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ConcordCowboy · 09-08-2007

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Originally Posted by peplaw06

I thought it was called "the war on terror," not the "Searching for Osama War." What kind of threat is Osama when he's hiding in a cave in Pakistan?

Oh give me a break...He just released a tape and people including the White House were scurrying around to see if there was any meaning to his message as in was he calling for more attacks.

This man has obviously many fanatical followers...all bin-Laden has to do is just give them the word.

He's still a dangerous man....maybe not himself physically...but he does command many people who will do his work for him...as we saw with 9/11.

ConcordCowboy · 09-08-2007

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Originally Posted by iceberg

and i'm not saying going after osama with more force would be "bad" or "unwelcome" or anything of the sort.

i'm just saying it's a war on terror, not a war on osama.

I agree...that's just what I mean.

I'm not saying lets forget the rest of the terrorists...lets just make Bin-Laden a Major priority...which it definitely seems he's not anymore.

ConcordCowboy · 09-08-2007

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Originally Posted by vta

But conversely, would killing Rumsfeld have sent American troops packing?
The war is bigger than one man and killing Osama would not even put a dent in the overall effort.

It would serve as gratification, but the same struggle would continue. It's better to try to squash the overall movement than to focus on one man.

Terrorism was there before Bin-Laden and will be there after Bin-Laden...Heck no matter what the U.S. does it will always be there...way after you and I are gone.

We can fight terrorism and make Bin-Laden a major priority..which as I said to Ice...it doesn't seem like he is anymore.

vta · 09-08-2007

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Originally Posted by ConcordCowboy

Terrorism was there before Bin-Laden and will be there after Bin-Laden...Heck no matter what the U.S. does it will always be there...way after you and I are gone.

We can fight terrorism and make Bin-Laden a major priority..which as I said to Ice...it doesn't seem like he is anymore.

The first paragraph is pretty much my assertion, and I agree.

I'm sure he's not top priority, like you said, but I'm not sure of focusing on one figure won't make us lose the overall picture. I don't think accepting that terrorism will always be there should do just that. I'd rather see the overall threat minimized, and his war ideals crushed.

Nothing would spell defeat to people like him, like America living as it always has; without a boogieman to interject his tripe onto our news programs, except but to offer us a glimpse of lost fool.

notherbob · 09-08-2007

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Originally Posted by ConcordCowboy

Terrorism was there before Bin-Laden and will be there after Bin-Laden...Heck no matter what the U.S. does it will always be there...way after you and I are gone.

We can fight terrorism and make Bin-Laden a major priority..which as I said to Ice...it doesn't seem like he is anymore.

Bin Ladin doesn't have any oil.

BigDFan5 · 09-08-2007

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Originally Posted by PosterChild

Wowsers. Sounds like Binny has the Democratic talking points. Amazing.

I was thinking the same thing, we now know for sure UBL is a democrat

iceberg · 09-09-2007

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Originally Posted by notherbob

Bin Ladin doesn't have any oil.

we've spent how many years in iraq w/o getting oil back?

yes having the natural resources can make you a bigger target, but to date have we gotten a barrell of oil for free yet?

Rocky · 09-09-2007

All Refrences To Current Events Are Made During Video Freeze

Osama Bin Laden's widely publicized video address to the American people has a peculiarity that casts serious doubt on its authenticity: the video freezes at about 1 minute and 36 seconds, and motion only resumes again at 12:30. The video then freezes again at 14:02 remains frozen until the end. All references to current events, such as the 62nd anniversary of the U.S. atomic bombing of Japan, and Sarkozy and Brown being the leaders of France and the UK, respectively, occur when the video is frozen! The words spoken when the video is in motion contain no references to contemporary events and could have been (and likely were) made before the U.S. invasion of Iraq.

The audio track does appear to be in the voice of a single speaker. What I suspect was done is that an older, unreleased video was dubbed over for this release, with the video frozen when the audio track departed from that of the original video.

http://www.boomantribune.com/story/2007/9/9/61032/95401

I thought something smelled funny here but couldn't put my finger on it. We need to get our butts into Pakistan and blow him up real good.

peplaw06 · 09-09-2007

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Originally Posted by ConcordCowboy

Oh give me a break...He just released a tape and people including the White House were scurrying around to see if there was any meaning to his message as in was he calling for more attacks.

This man has obviously many fanatical followers...all bin-Laden has to do is just give them the word.

He's still a dangerous man....maybe not himself physically...but he does command many people who will do his work for him...as we saw with 9/11.

Pray tell, what exactly has he done, or planned, since 9/11?

ConcordCowboy · 09-09-2007

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Originally Posted by peplaw06

Pray tell, what exactly has he done, or planned, since 9/11?

You do know that it took many years to plan and carry out 9/11 don't you?

It was over 10 years from the time that Bin-Laden got mad at us for being in Saudi Arabia for the First Gulf War until the 9/11 plan was carried out.

As a matter of fact I'm watching a TV show right now about the 9/11 commission Report on the History Channel told by the actual 9/11 commission members...it's fascinating to hear the intricate details that went into the attack.

Who knows what he's planning. But if he is alive I don't think there's any doubt in anyones mind (certainly not at the White House) except maybe you that he will plan something else and get someone to carry out that plan.

Also you do know that Bin-Laden planned 9/11 in the most remotest (9/11 commissions words not mine) parts of Afghanistan don't you?

And as you'll see from my other thread...Al Qaeda is on it's way back.

Bin Laden tape reveals a reinvigorated al-Qaeda

Network’s leadership has rebuilt, with fresh faces and a savvy media arm

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20665671/

peplaw06 · 09-09-2007

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Originally Posted by ConcordCowboy

You do know that it took many years to plan and carry out 9/11 don't you?

It was over 10 years from the time that Bin-Laden got mad at us for being in Saudi Arabia for the First Gulf War until the 9/11 plan was carried out.

As a matter of fact I'm watching a TV show right now about the 9/11 commission Report on the History Channel told by the actual 9/11 commission members...it's fascinating to hear the intricate details that went into the attack.

Who knows what he's planning. But if he is alive I don't think there's any doubt in anyones mind (certainly not at the White House) except maybe you that he will plan something else and get someone to carry out that plan.

Also you do know that Bin-Laden planned 9/11 in the most remotest (9/11 commissions words not mine) parts of Afghanistan don't you?

And as you'll see from my other thread...Al Qaeda is on it's way back.

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I read your other article. If that's the case, then what will getting Bin Ladin do? Sounds like al-Qaeda is "built to survive."

You've got such tunnel vision re: getting UBL. He's not the only terrorist out there. We shouldn't donate all of our resources to getting him if it means hindering our ability to stop others.

ConcordCowboy · 09-09-2007

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Originally Posted by peplaw06

I read your other article. If that's the case, then what will getting Bin Ladin do? Sounds like al-Qaeda is "built to survive."

You've got such tunnel vision re: getting UBL. He's not the only terrorist out there. We shouldn't donate all of our resources to getting him if it means hindering our ability to stop others.

The man caused 9/11 and needs to be caught...Period.

If I need to argue that with you then you will never get it and I'm wasting my time...Which I really know I am already.

And you acting like just because nothing has happened since 9/11 therefore nothing will...even though we know it was more than 10 years from Gulf War to 9/11 or Bin-Laden is in remote Afghanistan therefore he can't plan anymore attacks...even though we know that that's where he was when he planned 9/11...is frickin ludicrous.

If Bush would have had the tunnel vision to go after Bin-Laden the man who caused 9/11 (like you say I do) like he had when he went after Saddam...You and I wouldn't be having this discussion now.

And the crap about you can go after Bin-Laden but can't go after other terrorists is BS.

burmafrd · 09-09-2007

Ben Laden really does not matter that much. Its the organization and its allies and offshoots that we need to go after. And hiding like he is it is doubtfull that he can really do all that much. They cannot use modern communications because we can home in on them fast-unlike before 9/11. so where they are he cannot have much contact. ANd many reports say that really AL Queeda probably does not do that much anymore; its the off shoots and others that have made most of the attacks on the West since 9/11. And I really doubt they spent 10 years on the 9/11 attack. More like maybe 2-3.
He was definitly behind the first Tower bombing, and the attacks in Saudi. WHich your buddies in the clinton administration pretty much ignored.

**BrAinPaiNt** · 09-09-2007

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Originally Posted by peplaw06

Pray tell, what exactly has he done, or planned, since 9/11?

I'll take Who gave this administration the excuse to pull the wool over many peoples eyes and send us into an Iraqi quagmire for a thousand alex.

**BrAinPaiNt** · 09-09-2007

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Originally Posted by burmafrd

Ben Laden really does not matter that much. Its the organization and its allies and offshoots that we need to go after. And hiding like he is it is doubtfull that he can really do all that much. They cannot use modern communications because we can home in on them fast-unlike before 9/11. so where they are he cannot have much contact. ANd many reports say that really AL Queeda probably does not do that much anymore; its the off shoots and others that have made most of the attacks on the West since 9/11. And I really doubt they spent 10 years on the 9/11 attack. More like maybe 2-3.
He was definitly behind the first Tower bombing, and the attacks in Saudi. WHich your buddies in the clinton administration pretty much ignored.

Nice to know that the one responsible for the largest terrorist attack on US Soil is not a priority and we just don't seem to care about him now...no wait Bush did not care about him or see him as a priority less than a year after the attacks.