pounds
Drafted in 2001 - (Pick 74 overall)

Over an inch shorter and 7 pounds heavier than Ginn

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And both of those receivers had the benefit of weight training in the NFL.

I betcha Ted Ginn reaches 190 before the season is over. And because he has a lean frame, he won't lose much speed if he does at all.

Draft him.
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MOre and more I am leaning towards GInn- but I think he will be gone before our pick. Hester really woke a lot of teams up as regards the return game.
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Pick Ginn.

He's a Great player.

WR...KR...PR.

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It has been 3 freaking months since Ginn hurt his foot and it is still jacked up to the point that halfway through his workout he is favoring it?

Talk about a slow healer, I think I will pass on Ginn.

Meechum is better imo.
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